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narutofan85
03-17-2007, 06:02 PM
This is the official Naruto vs. Sasuke thread.

Location: Valley of the End.
Mindset: In-character. (However, both are fighting to kill)
Abilities: As last seen in the manga. Everything goes. Sage Mode, Mangekyou Sharingan, Kyuubi cloak etc.

Since these two happen to be the most documented and frequently growing characters, feel free to debate from manga to manga and several scenarios in the two characters' current condition.



(Sorry for taking your post Narutofan)

Sasuke Uchiha #1 Fan
09-09-2007, 04:54 PM
Sasuke can out speed naruto(notice not the ninetail which has nothing to do with Naruto) but when Naruto goes nine tail Sasuke can keep up with his speed by relying on his cursed seal and unlike Naruto he has never lost his temper during his cursed seal stage NEVER!! and can still think strait. The only reason Sasuke doesn't fight for his freind is bacause he needs to do something first and that is to kill his bro. who has Sasuke fill with hate and who wouldn't, Itachi murder Sasuke parents(his) in front of his bare eyes which is the hardest think you can see, Naruto past doesn't compare to Sasuke past there's a big different Sasuke fight to return some dignity to himself and restore his clan and Naruto fight only to receive respect and be acknowledge by his people you clearly see some big different, it's said over and over again in the show that Sasuke and Naruto path are simaler yet they don't walk together the same walkside for the certain reason i stated. Let first start with just one of many way how sasuke can fight the kyubi- Sasuke does has the capacity to actually prevent naruto go to demon, by guess what by strategy again but not presicely by chidori but by sasuke sharingan and curesed seal both at the same time, when he needs to reduce the nine tail chakra he can compress his chakra and when the nine tail brings it back again(which he is vow to do but at least will give Sasuke more time) Sasuke can fight it with the cursed seal keeping up to the demon speed and power by doging it most of them and preventing serious injuries by combining those to stuff Sasuke can manage to keep the nine tail with the fight of his life. Now the that is settle let see how chidori can beat rasenga- you see it might be true that Rasenga can overpower Chidori but do notice this only when they collide among each other because the wind element has an advantage over lightning but what Chidori lacks in power it makes it up in strategy. I already said this before but in this topic specific you can't win by power alone both Chidori and whatever version of Rasenga can provide the same result wich is killing obviously one greater than the other but with the same result which it make no sence what so ever which one is stronger but as i said before Chidori wasn't build to overpower Rasenga but to outsmart it, Chidori gives the user more option than just relying on power alone the Chidori can be consume by the user all over his body as a defense mechanism it can also use its currents of lighning on a blade to enter the enemy wound and attack from the inside out hitting every vital organ inside of the enemy having the same result on the enemy that the Rasenga would it had too if attack with just a normal Rasenga attack, but i do agree if we keep this up no one would win unless some one has the guts to admit his wrong, I do think Rasenga can over power Chidori when collide only but Chidori can defenetly beat it by strategy and not relying on power alone Oh and IF NARUTO USES RASENGA OR ODAMARASENGA OR WIND ELEMENT SHURIKEN SASUKE CAN JUST TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT TO POWER HIS FIRE JUTSU EVEN MORE . This is another example of strategy if Naruto went close range to Sasuke with a Rasenga, Sasuke can use that moment to stab Naruto with his sword sure he might get hit but thanks to Chidori defensive mechanism he would come out on harm at least with no serious injuries now Sasuke can open up a wound to conduct Chidori's currents thru his sword to Naruto's vital organs, so you see knowing that Rasenga can disapher Chidori Naruto went and do the abvious thing. Sasuke can now use Chidori in a much effective way which is attacking from the inside out since naruto already made his move. The power of Rasenga doesn't rely on power but in strategy to beat anyone who thinks Rasenga is better. i know i jump out a lot of steps but that is what strategy is all about. The secret is STRATEGY to beat an user Rasenga with Chidori beacause chidori it allows you to strategies unlike rasenga.

Sproule
09-10-2007, 01:05 PM
Um well apart from the fact that this fight has kinda all ready happened i would
say Sasuke because he would be willing to kill Naruto were as Naruto wants to save Sasuke
but when it came down to it Naruto would turn Sasuke in to a frog

Doctor Octogonapus
09-10-2007, 06:35 PM
Naruto can't do that.
I say Sasuke cause he'll be willing to beat him at any odds.

Kakuzu
09-11-2007, 12:03 AM
Oh heck no, I am NOT reading that large clump of text unless you space it out.


And Sasuke destroys Naruto.

Sasuke Uchiha #1 Fan
09-11-2007, 01:31 AM
come on guys just read it even if you agree with me-LOL
i wrote a simple background from both chararacter(naruto and sasuke) and also discuss why chidori is better than rasengan or any other version of rasenga by comparing it to chidori nagashi. If you read and still not convince than discuss it with me

Xinobi
09-11-2007, 02:21 AM
Next time leave it simple. I am inclined to say Sasuke as well. Naruto is too much of a loose unruly cannon.

Doctor Octogonapus
09-12-2007, 04:41 PM
Also Rasengan is more powerful that Chidori.
Episode 107.
Sasuke's Chidori left his arm inside and intangled in the metal of one water tower.
Naruto's made the back explode.
Sasuke's is a standard A-Level Jutsu.
Naruto's is an S-Level jutsu that only The greatest Hokage, the greatest Sannin, and Kakashi knows.
Naruto's new rasengan made a gigantic freaking hole in the ground.

Sasuke Uchiha #1 Fan
09-14-2007, 01:25 AM
Also Rasengan is more powerful that Chidori.
Episode 107.
Sasuke's Chidori left his arm inside and intangled in the metal of one water tower.
Naruto's made the back explode.
Sasuke's is a standard A-Level Jutsu.
Naruto's is an S-Level jutsu that only The greatest Hokage, the greatest Sannin, and Kakashi knows.
Naruto's new rasengan made a gigantic freaking hole in the ground.

Are you serious i'm not even considering the prototype rasengan with no elemental wind add it cause it has been proven that chidori is better when they face up in the waterfall- sasuke's chidori beat naruto's prototype rasengan. Who care about that particular episode and you're badly mistaken Chidori is an S-rank jutsu. Stop avoiding my theories and how about answer one of them, what ever version of Rasengan they all provide the same damn! result which is killing his target the same thing chidori does when hit...so how does that make rasengan better? we all know chidori can become as deadly as any other rasengan by providing the same result which is killing it's target but unlike rasengan chidori allow you to strategice which is something sasuke can manipulate as second nature that why he developed the nagashi chidori- to actually strategice himself and and rely both on power and strategy to beat a resengan user(naruto) his option are not limited. I do agree that chidori burn a lot of chakra but that's nothing compare to what Wind Elemetal Shuriken effects cause on it's user- it takes life away from you thus breaking bones of your arm, leaving the user handicap as it been proven in the manga. My personal opinion is that odamarasengan is way better improvement than the elemental one with wind added as supposedly an improvement.

Peace guys! and don't take this as an offense i'm not try to hurt no one feelings

Doctor Octogonapus
09-14-2007, 01:37 AM
okay the reason no one responds to you is cause you type to much.
Rasengan is better.
Idc what you think about it.
It's better.
Chidori is stand in the Uchiha blood.
Rasengan is known by 3 of the greatest ninja ever....and Naruto.
Notice the effects also.
Sasuke's went right through Naruto.
Naruto's destroyed Kabuto's insides.
But didn't go through him cause Kabuto jumped back.

Sasuke Uchiha #1 Fan
09-14-2007, 01:53 AM
what you're doing right now is relying your fact other wise known as personal opinion you're, acknowledging their strenght base on the characters who conduct them through history which if you ask me sound silly!

Xinobi
09-14-2007, 01:57 AM
what you're doing right now is relying your fact other wise known as personal opinion you're, acknowledging their strenght base on the characters who conduct them through history which if you ask me sound silly!

First of all break up your post please. Put one point into a paragraph and move on.

You could be good at debates but honestly when I see your post I move on to the next one. I am not saying this to be rude but I actually read the last two. I am just trying to help out. If you choose not to do it then it is no problem.

Sasuke Uchiha #1 Fan
09-14-2007, 01:59 AM
wouw are you feeling sad for me!
ohhh that so nice.... what a joke!

Xinobi
09-14-2007, 03:10 AM
Just trying to help. I wasn't being sarcastic or anything. Just genuinely trying to help. If you think nothing is wrong with the way you type then by all means please continue.

Chidori
09-17-2007, 02:34 AM
Lol.....I am seeing battling between the Chidori and Rasengan instead of Sasuke and Naruto.....

Anyway, Rasengan is stronger that the Chidori, especially the Oodama and the Rasenshuriken....Sasuke probably has some new improved forms of Chidori, but I doubt they can even match the power of the Oodama.....

BUT.....Sasuke owns Naruto atm...

Doctor Octogonapus
09-17-2007, 03:04 AM
Exactly what I said.

airlaflair
09-17-2007, 04:24 AM
Lol.....I am seeing battling between the Chidori and Rasengan instead of Sasuke and Naruto.....

Anyway, Rasengan is stronger that the Chidori, especially the Oodama and the Rasenshuriken....Sasuke probably has some new improved forms of Chidori, but I doubt they can even match the power of the Oodama.....

