Kisame vs. Kakashi and Sasuke

[rush rush]

A great amount of chakra v.s the sharingan users!

[Xai]

this would be a great fight but in the end kisame will lose.

i'm glad you think so, but WHY do you think so?

anyway, i think kisame has this one, whenever Sasuke or Kakashi try and use Raikiri/Chidori kisame can counter with samehada, and we already saw the samehada counter the kyuubi chakra so whats stopping it from countering sasuke's curse seal.

also, both sasuke and kakashi (sadly) have a minimal (when compared to Kisame) chakra supply so then the whole endurance issue comes into play.

in my eyes the only way kakashi and sasuke can win is if sasuke does the whole lightning thingy that he used against Itachi, BUT how would he unless he makes the clouds (iirc, i may be wrong..... so ya....) and even so, knowing kisame's techs are mainly water based wouldn't that ensure death for all three? (for those who may not know, water conducts electricity) so, theres my view of teh issue.

^_^

Edit: the lightning thingy i spoke of is called Kirin.

[darkninjaIII]

kisame will lose. if kakashi wanted to he could take this without sasuke. kakashi is more skilled, and alot more level headed.

[Yondaime The Yellow Flash]

Hmm I would say Kisame got a chance, if he gets on a range and fills up with suiton and sharks, since he got insane chakra he could pull it off, but most likely We see a double Kirin :D sharingan Copy FTW.

[WhiteFang]

It'll be fried fish for dinner.
Kakashi and Sasuke would own Kisame.
I can imagine so many scenarios, but keeping it simple, Sasuke can use Amaterasu, and while Kisame is distracted (or he may even die by that itself) Kakashi can blast him to the next dimension.
Otherwise also, Sasuke and Kakashi are masters of lightning techs. They could electrocute Kisame. Kakashi pulled another sweet "Thunder dog" move in the manga recently. Kakashi can also use Doton. And Doton>Suiton. Kakashi's summons are also Doton summons.
Another thing to note is that Kisame has shown no ability to dispel genjutsu whatsoever. In the battle of him and Itachi Vs Asuma and Kurenai, he was pretty screwed and Itachi had to save him by using that genjutsu counter. Kisame for the most part was helpless. And Sasuke is very good at genjutsu. We've already seen that. And he does have a that MS genjutsu tech. too.
So Kisame doesn't stand a chance against these two.

[X-Drake]

I don't know. Kisame would take out sasuke and Kakashi. Kakashi could handle Itachi but Kisame could be taken out by guy. Kisame sword aborbs chakra and we don't know if it could absorb jutsus or what.

Kisame could handle sasuke while Kakashi might be able to use a nice jutsu but not Kamui as kisame would not stay still like dedieria in the air in one direction.

Kisame would only be taken out by kakashi.

[Yondaime The Yellow Flash]

Ehh and btw Sasuke isnt able to use Ama and Tsu as he wish, his MS is different then Itachi :D

[Xai]

It'll be fried fish for dinner.
Kakashi and Sasuke would own Kisame.
I can imagine so many scenarios, but keeping it simple, Sasuke can use Amaterasu, and while Kisame is distracted (or he may even die by that itself) Kakashi can blast him to the next dimension.
Otherwise also, Sasuke and Kakashi are masters of lightning techs. They could electrocute Kisame. Kakashi pulled another sweet "Thunder dog" move in the manga recently. Kakashi can also use Doton. And Doton>Suiton. Kakashi's summons are also Doton summons.
Another thing to note is that Kisame has shown no ability to dispel genjutsu whatsoever. In the battle of him and Itachi Vs Asuma and Kurenai, he was pretty screwed and Itachi had to save him by using that genjutsu counter. Kisame for the most part was helpless. And Sasuke is very good at genjutsu. We've already seen that. And he does have a that MS genjutsu tech. too.
So Kisame doesn't stand a chance against these two.

I recently read the new chapters too, and decided to change up my post.

Long story short, Kakashi uses his Headhunter tech to send a clone underground and temporarily bind kisame, the real kakashi then summons his nin dogs. Then kakashi seals away samehada, using this tech tires out kakashi (remember the deidara fight) Sasuke then steps up and Kirin's Kisame to hell. Or he can Katon him to hell, either way.