BUT.....Sasuke owns Naruto atm...
No need for me to post my thoughts because there right here

Zetsu
09-19-2007, 06:24 PM
At this point in the manga Sasuke has the advantage...

Minato
09-24-2007, 07:22 PM
Sasuke and Naruto
Sasuke Chidori vs Naruto rasengan That One Naruto will win
Sasuke Curse Seal Activated Chidori vs Naruto Rasengan Naruto Will Lose
Sasuke any Chidori Vs Naruto Fyuton Raseng Shuriken Naruto Wins
And Sasuke's Great Fire Ball vs Naruto Fyton Rasen Suriken Naruto Lose

Seriously Naruto need to learn a water style attack to get make it more intresting vs saskukes fire ball. So far Naruto Can has great timing in his kage bunshin so it ok with the fire ball. I say Both will End Up in a tie. Or else Naruto Wins cause He has the great " UNLIMITED CHAKRA MONSTER KYUBII ". Naruto cannot die by sasuke ( Im sure of it ).

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Summer.
09-24-2007, 07:32 PM
Seriously Naruto need to learn a water style attack



mhm, agree with this statement.
wind owns lightening. naruto already has that.
water owns fire. and that's the technique naruto needs to learn, cause than all of his elements will be more powerful than sasuke's.

Minato
09-26-2007, 02:33 PM
and if he learns that remeber how he can use the kage bunshin to help him in every way :D i say he make a new four element rasengan :P

Doctor Octogonapus
11-20-2007, 04:10 AM
All out! Bring your best.

Naruto's Taijutsu - Sharingan will see it, Naruto's speed isn't fast enough to get past the sharingan.

The Fox - Sasuke can surpress the Fox's Chakra and Naruto doesn't use the foxes chakra anymore.

Rasengan vs. Chidori - While Rasengan is stronger, it takes longer to form, and takes a lot of chakra, which Naruto could run out of eventually since he does not use the Fox's Chakra.

Fuuton Rasengan - Takes a very long time to form, and it takes even more chakra, it slows him down a lot. And it takes out his arm almost completely.

Sasuke is too fast for Naruto. Sasuke has Fire, Fire beats Wind.
I have many more points so bring it on.

squid14
11-20-2007, 01:02 PM
well Naruto can use Rasengan anytime but Sasuke can ise only two Chidori

Summer.
11-20-2007, 03:18 PM
ok, I would say:

sasuke is stronger. sasuke would beat naruto. -for now.
what I believe is that naruto will get amazingly strong when he will learn how to control kyuubi's chakra. cuz he can be better than sasuke even without it. his incredible stamina, enormous amount of chakra, stubbornness and his new, special training will get him much stronger than he is now. he can learns S-rank techniques in one week now, while others, very talented shinobis needs many years to learn them...

Doctor Octogonapus
11-20-2007, 04:34 PM
well Naruto can use Rasengan anytime but Sasuke can ise only two Chidori

no he can't.
Sasuke used the chidori 3 times and nothing bad happened.
And that was with Sasuke's old chakra supply, he can do Chidori like 6 or 7 times now I bet.
And Rasengan takes more chakra and more time to form.

squid14
11-20-2007, 05:44 PM
yeah but its take time to supply the chakra for Rasengan and Chidori

Doctor Octogonapus
11-20-2007, 10:00 PM
yeah but its take time to supply the chakra for Rasengan and Chidori

not much for Chidori, Sasuke did it in like a second.
Naruto took around 5.
That's a four second opening.

Incendiary
11-20-2007, 10:23 PM
Alright, here I go. Though I thought I have made myself clear on this before.
This is what I believe in:

1) Naruto will never “learn” to control the Kyuubi’s chakra. Even if he does, his lifespan will shorten dramatically and his body will damage.
2) Any kind of Rasengan is useless against a SHARINGAN. Sasuke can dodge it easily.
3) Sasuke’s main advantages: sharingan, lots of chakra in CS2 mode, ability to manipulate Chidori. Speed.
4) Sasuke’s disadvantage: limit to the amount of time in CS2, leading to loss of chakra. Less stamina than Naruto.
5) Naruto’s advantages: unpredictable techniques? I have faith that Naruto would come up with something if he had to.
6) Naruto’s disadvantages: More difficult versions of Rasengan require more chakra - limited chakra supply with no Kyuubi.
7) Fire “beating” air is so third-grade. If you think about it, wind is the one that puts out fire.

But anyhow, it’s Sasuke’s win.

Doctor Octogonapus
11-20-2007, 10:31 PM
7) Fire “beating” air is so third-grade. If you think about it, wind is the one that puts out fire.

I completely agree, and we use water and say the wind is making the fire spread just to f**k with their minds!

No wind does not beat fire, it makes it stronger, that's why you blow into a fire.
You don't throw water on it.
you reversed the table.

Incendiary
11-20-2007, 10:35 PM
Could you elaborate on that? I like totally didn't get what you are saying.

Doctor Octogonapus
11-20-2007, 10:38 PM
Could you elaborate on that? I like totally didn't get what you are saying.

Your 13 as well and you don't get it?
When you blow on a fire it doesn't go out, it spreads.
The fire in California, they said the wind was a major factor in what was keeping it alive.
Wind fuels fire.
You cut off the wind.
You cut off the fire.

Incendiary
11-20-2007, 10:52 PM
LOL, I wasn't talking about that. This was pretty vague (no idea why you were suddenly talking about water and what table):

You don't throw water on it.
you reversed the table.

Air/wind/whatever can either spread or destroy fire. That's all I am saying.

Doctor Octogonapus
11-20-2007, 11:11 PM
LOL, I wasn't talking about that. This was pretty vague (no idea why you were suddenly talking about water and what table):



Air/wind/whatever can either spread or destroy fire. That's all I am saying.


It can't destroy fire.
Unless it's a tornado!

Incendiary
11-20-2007, 11:17 PM
What if you blow on a candle?

Doctor Octogonapus
11-20-2007, 11:20 PM
What if you blow on a candle?

that flame is smaller than your finger nail.
That's not a large fireball.
You can't go up to a burning building and start blowing on it.
It dont work like that.

Incendiary
11-20-2007, 11:24 PM
Naruto is not rational. In case you haven't noticed, laws of physics don't really work there. Walk on water, anyone? So if a needle can float on water in real life - while in Naruto people FIGHT on it - why can't an immense blow of air redirect fire?

Doctor Octogonapus
11-21-2007, 12:02 AM
Naruto is not rational. In case you haven't noticed, laws of physics don't really work there. Walk on water, anyone? So if a needle can float on water in real life - while in Naruto people FIGHT on it - why can't an immense blow of air redirect fire?

It can.
But not a tiny one.
Naruto has just the rasengan.
No other air techniques.
So if Naruto were to use a rasengan for every fire technique Sauske used, Naruto would die from chakra loss.

Incendiary
11-21-2007, 01:44 AM
You're good. You should join a debate team. You're also good at deviating from the real point as to challenge the opposing side :-P

I agree, anyhow. Though I wasn't talking about the Rasengan when I mentioned fire/wind. But I hope Naruto develops an even more advanced form of it!

Doctor Octogonapus
11-21-2007, 05:52 PM
You're good. You should join a debate team. You're also good at deviating from the real point as to challenge the opposing side :-P

I agree, anyhow. Though I wasn't talking about the Rasengan when I mentioned fire/wind. But I hope Naruto develops an even more advanced form of it!

Thanks, your good too.
Although I don't do anything on organized teams, too much about winning for me.

Yeah me too, but right now all Naruto has in the wind area is Rasengan and Fuuton Rasengan.

Xinobi
11-21-2007, 06:08 PM
Wind is the most powerful element. Read about it. A big force of wind can put anything out. A breeze will give fire more fuel, not a forceful wind.

Doctor Octogonapus
11-21-2007, 06:18 PM
Wind is the most powerful element. Read about it. A big force of wind can put anything out. A breeze will give fire more fuel, not a forceful wind.

Yes, but Naruto doesn't have forceful wind, only Rasengan.
Also I believe earth is the most powerful element.
It blocks wind, blocks lightning, blocks fire, blocks water.

Xinobi
11-21-2007, 07:17 PM
Read 312 through 320ish...

Doctor Octogonapus
11-21-2007, 07:20 PM
No, i know it says that.
But when you think about it, Air doesn't get through solid ground, nor does fire, water, or lightning.

Xinobi
11-22-2007, 12:11 AM
As you seen with Asuma, his chakra wind knives went through rock... He said he has to hold back. Wind is bad ass.

Doctor Octogonapus
11-22-2007, 12:18 AM
As you seen with Asuma, his chakra wind knives went through rock... He said he has to hold back. Wind is bad ass.

Okay....sorry.
I thought we were arguing about it in real life...I was abouta say, have you ever stuck your nose in the ground and were able to breathe? That's how people get burried alive, no air.

squid14
11-26-2007, 01:03 PM
yeah.... that ture

hyugamaster
11-27-2007, 03:18 AM
naruto but only in the manga

Xinobi
11-27-2007, 05:12 AM
Okay....sorry.
I thought we were arguing about it in real life...I was abouta say, have you ever stuck your nose in the ground and were able to breathe? That's how people get burried alive, no air.

Anything in here is concerning the Naruto Universe...

Jaziel
12-05-2007, 03:47 PM
I think that Sasuke will win because of his curse mark!

Sasori[RedSand]
12-05-2007, 05:26 PM
I think this is in the wrong section

Ryandaman
12-05-2007, 08:51 PM
And I also think it is wayyy outdated. This was created back in March!

Chocolate
12-05-2007, 09:43 PM
It doesnt matter, he or she dowsnt know
Anyway, I think 2 taled Naruto would win cuz he ALMOST defeated Sasuke in his 1 tail form so if theres to Narutos gonna win

Moongem
12-05-2007, 11:21 PM
But you forget that was his first time in the CS2 state his chakra had been severed by it too... and he just woke up from being dead so...

original fox king foxstream
12-07-2007, 09:43 PM
Naruto Woooo!!!!!

Sentaro
12-11-2007, 01:44 PM
I would have to say Sasuke even though I rather Naruto. I watched Episode 135. Kakashi is taking Naruto into the hospital. Sasuke is still consious and runing back to Orochimaru.

NarutoWooohoooo
01-10-2008, 09:26 PM
This is Shippuden Versions, which person would win?

Doctor Octogonapus
01-10-2008, 09:27 PM
First of all I must say this thread is very creative. xDDDDD.

And Sasuke would win.

Summer.
01-10-2008, 09:41 PM
http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=2434

KingTW
01-12-2008, 07:14 AM
ok, I would say:

sasuke is stronger. sasuke would beat naruto. -for now.
what I believe is that naruto will get amazingly strong when he will learn how to control kyuubi's chakra. cuz he can be better than sasuke even without it. his incredible stamina, enormous amount of chakra, stubbornness and his new, special training will get him much stronger than he is now. he can learns S-rank techniques in one week now, while others, very talented shinobis needs many years to learn them...

I agree with every word xD, and I also hope on every word xD

Super Luigi
01-14-2008, 04:07 AM
ok, I would say:

sasuke is stronger. sasuke would beat naruto. -for now.
what I believe is that naruto will get amazingly strong when he will learn how to control kyuubi's chakra. cuz he can be better than sasuke even without it. his incredible stamina, enormous amount of chakra, stubbornness and his new, special training will get him much stronger than he is now. he can learns S-rank techniques in one week now, while others, very talented shinobis needs many years to learn them...

agreed

kstylegunz
01-20-2008, 12:39 AM
If they fight right now.
I'd say sasuke cuz he defeated orochimaru with ease while naruto in 4 tail couldn't. Sasuke also developed his own genjutsu, speed and power, and chidori nagashi

Doctor Octogonapus
01-20-2008, 12:40 AM
1. Sasuke didn't beat Orochimaru with ease, he went full strength and barely beat Orochimaru who was more than half dead.
2. Sasuke will win.
3. Already a thread this one needs to be closed.

Summer.
01-20-2008, 10:27 AM
http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=2434

Doctor Octogonapus
02-06-2008, 05:05 AM
The others were all inactive....

I say Naruto.

NaruxHina_4_Ever
02-06-2008, 05:17 AM
Yeah go Naruto

sHaoLin_ruGby
02-06-2008, 05:57 AM
dude you were supposed to specify that naruto had no kYuubi !

Shishi Uchiha
02-06-2008, 07:43 PM
naruto would win but sasuke wouldnt lose that badly

Doctor Octogonapus
02-06-2008, 10:03 PM
dude you were supposed to specify that naruto had no kYuubi !

No way. Then Sasuke has no Sharingan or Curse Seal.

BK-nin
02-07-2008, 01:32 AM
i still don't think naruto is ready to kill sasuke. so for now, sasuke would win.

sHaoLin_ruGby
02-07-2008, 01:37 AM
No way. Then Sasuke has no Sharingan or Curse Seal.

you said in the subbed forum, sasuke vs naruto thread that naurto couLd beat sasuke without kYuubi !

thats why i asked you to post this thread ! ! !

Doctor Octogonapus
02-07-2008, 01:51 AM
Oh, Yeah I said he could but I'm not gonna give him a handicap.

Canadian-beauty
02-07-2008, 02:35 AM
-Sasuke .vs. Naruto-

Who would be the real winner in an all out battle, to put aside everything they knew about one another. Without interuptions, without worring about reputation or dieing. In a battle, who do you think the real winner would be?

-Must give some evidence, not alot. Just an ittly bit to prove your point.

-And also, ignore the most recent Manga that we have seen. 387.

-And also ignore Itachi for a moment, who do you think would actually win?

NaruxHina_4_Ever
02-07-2008, 02:45 AM
Naruto as the Kyuubi could not only be released in full flight but naruto has got the Fuuton rasen shuriken (sp??) to use against sasuke while sasuke would have little to nothing to counter that (Much like when he used chidori on naruto at the end valley) the Kyuubi unleashed would be the deciding factor for victory to Naruto

tkn104
02-07-2008, 09:32 PM
naruto will win since he is konohas #1 unpredictable ninja

sHaoLin_ruGby
02-07-2008, 09:55 PM
Oh, Yeah I said he could but I'm not gonna give him a handicap.

why not? have you changed your mind?

Doctor Octogonapus
02-07-2008, 09:56 PM
No.
Because that's not fair.
If we take away the Kyuubi from Naruto we take out the Curse Seal and the Sharingan from Sasuke.

sHaoLin_ruGby
02-07-2008, 10:22 PM
don't worry bout it, i onLy asked you to post this thread because you said that naruto couLd sasuke without kYuubi, and i wanted to see if anyone esLe wouLd agree with you ! ! !

Neji'sEyes
02-08-2008, 10:56 PM
A nostalgic and worn-out battle.

Naruto Uzumaki.

Why?
Kyuubi is a big count in it him seeing Sasuke would make him a way lot angrier and oppresion going 4 tails or even more but it would be correct As we all hopefully saw in Shippuden Ep.44 Or 45 Naruto was huge and his strength was obliteratable with a huge amount of chakra also allowing him to build up his whole chakra in his mouth swallowing it and blasting.

CSL2 (Sasuke)
Well he is too small even if he goes Curse-Mark he is too small and Naruto is too big Chidori of a thousand birds is too little of an attck to destroy or even hurt 4-Tailed Naruto not even orochimaru's Katsuga sword could even pierce through the Kyuubi so it's useless.

Chidori Nagashi
Ok yes ppl we have seen this in the magna the problem is the attack is a bit too small meaning not much damage.

Naruto Uzumaki wins.

Doctor Octogonapus
02-11-2008, 12:06 AM
Nope.
Sasuke will 100% win.
Chapter 388.
Sasuke's Genjutsu is the same as Itachi's.
Naruto is helpless against Itachi's genjutsu.

Sasuke wins.....

Neji'sEyes
02-11-2008, 12:26 AM
OK yea Sasuke is cooler anyway!

MY04STI
02-11-2008, 06:12 AM
Yeah I'd have to say Sasuke cause he is a lot more experienced now and calm about fighting situations even when fighting someone he really wants to kill. Naruto is pretty weak vs genjitsu, and If the current fight favors Sasuke vs his brother then uh-oh he just leveled up his power greatly.

KingTW
02-11-2008, 06:43 AM
I'd say Sasuke right now atm, but later on Naruto will get rly strong and b able to take on Sasuke, but atm, Sasuke would win

Summer.
02-11-2008, 03:21 PM
I don't feel like writing the same stuff again, so I'll just copy/paste it:

ok, I would say:

sasuke is stronger. sasuke would beat naruto. -for now.
what I believe is that naruto will get amazingly strong when he will learn how to control kyuubi's chakra. cuz he can be better than sasuke even without it. his incredible stamina, enormous amount of chakra, stubbornness and his new, special training will get him much stronger than he is now. he can learns S-rank techniques in one week now, while others, very talented shinobis needs many years to learn them...

XuchihaXsasukeX
02-23-2008, 03:55 PM
I have a big big problem here about what that majin kid said b/c it makes no sense..
how u and the rugby kid were arguing about no kyuubi naruto and then no curse seal and sharingan sasuke...

i can see how you take the curse seal and kyubbi away from both b/c that makes perfect sense b/c they both give them power-ups and they are not BORN with that ability
BUT how could you take sasuke's sharingan away to? that is stupid b/c sasuke was born with the ability of the sharingan and naruto wasn't born with the ability of the kyuubi.. Shairngan is apart of sasuke as he was born wit the abilty so u cant take it away but you can take curse seal and kyuubi away b/c they were given to them..sharingan wasnt given to sasuke he earned it

NO KYUUBI=NO CURSE MARK=FAIR!

Neks
02-27-2008, 11:51 PM
if naruto keeps training with the technique kakashi showed him theres no doubt that naruto would PWN sauske. he masterd a technique ppl could only master after years of training in what a few days? He completed a techniqe and made it his own has sauske done that? you guys are under estimating naruto the way he took out that ninja with the 7 souls/hearts in 2 shots? kakashi said himself naruto has surpassed him already. and that was only training for a few dayz...let alone training for a week like that. the way his clones can learn a fighting style give him a HUGE potential. then add the 9 tailed fox inside him....he beat oro with no training just using the kyuubi...imagine him now with one tail out....Also you forgeting their chakra base...naruto has wind which owns lighting...so any lighting based attacks sauske does are usless against him....and if he picks up water based attacks and learns to use water based chakra then right away naruto has the advatnage....just like sauske had the advantage against dadairas earth type chakra. because water > fire and wind > lighting

Black Star
02-27-2008, 11:59 PM
Sasuke.
As mentioned before, Sasuke's genjutsu will affect Naruto. Another thing, I think Naruto would take it easy on Sasuke seeing as it's his friend and all.