Fried shark anyone?

Sasuke/Kakashi: 1 Kisame:0

[WhiteFang]

I recently read the new chapters too, and decided to change up my post.

Long story short, Kakashi uses his Headhunter tech to send a clone underground and temporarily bind kisame, the real kakashi then summons his nin dogs. Then kakashi seals away samehada, using this tech tires out kakashi (remember the deidara fight) Sasuke then steps up and Kirin's Kisame to hell. Or he can Katon him to hell, either way.

:lmao: Well put.

Fried shark anyone?
Well, I'm a vegetarian. :p But I guess Sasuke and Kakashi definitely wouldn't mind. :xd:

Sasuke/Kakashi: 1 Kisame:0
Yep. That's how it is. :^^:

[X-Drake]

Kisame could handle team hebi without sasuke and they are kinda strong, plus a few hosts, and we seen a bit of him, he is not weak.

Hidden mist jutsu = Both sharingan users blind

And the mist will make kamiu useless as he cannot aim.

Sasuke is no match for Kisame or Itachi or any Akatsuki.

Kisame can use his sword and some uber suiton jutsu to drown and kill them. Kakashi might lose or win after a while.

[WhiteFang]

Kisame could handle team hebi without sasuke and they are kinda strong, plus a few hosts, and we seen a bit of him, he is not weak.
He ain't weak, but he certainly isn't strong enough to beat Kakashi and Sasuke.

Hidden mist jutsu = Both sharingan users blind
Wtf?
Hell no. Zabuza used the Hidden Mist tech. only because he was a master of silent killing and could detect opponents even by the slightest sound.
Kisame has never shown to have any such ability. If anything, he's gonna get himself in more trouble. And Kakashi can annihilate him just like he did against Zabuza. Simply use his Doton summons.
Another fact is that Kakashi at that time could not see Zabuza only because the mist was super thick due to the presence of the ocean all around them. The sharingan can see through regular mist and can also see chakra. And we have both Kakashi and Sasuke there.

And the mist will make kamiu useless as he cannot aim.
Again, no.
If the mist thing happens, Kisame dies by another way, namely the dogs and Chidori/Raikiri/Chidori Nagashi/Thunder dog/whatever is your preference.

Sasuke is no match for Kisame or Itachi or any Akatsuki.

Oh really? The dude is almost as powerful as Itachi and forced Deidara into self-destruction. What else do you want?
He has an extremely powerful MS genjutsu which is probably Tsukuyomi. He has Amaterasu. He has two elements which he knows very well, namely Katon and Raiton.

Kisame can use his sword and some uber suiton jutsu to drown and kill them. Kakashi might lose or win after a while.
Again no. Its not so easy as you make it sound. He can't just drown and kill them, because a) Sasuke and Kakashi are one of the fastest guys on the show b) they can use chakra and float on the water c) Kakashi has awesome Suiton himself and we have already seen his ability to release the tech. simultaneously along with his opponent. Kakashi will easily be able to keep up with whatever Kisame is doing or atleast keep him distracted and Sasuke can move in for the kill.

Plus you are ignoring one very important point: Genjutsu.
Sasuke has amazing genjutsu and Kakashi's is easily above average, he has sharingan and can see through regular genjutsu.
Kisame has shown no ability whatsoever to combat genjutsu as he was helpless against Kurenai's genjutsu, Itachi had to use the counter and save him or he was cooked.
And this is a major major point in Kakashi and Sasuke's favor, they simply need to use genjutsu. And also Kakashi can use Doton which is greater than Suiton. What's Kisame gonna do about that? Plus his inferior speed which I have already mentioned.

I just don't see Kisame winning.

[X-Drake]

He ain't weak, but he certainly isn't strong enough to beat Kakashi and Sasuke. Seperate Yes, Together, maybe. Kisame at 30% could handle team Gai who is stronger than kakashi and Sasuke but not the whole team 7. the clones couldn't use special abilities like the bloodline limit MS, who knows if kisame has one.