Shishi Uchiha
02-28-2008, 01:32 AM
i think naruto would win cause of the kubbi chakra and his stamina

ChibiChan
02-28-2008, 02:02 AM
Naruto!!!

Anbuhaku
02-28-2008, 02:13 AM
naruto would win easy

LilBlock
02-28-2008, 07:41 PM
This is really hard lol Sasuke he would crush Naruto

GangstaKage
02-28-2008, 08:36 PM
I say it would be a tie
Just because Sasuke sorta/kinda killed Oro doesnt mean Naruto couldnt have
Also I dont think we have seen the extent of Naruto's training
I say they are even in strenght

Neks
02-28-2008, 08:52 PM
if naruto keeps training with the technique kakashi showed him theres no doubt that naruto would PWN sauske. he masterd a technique ppl could only master after years of training in what a few days? He completed a techniqe and made it his own has sauske done that? you guys are under estimating naruto the way he took out that ninja with the 7 souls/hearts in 2 shots? kakashi said himself naruto has surpassed him already. and that was only training for a few dayz...let alone training for a week like that. the way his clones can learn a fighting style give him a HUGE potential. then add the 9 tailed fox inside him....he beat oro with no training just using the kyuubi...imagine him now with one tail out....Also you forgeting their chakra base...naruto has wind which owns lighting...so any lighting based attacks sauske does are usless against him....and if he picks up water based attacks and learns to use water based chakra then right away naruto has the advatnage....just like sauske had the advantage against dadairas earth type chakra. because water > fire and wind > lighting

monahanre
02-28-2008, 09:06 PM
then again sasuke has the curse mark from the failedretrevial squad

Doctor Octogonapus
02-28-2008, 10:57 PM
Well judging from the Manga.
Sasuke is incredibly strong. Much much much much much stronger than Naruto on every level.
Naruto stands no chance.
But judging from what a bad writer Kishimoto is starting to become, I have to say Naruto.

jag123
03-03-2008, 06:23 AM
-Sasuke .vs. Naruto-

Who would be the real winner in an all out battle, to put aside everything they knew about one another. Without interuptions, without worring about reputation or dieing. In a battle, who do you think the real winner would be?

-Must give some evidence, not alot. Just an ittly bit to prove your point.

-And also, ignore the most recent Manga that we have seen. 387.

-And also ignore Itachi for a moment, who do you think would actually win?

these is cool but naruto whould kick sasukas ass. even when he is 2 taled naruto.:)

sHaoLin_ruGby
03-03-2008, 12:49 PM
Well judging from the Manga.
Sasuke is incredibly strong. Much much much much much stronger than Naruto on every level.
Naruto stands no chance.
But judging from what a bad writer Kishimoto is starting to become, I have to say Naruto.

why do you say that?

sasuke is the one being made into demi-god !

sharingan has been made ridicuLousLy strong ! ! !

Praetorian
03-03-2008, 12:58 PM
I think he's writing fine :) And I'm a writer, so I'd know (jk of course)

Anyway, Naruto's really fast and has good endurance, and now he has an ultimate jutsu, so I think it would be a pretty close match.

Doctor Octogonapus
03-03-2008, 05:47 PM
I think he's writing fine :) And I'm a writer, so I'd know (jk of course)

Anyway, Naruto's really fast and has good endurance, and now he has an ultimate jutsu, so I think it would be a pretty close match.

He's really not.
He's made so many mistakes in the past few chapters it's sad.

1. Madara founded the Uchiha Clan and created the Sharingan.
2. Now he was born into the clan he founded and developed the technique he created.

1. Sasuke and Naruto are supossed to be equals.
2. Itachi owned Naruto in all their fights.
3. Sasuke is owning Itachi.
4. Sasuke is now the second strongest ninja alive, Naruto is no where close.

Naruto is not really fast, he has an ultimate jutsu. But this match will be over quick.
Itachi vs. Naruto in manga.
He thought he had Itachi but Itachi had him.
Sasuke is now stronger than Itachi.
Naruto stands no chance against Itachi.
So Naruto stands absolutely no chance against Sasuke.

Doctor Octogonapus
03-03-2008, 05:48 PM
I'm not ignoring the manga.
This is manga section you don't like what you see in manga don't post in the section.
Sasuke would completely own Naruto.
There shouldn't be any argument to this anymore.
We saw Itachi trap Naruto when Naruto thought he was good.
Sasuke is even stronger than Itachi now, Naruto can't beat Kakashi, Itachi owns Kakashi. Naruto can't beat Itachi.
Naruto stands no chance against Sasuke.

sHaDuP PaYmE
03-03-2008, 09:34 PM
Naruto wins obvisuly cuz hes main charater he has 9 tail fox he can kill any one wiht that cannon attak with tails. naruto wins

Doctor Octogonapus
03-03-2008, 09:35 PM
Naruto wins obvisuly cuz hes main charater he has 9 tail fox he can kill any one wiht that cannon attak with tails. naruto wins

No he doesn't.
Sharingan suppresses 9-Tails chakra. And Sasuke is beating Itachi, who owns Kakashi who beats Naruto.

GangstaKage
03-03-2008, 09:48 PM
I think Kakashi said somewere that Naruto has become stronger than him but Sasuke has become so strong its un-real

StareIntoMySharingan
03-04-2008, 03:55 AM
I wonder something... We know orochimaru's kusanagi couldn't pierce throughthe kyuubi's chakra cloak, But what about sasuke's kusanagi chaged with a chidori nagashi? As of now, I think sasuke would own a non kyuubi naruto but it's only amatter of time before naruto owns ALL >:D

Doctor Octogonapus
03-04-2008, 05:21 PM
I wonder something... We know orochimaru's kusanagi couldn't pierce throughthe kyuubi's chakra cloak, But what about sasuke's kusanagi chaged with a chidori nagashi? As of now, I think sasuke would own a non kyuubi naruto but it's only amatter of time before naruto owns ALL >:D

Sasuke's Sharingan suppresses the Kyuubi's chakra.

sHaoLin_ruGby
03-05-2008, 01:27 AM
Sasuke's Sharingan suppresses the Kyuubi's chakra.

i think that even that was a mistake ! mishi shouLd be regretting that ! i mean madara in his prime (with infinite MS) had to do some convincing to get kYuubi to attack konoha ! sasuke, 3 years training with steroids from oro does it with normaL sharingan !

how is naruto supposed to stand a chance with no kYuubi ?

Doctor Octogonapus
03-06-2008, 02:56 AM
^^He doesn't.
That's why Kishimoto isn't thinking.

GangstaKage
03-06-2008, 02:59 AM
Honesty I want to make it a tie and if if Kishi was writing right then it would be that way(i think)

But since Kishi made Sasuke the 2nd strongest ninja alive
Sasuke wouold win

StareIntoMySharingan
03-06-2008, 04:32 AM
@Shaolin Rugby:Madara had the ability to control the kyuubi like a pet, no convincing needed... Sasuke can't do that, all he was able to do is suppress the kyuubi's chakra from the inside when naruto was doing it already... Kishi hasn't let me down so far and naruto is going to end up being the strongest shinobi WITHOUT the kyuubi :D

UchihaObito224
03-13-2008, 01:48 AM
shippuden sasuke is very powerful nd so is nruto i think sasuke uchiha

Hatake Kasumi
03-13-2008, 02:58 AM
Naruto VS Sasuke? Hmm...tough one. Shippuden: Definitaly Sasuke.
Before then: Naruto, due to Kyuubi.

LaserMonkey
03-13-2008, 04:40 AM
Sasuke definatly, Naruto still has no chances of defeating Sasuke YET.
Because you that promise that he gave to Sakura, that he will bring back Sasuke, i think like in one of the last mangas, Sasuke will get defeated by Naruto.

Kaden
03-13-2008, 04:56 PM
Mos def saying Sasuke. Naruto is all because of grit and Kyubi. Sasuke can control Kyubi's release of chakra pretty good. That cuts off his major source of attack

Naruto_Uchiha
03-17-2008, 01:30 AM
who'd win between the 2? i think naruto because sasukes only attack that could hurt 4 tailed naruto atleast a little is kirin, but that takes a lot of chakara. also, i don't think sasuke has an attack that can defend him from four-tailed strong ball. unless he knows orochimarus triple rashomon, wich willll merely reduces the blow, not stop it

Durandil91
05-02-2008, 06:43 PM
Yes that would be the ultimate jutsu unstoppable in every way.

narutoshippud
05-12-2008, 03:41 AM
who do you think would win.

shippuden naruto or shippuden sasuke.

i think shippuden naruto would win

sasuke tries to kill naruto with a sword in shippuden but does not kill him

Crimson
05-15-2008, 04:14 PM
I'd like Naruto to win but....Sasuke seems to have improved a lot as well....more than Naruto.....I'd say Sasuke would win....unless Naruto fights Sasuke after some more special training or something.....

Talksasuke
05-15-2008, 04:41 PM
I think shippuden Sasuke.:)

narutoshippud
05-18-2008, 07:13 PM
who do you think would win in a match between

cs2 sasuke(naruto shippuden) and 4 tailed fox naruto(naruto shippuden)

i think 4 tailed fox naruto would win because again he bet orochimaru in naruto shippuden in 4 tailed fox form with out a scratch orochimaru only hit him 1 time and that did no damge.

:naruto: & :kiba: are the coolest ninja.

i have claimed to be:
naruto uzumaki

FC"S im in:
naruto uzumaki FC
and more

Raidori
05-25-2008, 07:53 AM
dont advertise in the manga section please these parts of the forum are not for that. anyways i think that four tail naruto would win!

kamazl
05-25-2008, 11:45 AM
it would be a tie cause sasuke now has the mangeko sharingan and they would kill each other

Smosh
05-25-2008, 03:24 PM
ok we all should know sasuke won, but if you could alternate the ending, what would you make happen?

sasuke win with only sharigan?

naruto win?

someone die?

naruto win without kyuby fox?
,or anything you can think of

Raidori
05-25-2008, 08:02 PM
but he has only used it out of his own will so how would he use it in a fight againt kn4?

Teh Bomb Bijuu
05-26-2008, 09:43 AM
dont advertise in the manga section please these parts of the forum are not for that. anyways i think that four tail naruto would win!

what are u talkin about theres no advertising here

Raidori
05-26-2008, 11:18 AM
what are u talkin about theres no advertising here

there was until he or she removed it.

sakur4
05-26-2008, 12:50 PM
naruto

rhyno511
05-26-2008, 07:51 PM
ya obviously Naruto would when this he has rasenshuriken possibly the strongest jutsu in the world. even though he can only use it like once or twice i think he would use it smartly and kill sasuke at the right moment with it

Dark Naruto
05-26-2008, 07:53 PM
I would say 4 tailed kyuubi naruto (naruto shippuden).

itachi0110
05-27-2008, 02:01 AM
I'd like Naruto to win but....Sasuke seems to have improved a lot as well....more than Naruto.....I'd say Sasuke would win....unless Naruto fights Sasuke after some more special training or something.....

i agree with u naruto has no chance what so ever

Doctor Octogonapus
05-27-2008, 02:11 AM
Naruto has a chance, not much but still a chance.
But this will of course end in a tie.

itachi0110
05-27-2008, 08:01 PM
true

Dark Naruto
05-27-2008, 08:04 PM
I would say Naruto shuppueden.

itachi0110
05-27-2008, 08:41 PM
explain how

Dark Naruto
05-27-2008, 08:55 PM
explain how

Because he has the nine-tail kyuubi and he can turn into the four tails and use the ciero blast.

itachi0110
05-27-2008, 08:59 PM
Because he has the nine-tail kyuubi and he can turn into the four tails and use the ciero blast.


true but sasuke can surpress the kyuubi

Teh Bomb Bijuu
05-27-2008, 09:00 PM
true but sasuke can surpress the kyuubi

no only Yamato can supress Kyuubi

Dark Naruto
05-27-2008, 09:01 PM
true but sasuke can surpress the kyuubi

Well that's true oh don't forget Sasuke's speed.

itachi0110
05-27-2008, 09:04 PM
no only Yamato can supress Kyuubi


actually your wrong i'm sure everyone here who actually knos about the show will tell u that sasuke has already done it in shipp. episode 1

itachi0110
05-27-2008, 09:05 PM
Well that's true oh don't forget Sasuke's speed.

yup that's also true

Teh Bomb Bijuu
05-27-2008, 09:08 PM
actually your wrong i'm sure everyone here who actually knos about the show will tell u that sasuke has already done it in shipp. episode 1

Wow if you think about it his sharingan was only strong enough to look
into naruto that wasnt surpressing it because he wasnt even trying to get chakra for one and 2) he just turned it to bubbles naruto could still get chakra he chose not to because when it got out of control he hurt his freinds and the people he love

thats why tsunade chose Yamato in the first place becuase he was the only person to supress his chakra.It was because he had the firsts DNA

itachi0110
05-27-2008, 09:12 PM
Wow if you think about it his sharingan was only strong enough to look
into naruto that wasnt surpressing it because he wasnt even trying to get chakra for one and 2) he just turned it to bubbles naruto could still get chakra he chose not to because when it got out of control he hurt his freinds and the people he love

thats why tsunade chose Yamato in the first place becuase he was the only person to supress his chakra.It was because he had the firsts DNA



i kno all that except he did surpress it

Teh Bomb Bijuu
05-27-2008, 09:13 PM
i kno all that except he did surpress it

he couldnt have supressed it if he didnt get any chakra from him in the first place

itachi0110
05-27-2008, 09:21 PM
he couldnt have supressed it if he didnt get any chakra from him in the first place


i never said he did get chakra from him

Teh Bomb Bijuu
05-27-2008, 09:24 PM
i never said he did get chakra from him

thats what im sayin
he couldnt have supressed it if he wasnt using Kyuubi in the first place

itachi0110
05-27-2008, 09:33 PM
thats what im sayin
he couldnt have supressed it if he wasnt using Kyuubi in the first place


that's cuz he didn't get the chance 2

Teh Bomb Bijuu
05-27-2008, 09:34 PM
No he wasnt going to in the first place

itachi0110
05-27-2008, 09:35 PM
No he wasnt going to in the first place


i kno that but sasuke didn't

Teh Bomb Bijuu
05-27-2008, 09:39 PM
i kno that but sasuke didn't

sasuke didnt what??

itachi0110
05-27-2008, 09:40 PM
kno that naruto wasn't goin to use the kyuubi

Teh Bomb Bijuu
05-27-2008, 09:41 PM
kno that naruto wasn't goin to use the kyuubi

He didnt even surpress it though
He just so this is the source of your power
grabbed its head and squeezed it

itachi0110
05-28-2008, 08:57 PM
ok but sasuke will still win no matter what

rhyshawk453
05-28-2008, 09:17 PM
I think Shippuuden Naruto, espcially since he got the Rasen-Shruiken. And Kakashi says that he belive's that naruto is the only one that could surpass the fourth.

itachi0110
05-28-2008, 09:27 PM
I think Shippuuden Naruto, espcially since he got the Rasen-Shruiken. And Kakashi says that he belive's that naruto is the only one that could surpass the fourth.


lol u believe that come on explain why u think naruto would win

itachi0110
05-29-2008, 03:01 AM
agreed


i think sasuke will always be better than naruto i'm sorry but that's my opinion sasuke will always be one step ahead of naruto

emo_kenny
06-24-2008, 05:16 PM
naruto had only one tail on his lose if he had more tails he'd probally beat sasuke even in the shippuuden episodes id say naruto

caleb08
06-24-2008, 05:49 PM
6 tailed naruto would win, crs mark lvl 2 sasuke could barely beat 1 tailed naruto

XuchihaXsasukeX
06-24-2008, 06:28 PM
This is manga!!!!!!!!!!sasuke no longer has curse seal but he is at least ten times stonger now he would beat naruto probably up to 5 tails .......6 tails i doubt he could win..so naruto

vane
06-24-2008, 08:44 PM
^^It doesnt matter if he doesnt have it right now. That is the rules of the OP(original poster). He specified that Sasuke can have CS2 in this fight. So go as the OP says.

And to add we have never seen Naruto past 4 tails. So it is kinda pointless to add 6 tails. So I will go on and say that Naruto wins with 4 tails. Nothing can hurt him in 4 tails. Naruto becomes nothing more than an animal with the instinct to kill.

caleb08
06-25-2008, 02:30 PM
^^ pretty much nothing can really stop him not even orochimaru at his full power.

vane
06-25-2008, 03:30 PM
^^ Eactly. We seen 4 tailed Kyuubi take a little bit if damage but was unscathed by it.

swordsman3
06-26-2008, 05:48 PM
who will win:lmao: :naruto: :naruto: vs. :sasuke:

caleb08
06-26-2008, 05:57 PM
naruto would win in shippuden and regular series.

RyuSamuraiSpirit
06-26-2008, 05:59 PM
Sasuke with his sharingan and his Curse mark

swordsman3
06-26-2008, 06:00 PM
Sasuke with his sharingan and his Curse markyou shouldnt done what my cousin said :lol: <throws shurikan>

RyuSamuraiSpirit
06-26-2008, 06:07 PM
you shouldnt done what my cousin said :lol: <throws shurikan><blocks shurikan with sword>:xd: DANG HIM

swordsman3
06-26-2008, 06:13 PM
<blocks shurikan with sword>:xd: DANG HIMshaddow clone jutsue

RyuSamuraiSpirit
06-26-2008, 06:16 PM
Flash Speed justu <Slash you and shadow clone>

jazzy
06-26-2008, 06:17 PM
naruto wins but does he have the heart to hurt his best friend :love: :naruto:

swordsman3
06-26-2008, 06:22 PM
Flash Speed justu <Slash you and shadow clone>

gah tell me the info or die

RyuSamuraiSpirit
06-26-2008, 06:25 PM
gah tell me the info or dieDont need to <I Byakshagon special> do you like my world

swordsman3
06-26-2008, 06:26 PM
Dont need to <I Byakshagon special> do you like my world

gen jutsue release, i can tell you used gen jutsue:sad: 8) :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :love:

RyuSamuraiSpirit
06-26-2008, 06:30 PM
gen jutsue release, i can tell you used gen jutsue:sad: 8) :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :love:ummmmm this isnt a ordinary gen justu this is a Gen justu you cant release its a mangekyo if you think about it <Alot of me start holding you then slash you with there sword>

swordsman3
06-26-2008, 06:31 PM
ummmmm this isnt a ordinary gen justu this is a Gen justu you cant release its a mangekyo if you think about it <Alot of me start holding you then slash you with there sword>
you suk brother you go ahead and kill him

RyuSamuraiSpirit
06-26-2008, 06:34 PM
you suk brother you go ahead and kill himDont cry and wimper <Closes eyes>

caleb08
06-26-2008, 06:36 PM
you all do not know anything, naruto would unleash the kyuubi and kill sasuke easily.

swordsman3
06-26-2008, 06:36 PM
Dont cry and wimper <Closes eyes>heh heh figure out a way to find swordsman2 and get out of here he will be looking for you even more stonger then me

caleb08
06-26-2008, 06:39 PM
wat r u two talkin about "he's even stronget than me" new people are always a nuisance.

RyuSamuraiSpirit
06-26-2008, 06:40 PM
heh heh figure out a way to find swordsman2 and get out of here he will be looking for you even more stonger then meok ill find him and kill him:oh:

swordsman2
06-26-2008, 06:41 PM
ok ill find him and kill him:oh:
find out a way out of here

RyuSamuraiSpirit
06-26-2008, 06:42 PM
wat r u two talkin about "he's even stronget than me" new people are always a nuisance.Which form of Kyuubi cause if its 4tails DUH he would kill sasuke but if it was no tails he would go curse mark and fight back

swordsman2
06-26-2008, 06:43 PM
heh heh figure out a way to find swordsman2 and get out of here he will be looking for you even more stonger then me

http://z11.invisionfree.com/naruto_rpg_collseum/index.php?showtopic=87 my cousin gave him a mission to find information about this website all 3 swordsman 3 2 and 1

RyuSamuraiSpirit
06-26-2008, 06:43 PM
find out a way out of hereWhy leave when i could fight you

swordsman2
06-26-2008, 06:45 PM
Why leave when i could fight you shifts out of here

RyuSamuraiSpirit
06-26-2008, 06:48 PM
find out a way out of here

shifts out of hereWhere do i go to fight you

swordsman2
06-26-2008, 06:54 PM
Where do i go to fight you

this is a mission try finding me until i build my war

RyuSamuraiSpirit
06-26-2008, 06:56 PM
this is a mission try finding me until i build my wari dont like searching for people

caleb08
06-26-2008, 07:08 PM
sasuke's curse mark really isn't a big deal.

RyuSamuraiSpirit
06-26-2008, 07:59 PM
sasuke's curse mark really isn't a big deal.may not be but its powerful and ninetails would defiantly help naruto cause ninetails doesnt wont to die so duh naruto would win

Tsugaga
07-02-2008, 09:31 AM
Naruto would win.

itachi0110
07-04-2008, 04:11 AM
no he wouldn't think about it pretty much everything we seen oro do sasuke can do, also naruto can't stay in that form for to long

Rultzbud
07-04-2008, 04:18 AM
CS2 Sasuke would win.. While he's in CS form, his attacks are stronger, he can fight longer, and he's faster..

4TK Naruto isn't really Naruto. It's the Fox's chakra taking control of Naruto, while it damages him at the same time.

So with the being said, it'll be a tough fight, but Sasuke has the ability to dodge, and out wit 4tK Naruto until the Kyuubi's chakra takes it's toll and causes Naruto to either die, or pass out.

VampiricUchiha
07-04-2008, 04:30 AM
As long as Sasuke keeps his speed going 4t Naruto has no chance he can barely move with the chakra controlling him..

itachi0110
07-04-2008, 07:46 PM
i agree and everything oro did when he fought naruto 4tailed sasuike can except the sword coming out of his mouth

Tsugaga
07-05-2008, 09:09 AM
I don't know about this one. Maybe if Naruto could control himself he could win. U can't say that Sasuke would win ause Naruto can't move. Even though Naruto can't move his chakra can. But Naruto can't do Rasen Shurikan seein how he is in 4tk form. I don't really want too get into this thread but Sasuke's Kirin, Nagashi, Chidori sword sword, and chidori needles can't hurt Naruto. And yeah Naruto would eventually die cause of the Kyuubi(would he die and take the Kyuubi with him, or let it free, or would he pass out and stop the Kyuubi's chakra flow?) but Sasuke can't stay in CM2 for long or his body would get taken over. And can Genjutsu work on 4TK? but if Sasuke got hit with the Kyuubi Chakra Blast that would probably kill Sasuke. The Kyuubi Chakra Blast got through Orochimaru's Triple Rashoumon which just one Rashoumon is his ultimate defense, and then also severely damaged Orochimaru and the surrounding area.

itachi0110
07-05-2008, 08:52 PM
ok but sasuke can do that ultimate defense also, and we don't kno of kirin couldn't hurt 4tn, and we kno how long naruto can stay in that state we just don't kno how long sasuke can stay in cs2 we seen how long he was like that in the battle of naruto and, sasuke and that was longer than when naruto was in 4t

Peinsagod
07-06-2008, 10:14 AM
in the battle naruto vs. sauske naruto never went passed 3 tails so u cant use that at all plus the kyuubi could just compress a lot chakra and the instead of a beam he could supernova it and spread in a circle hurting everything so sauske couldnt dodge plus naruto in the 3 tails in their battle was almost the exact same strength as sauske in his cs2 so 4 tails would make him way more powerful and when 4t naruto fought Oro he only did it for a little while and would have kept fight but oro and kabuto ran away and the kyuubis chakra was sealed thats why he passed out not because he was 2 weak

Tsugaga
07-06-2008, 09:37 PM
When Naruto and Sasuke fought at the water fall Naruto only had 1 tail not three. And We don't know how long Naruto can stay 4tk. And it doesn't matter if Sasuke can do the triple Rashoumon. Naruto Kyuubi Chakra blast still got through all of Oro's and still damaged him alot

itachi0110
07-08-2008, 10:41 PM
i kno wut r u talking about peinsagod, ok and back to Tsugaga yes we do kno how long he can do 4tf we seen how he almost died and sasuke is beater than oro

Super Luigi
07-08-2008, 10:57 PM
naruto would own

Smiley
07-08-2008, 11:26 PM
i kno wut r u talking about peinsagod, ok and back to Tsugaga yes we do kno how long he can do 4tf we seen how he almost died and sasuke is beater than oro

Sasuke is not better than Oro.
And Sasuke would win in my opinion, hence he can suppress Kyuubi's chakra.

itachi0110
07-09-2008, 01:24 AM
i agree 100%, and yes he is, he already beat him

Smiley
07-09-2008, 10:14 AM
He beat him because he was sick..
He admitted it himself.

Peinsagod
07-09-2008, 11:29 AM
yes he was able to supress the kyuubis chakra when the kyuubi was still controlled by Naruto and was not out but if the kyuubi were to get out and controll Naruto Sauske wouldnt be able to go into narutos subconscious and supress him because naruto is no longer in control and the kyuubi is like 100x stronger than anything else in the entire show so sauske couldnt really supress the chakra plus naruto cant move fast but im sure if the kyuubi tried he could make 4tnaruto move hella fast

hyuga_fan
07-09-2008, 12:21 PM
u have the mind of a child(no offense)

ur kind of stubborn and dont see the point

madara could supress the actual kyuubi when it didnt have a bijuu

im sure sasuke could do the same with a bijuu

itachi0110
07-09-2008, 06:45 PM
i agree with hyuga_fan and smiley it doesn't matter do u kno why oro lost because all he cared about was trying to take over sasukes body it doesn" t matter if he was sick or not he still would lose at 100%

Smiley
07-09-2008, 07:12 PM
Yes, it matters. Everyone knows that.
Even Sasuke admitted so.

itachi0110
07-09-2008, 07:14 PM
so nothing he still would of won

Peinsagod
07-09-2008, 11:04 PM
i agree with hyuga_fan and smiley it doesn't matter do u kno why oro lost because all he cared about was trying to take over sasukes body it doesn" t matter if he was sick or not he still would lose at 100%

actually it does matter because remeber what he did to the kyuubi if he was at that strength Sauske would have had no chance plus when the others asked if he really beat oro he said he was sick for the reason

Peinsagod
07-09-2008, 11:06 PM
u have the mind of a child(no offense)

ur kind of stubborn and dont see the point

madara could supress the actual kyuubi when it didnt have a bijuu

im sure sasuke could do the same with a bijuu

SRY for double posting



ok i understand where you are coming from but if you think far enough back you will remember that the tailed besasts are actually stronger when in jinchurikki

Tsugaga
07-09-2008, 11:30 PM
How do we know how long Naruto can stay 4tails?

itachi0110
07-09-2008, 11:36 PM
actually it does matter because remeber what he did to the kyuubi if he was at that strength Sauske would have had no chance plus when the others asked if he really beat oro he said he was sick for the reason


ok look everything oro can do sasuke can, sasuke even has more chakra than oro alot more

KyuubiChakra
07-09-2008, 11:48 PM
ok look everything oro can do sasuke can, sasuke even has more chakra than oro alot more

Yeah but he can not du da sord mouth thing, an can he summon sssssnakes?

D.I.Y Death
07-10-2008, 12:04 AM
ok look everything oro can do sasuke can, sasuke even has more chakra than oro alot more

you're saying Sauske is at a Sannin level.
What the hell is wrong with you?
He beat Oro because Oro was extremely weak and by his own admittance he wouldn't have won without Oro being weak.
You're premature ejaculation in regards to Sauske being as powerful as one of the 3 LEGENDARY Sannin has to be one of the dumbest posts I have seen in a while.
Oro taught Sauske most of what he knows, Oro gave him the CS mark, Oro has regenerative abilities that Sauske does not have, Oro knows more Jutsu that Sauske could dream of knowing. I could go on for hours on how much stronger Oro is than Sauske.

itachi0110
07-10-2008, 12:05 AM
i already stated he couldn't do the sword thing, and yes he can do the snakes through his arms and summon the big snake

D.I.Y Death
07-10-2008, 12:06 AM
i already stated he couldn't do the sword thing, and yes he can do the snakes through his arms and summon the big snake
Manda is dead, the snake arms are sealed. Sauske has the MS though, which is kind of worth it.

D.I.Y Death
07-10-2008, 12:08 AM
yes sasuke can do the regeneration ability and stop being immature and sayin gay shit

Stop spelling like a retard who's been sniffing paint all day.
Sauske cannot lose limbs and regrow them, he is NOT orochimaru thusly he is not essentially a giant snake in human form.

itachi0110
07-10-2008, 12:08 AM
wut r u talking about this is when he has the cm which means he still has the manda, and he obviously is at a sannin level seing how he is that good so yes that is wut i'm sayin

itachi0110
07-10-2008, 12:09 AM
Stop spelling like a retard who's been sniffing paint all day.
Sauske cannot lose limbs and regrow them, he is NOT orochimaru thusly he is not essentially a giant snake in human form.


doesn't matter he still learned them and stop being immature

D.I.Y Death
07-10-2008, 12:13 AM
doesn't matter he still learned them and stop being immature

Still learned what? how to regurgitate his body? B.S.
I won't call you names, but I'm really really tempted to because your posts are useless, full of fanboyism and you contribute little more than little brown nuggets in threads like these with your fiat claims of how Sauske is now at a Sannin level. But ok, you know what I'll be nice, give me proof from the magna and I'll apologize and write a 1000 word essay on why I'm an asshole and should keep my mouth shut. The only rule is it has to be concrete proof (no implied crap) and has to be from onemagna.com

itachi0110
07-10-2008, 12:18 AM
ok everything has to be from that the manga, look i kno wut i kno it's imposible to argue with u all u do is talk shit and try to make people feel bad, stop tryin to act cool and just debate man i mean come on how ld r u like 10 grow up man

D.I.Y Death
07-10-2008, 12:24 AM
ok everything has to be from that the manga, look i kno wut i kno it's imposible to argue with u all u do is talk shit and try to make people feel bad, stop tryin to act cool and just debate man i mean come on how ld r u like 10 grow up man

Actually People argue with me and I admit when I'm wrong, hence why I'm telling you to go get your proof or shut the hell up with Sauske being as powerful as the Sannin.
You talk a lot on this forum, but you NEVER bring any proof, if you did I wouldn't be treating you like some retarded monkey flinging poo at pedestrians. So stop with the blatantly evasive, redundant and passive aggressive drivel and get your proof or leave.
P.S. Is English your first language? If it is, GO TAKE NIGHT SCHOOL, if not I understand it can be hard to get your second language right but please try a little harder. following your posts gets a little hard with the improper word context and horrific spelling combined.

D.I.Y Death
07-10-2008, 12:49 AM
ok first i find the monkey comment very offensive, and i didn't think i needed proof sein how a couple of people kno i'm right and 2 yur english also isn't that great

My English is impeccable, from word usage to grammar to spelling.
Sorry if the money thing offended you, I'll try to restrain from ripping into you too hard from now on.
You ALWAYS need proof. You're a nice enough person but you need to know that people who actually debate want proof otherwise your opinion especially when its as important as Sauske is as strong as a Sannin is not valid. Without your proof you attract nothing but retards who, like the retarded monkeys of this world, fling poo everywhere and get everyone soiled from their foulness.
So like I said I just want proof and if you give it to me I will apologize for my rude conduct.
And by the way, when someone does what I'm doing to you getting defensive is the last thing you should do because it gives a person like me more to work with, your response should be trowing everything I said to you right in my face with providing proof of your opinion that comes from the magna and is based on what the text literally says, but on the plus side you're making more detailed posts now, even if they aren't good ones its a huge step up from what you were doing before. Good job on that.

itachi0110
07-10-2008, 12:55 AM
ok being prejudice isn't something to work with and yur grammer is perfect wut about the words u mest up like, money for monkey, trowing for throwing, and magna for manga

D.I.Y Death
07-10-2008, 01:03 AM
ok being prejudice isn't something to work with and yur grammer is perfect wut about the words u meast up like, money for monkey, trowing for throwing, and magna for manga

hmm you got me there, I messed up my spelling.
what prejudice? You've lost me there....
Why are you avoiding the subject of bring proof? Is it because you don't have any? Its not like you haven't been online to provide the proof, or haven't seen the posts telling you to prove that Sauske is at a Sannin level.
So prove your point, or alternatively you can say in my biased and totally illegitimate opinion Sauske is as strong as one of the three legendary Sannin.

itachi0110
07-10-2008, 01:05 AM
he is he beat oro that is my proof he would of beat hom even if he was 100% and stop refering monkey to me

Naruto&Jiriaya
07-10-2008, 01:11 AM
treating you like some retarded monkey flinging poo at pedestrians.

Hey i thought u said where going to keep your comments to self and i dare u to something I cause found that monkey comment really offensive and i know i am not in this little tif (oh p.s stop trying to use big words it makes seems like a stuck up asshole) but sasuke could very well be as strong as the sanin I am big sasuke hater but I might have some proof Cause i don't know the exact chapter but I know that Jiraiya almost died when he fought Naruto at 4 tails and Madara sent sasuke to take out the 8 tails and he said that he can vouch for him so there is your proof but you need to stop saying raciest comments you dogmatic begetic.:naruto: :mad:

itachi0110
07-10-2008, 01:28 AM
also sasuke is always one step higher than naruto

D.I.Y Death
07-10-2008, 01:29 AM
Hey i thought u said where going to keep your comments to self and i dare u to something I cause found that monkey comment really offensive and i know i am not in this little tif (oh p.s stop trying to use big words it makes seems like a stuck up asshole) but sasuke could very well be as strong as the sanin I am big sasuke hater but I might have some proof Cause i don't know the exact chapter but I know that Jiraiya almost died when he fought Naruto at 4 tails and Madara sent sasuke to take out the 8 tails and he said that he can vouch for him so there is your proof but you need to stop saying raciest comments you dogmatic begetic.:naruto: :mad:

What racist remarks? If you're referring to me saying "monkey" thats idiotic, monkey is not slang for a specific ethnicity.
You're terrible at English too, Itachi at least didn't have run on sentences.
Also these aren't big words, this is how grown ups talk when they get an education past grade 8.
As for your proof, give me a link to your proof.
I know Sauske and Team hawk were dispatched to get the 8 tails, but thats Team hawk lead by Sauske, not Sauske while Team hawk stands in the background saying "wow Sauske's so strong he doesn't need us!"
So provide proof or you, like Itachi can shut it :)

itachi0110
07-10-2008, 01:32 AM
yur cool a big 21 year old grown up arguein with teens yeah man yur real grown, and jir said it in a episode that 4tn almost killed him and the proof in the manga i will show u and put it in yur face, and rascist remarks as callin a black person a monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

D.I.Y Death
07-10-2008, 01:38 AM
he is he beat oro that is my proof he would of beat hom even if he was 100% and stop refering monkey to me

Oro was WEAKENED and Sauske admitted that he normally could not have beaten Oro.
Stop ignoring other people's posts and their proof.
And on that note I'm done arguing with you, you're terrible at arguing, you ignore reason, you've broken almost every rule set for the battledome in terms of your blatant fanboyism, ignoring proof and your infamous one word posts and for some reason you can't seem to come up with any proof what so ever.

itachi0110
07-10-2008, 01:40 AM
and i did reply to that,yur just mad because i won this debate, ok i could get u banned if i wanted to report u

D.I.Y Death
07-10-2008, 01:42 AM
yur cool a big 21 year old grown up arguein with teens yeah man yur real grown, and jir said it in a episode that 4tn almost killed him and the proof in the manga i will show u and put it in yur face, and rascist remarks as callin a black person a monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're fucking retarded. I never called you a monkey, nor did I call you black.
If you pull that racism card with me again I'm going to report your posts that have broken the rules to the administration and let them deal with your presumptuous butt.
What does Naruto 4 Tails almost killing Jir have to do with you claiming that Sauske is as strong as a Sannin?
Sauske has never fought Naruto 4 Tails, nor can he transform into a Kyuubi 4 Tails state so I hardly see how that relevant to your argument.
Think before you post.

KyuubiChakra
07-10-2008, 01:46 AM
Hey D.I.Y Death fag, u need to shut your mouth and get out of this thread. No 1 wants u here and u need to stop startin shit. Sasuke has beaten Orochimaru, they both have snake summoning, the both know forbidden techs, Sasuke know regeneration techs too, Sasuke also has Kirin, Nagashi, Chidori weapon, and Chidori. Plus Sasuke has Curse mark. Oro will lose.

itachi0110
07-10-2008, 01:47 AM
Actually People argue with me and I admit when I'm wrong, hence why I'm telling you to go get your proof or shut the hell up with Sauske being as powerful as the Sannin.
You talk a lot on this forum, but you NEVER bring any proof, if you did I wouldn't be treating you like some retarded monkey flinging poo at pedestrians. So stop with the blatantly evasive, redundant and passive aggressive drivel and get your proof or leave.
P.S. Is English your first language? If it is, GO TAKE NIGHT SCHOOL, if not I understand it can be hard to get your second language right but please try a little harder. following your posts gets a little hard with the improper word context and horrific spelling combined.


right here u called me a monkey and try and get me banned u more than likely will or we both but i hate rascist people like u

D.I.Y Death
07-10-2008, 01:47 AM
and i did reply to that,yur just mad because i won this debate, ok i could get u banned if i wanted to report u

You haven't won anything, you've shown that you can't hold your own and have absolutely NO proof in regards to Sauske being at a Sannin level.
And go right ahead, if fact since you seem so adment on being an immature shit disturber I figure I may as well beat you to the punch and report you for your gross misconduct in this thread.
I for one have avoided out right calling you any names directly while you've called me racist and broken a few rules in this thread. I for one have had enough of you and you're absolutely terrible attitude, horrible posts and blatant disregard for logic, reason and rules set up to guide this forum.

Naruto&Jiriaya
07-10-2008, 01:49 AM
What racist remarks? If you're referring to me saying "monkey" thats idiotic, monkey is not slang for a specific ethnicity.
You're terrible at English too, Itachi at least didn't have run on sentences.
Also these aren't big words, this is how grown ups talk when they get an education past grade 8.
As for your proof, give me a link to your proof.
I know Sauske and Team hawk were dispatched to get the 8 tails, but thats Team hawk lead by Sauske, not Sauske while Team hawk stands in the background saying "wow Sauske's so strong he doesn't need us!"
So provide proof or you, like Itachi can shut it :)

umm excuse me fuck you and I mean that from deep with in, you call yourself a "debater" but you throw out insults. I have never seen an adult who talks like that, and if u say something about the adult i hang around they all went to college and graduated, and work for really good companies like CA and own million dollar companies. Oh also I am pretty sure knowing sasuke's character and how Kishimoto writes he usually has one person doing all the fighting.
ex. zabuza vs. kakashi, naruto vs. haku, when they went to go try and save sasuke choji fought by himself , so did neji, shikamaru and kiba. Also, lee fought by himself and started loosing so then gara stepped in and fought by himself. So knowing how kishimoto writes these fights will be the same.
oh and also i am fucking junior in high school.

itachi0110
07-10-2008, 01:50 AM
ok go ahead i have proof u were bein rascist and i have other people as my wittness banne me u go down as well

Naruto&Jiriaya
07-10-2008, 01:51 AM
You haven't won anything, you've shown that you can't hold your own and have absolutely NO proof in regards to Sauske being at a Sannin level.
And go right ahead, if fact since you seem so adment on being an immature shit disturber I figure I may as well beat you to the punch and report you for your gross misconduct in this thread.
I for one have avoided out right calling you any names directly while you've called me racist and broken a few rules in this thread. I for one have had enough of you and you're absolutely terrible attitude, horrible posts and blatant disregard for logic, reason and rules set up to guide this forum.

You are such a lier you started the insults and what type of "grown man" needs to go tattle tale like a 4 year old and please report me.

itachi0110
07-10-2008, 01:52 AM
umm excuse me fuck you and I mean that from deep with in, you call yourself a "debater" but you throw out insults. I have never seen an adult who talks like that, and if u say something about the adult i hang around they all went to college and graduated, and work for really good companies like CA and own million dollar companies. Oh also I am pretty sure knowing sasuke's character and how Kishimoto writes he usually has one person doing all the fighting.
ex. zabuza vs. kakashi, naruto vs. haku, when they went to go try and save sasuke choji fought by himself , so did neji, shikamaru and kiba. Also, lee fought by himself and started loosing so then gara stepped in and fought by himself. So knowing how kishimoto writes these fights will be the same.
oh and also i am fucking junior in high school.

lol the beginin funny as hell

Smiley
07-10-2008, 01:54 AM
If you look back, Itachi was the 1st to call Death "immature" and his posts "gay shit".

Rultzbud
07-10-2008, 01:55 AM
D I Y, ignore him... Ignorance is hard to hide..

Anyway, I think Sasuke would win, simply because 4TK hurts Naruto, and with Sasuke's speed, he'll be able to dodge him long enough until he gets rather beaten.

D.I.Y Death
07-10-2008, 01:57 AM
You are such a lier you started the insults and what type of "grown man" needs to go tattle tale like a 4 year old and please report me.

Why would I report you? You don't ruin threads when you post in them, you don't accuse me of racism, to my knowledge you don't ignore facts others have posted.
I have no issue with you and quite frankly I don't care if you insult me.
I have a very valid reason to be rude with Itachi and I was even lightening up on him until he called me racist.
So mind your own business as this is pertaining to a developing issue I have with Itachi and not you.

Naruto&Jiriaya
07-10-2008, 01:59 AM
If you look back, Itachi was the 1st to call Death "immature" and his posts "gay shit".

did anyone ask u to add your two cents and i know i jumped only because he said something raciest

itachi0110
07-10-2008, 01:59 AM
u started it and he is involved because he is also black

Smiley
07-10-2008, 02:00 AM
He called your post "dumb" because you throw statements with absolutely no arguments to cover them.
You then replied with calling his posts "gay shit" etc.

And c'mon stop insulting each other all of you.
Itachi, if you've got any proof that Sasuke can beat Oro at 100% or any other sennin, post it.

Smiley
07-10-2008, 02:01 AM
did anyone ask u to add your two cents and i know i jumped only because he said something raciest

Calling someone a monkey isn't racism, as far as I'm concerned.
-.-

Rultzbud
07-10-2008, 02:03 AM
did anyone ask u to add your two cents and i know i jumped only because he said something raciest

Jesus christ, you over sensitive bastard. Shut up. The race card is over played, and just ignorant.. He didn't use the word, MONKEY, as a racial word..

He was using it saying that you're acting like a monkey throwing feces at people.. Good god, get over yourself man..

Smiley
07-10-2008, 02:05 AM
Wow.
Then you should've simply referred to the certain thing he said not say that his posts are gay sh*t.
And he called you that cause you're trying to make everyone believe what you think with no evidence at all.

And stop swearing and insulting, you're just making this thing worse.
Let's just go back to normal conversation.

D.I.Y Death
07-10-2008, 02:06 AM
this is the first thing he said to me he was in the wrong (you're saying Sauske is at a Sannin level.
What the hell is wrong with you?
He beat Oro because Oro was extremely weak and by his own admittance he wouldn't have won without Oro being weak.
You're premature ejaculation in regards to Sauske being as powerful as one of the 3 LEGENDARY Sannin has to be one of the dumbest posts I have seen in a while.
Oro taught Sauske most of what he knows, Oro gave him the CS mark, Oro has regenerative abilities that Sauske does not have, Oro knows more Jutsu that Sauske could dream of knowing. I could go on for hours on how much stronger Oro is than Sauske.) so u kno wut fuck u both to yur d.i.y. little bitches banne me i don't give a fuck u guys r fucked up

I'm going to address a few important things and then I'm dropping the issue.
First of all I never called you a monkey, secondly money does not refer to the color of a person's skin. If you believe it does that is your racism issue and not mine.
Here is what I said in regards to monkeys
Without your proof you attract nothing but retards who, like the retarded monkeys of this world, fling poo everywhere and get everyone soiled from their foulness.
if you did I wouldn't be treating you like some retarded monkey flinging poo at pedestrians
Did I call you a monkey? nope.

Next its fairly well known that I'm a bit of a dick but I'm also extremely civil to people who can communicate and can contribute or share opinions that are constructive or that indicate they are subjective. You have not demonstrated this and thusly you have no respect from me and you get a similar response Majin first got from me.
Now my offer still stands if you can provide concrete evidence from onemagna.com that Sauske is at a Sannin level then I will apologize sincerely to you for being rude and you will instantly gain my respect, however after your extremely stupid racism outburst if you fail to do this your word will forever mean absolutely nothing to me and I will do my best to passively shun you from any decent thread you post in to preserve a possibly good thread that you may taint just by posting in.
Thats my final post in this regard and I'll even wait 24 hours to see if you can provide the proof I require.

itachi0110
07-10-2008, 02:07 AM
it's as worse as it can get i kno i'm banned and u will kno my prof when i get back in 15 days i couldn't get that far

Naruto&Jiriaya
07-10-2008, 02:07 AM
Why would I report you? You don't ruin threads when you post in them, you don't accuse me of racism, to my knowledge you don't ignore facts others have posted.
I have no issue with you and quite frankly I don't care if you insult me.
I have a very valid reason to be rude with Itachi and I was even lightening up on him until he called me racist.
So mind your own business as this is pertaining to a developing issue I have with Itachi and not you.

you might have no issue with me, but u did say something raciest and as a fellow african american I am going to back up my people. If u didn't call him a monkey this would have been a nice little debate. Also, if u delete him for what he said i have said worse things then he has so i should get delete if he does. I am getting angry for no reason i am done with this but next time please trying watching what u say cause some people get offended easily.