Wtf?
Hell no. Zabuza used the Hidden Mist tech. only because he was a master of silent killing and could detect opponents even by the slightest sound.
Kisame has never shown to have any such ability. If anything, he's gonna get himself in more trouble. And Kakashi can annihilate him just like he did against Zabuza. Simply use his Doton summons.
Another fact is that Kakashi at that time could not see Zabuza only because the mist was super thick due to the presence of the ocean all around them. The sharingan can see through regular mist and can also see chakra. And we have both Kakashi and Sasuke there.Ahh you forgot one fact. Kakashi was bleeding and used the dogs to trace his scent. Zabuza still had kakashi's blood with him.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/29/naruto_29_19/

Unless they have kisame's blood, then I don't see them seeing through the mist. And no, the Sharingan cannot see through the mist. As kakashi said to zabuza "if you can't use your eyes, then use your nose" just as the nin dogs came up. :p


Again, no.
If the mist thing happens, Kisame dies by another way, namely the dogs and Chidori/Raikiri/Chidori Nagashi/Thunder dog/whatever is your preference.Nin dogs is no read up. Chidori is useless if you can't see the opponent.


Oh really? The dude is almost as powerful as Itachi and forced Deidara into self-destruction. What else do you want?
He has an extremely powerful MS genjutsu which is probably Tsukuyomi. He has Amaterasu. He has two elements which he knows very well, namely Katon and Raiton.Hell no, Itachi beat Deidara with one Tskyumi [sp] and if he was serious against sasuke, then the match would have not lasted long.


Again no. Its not so easy as you make it sound. He can't just drown and kill them, because a) Sasuke and Kakashi are one of the fastest guys on the show b) they can use chakra and float on the water c) Kakashi has awesome Suiton himself and we have already seen his ability to release the tech. simultaneously along with his opponent. Kakashi will easily be able to keep up with whatever Kisame is doing or atleast keep him distracted and Sasuke can move in for the kill.Kisame has many water jutsus, he made and ocean and Water prison is unbreakable unless your a hyuuga or might be able to shoot and amatarasu but that may not work.

Plus you are ignoring one very important point: Genjutsu.
Sasuke has amazing genjutsu and Kakashi's is easily above average, he has sharingan and can see through regular genjutsu.
Kisame has shown no ability whatsoever to combat genjutsu as he was helpless against Kurenai's genjutsu, Itachi had to use the counter and save him or he was cooked.
And this is a major major point in Kakashi and Sasuke's favor, they simply need to use genjutsu. And also Kakashi can use Doton which is greater than Suiton. What's Kisame gonna do about that? Plus his inferior speed which I have already mentioned.

Ahahaha your soo very wrong. It was Kisame vs Asuma with the sword and knuckle knives and
Itachi vs Kurenai
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/141/13/

Kisame has never shown ability of genjutsu or counters, so do not judge him. Also Itachi used Heaven and earth mirror change or something with the sharingan to counter and switch.

I just don't see Kisame winning.
Heh, I see Kisame handling them but lossing at the end. He can handle them seperately.

[Smiley]

Ahahaha your soo very wrong. It was Kisame vs Asuma with the sword and knuckle knives and
Itachi vs Kurenai
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/141/13/

But Kisame was also caught in genjutsu, and started sinking into the ground.
It was dispelled when Itachi countered it with the Sharingan.

[Katsumi]

I'll have to say Kakashi and Sasuke, since Sasuke is now very strong and with Kakashi, who his a really powerful jounin, I have to agree with my last idea.

[X-Drake]

But Kisame was also caught in genjutsu, and started sinking into the ground.
It was dispelled when Itachi countered it with the Sharingan.
The genjutsu was at Itachi but affected the area. Asuma might have saw it.

And Kisame has a heavy sword and is fighting a jounin, so why would he care about a genjutsu that is not directed against him and he has a genjutsu master next to him.

[D.I.Y Death]

The genjutsu was at Itachi but affected the area. Asuma might have saw it.

And Kisame has a heavy sword and is fighting a jounin, so why would he care about a genjutsu that is not directed against him and he has a genjutsu master next to him.

...what the hell? You're smarter than this.
First of all its is Sauske and kakashi vs kisame. Why are you bringing other people into this? Secondly Kisame has never been seen using that hidden mist technique. Thirdly he's been seen to be caught in genjutsu that isn't anywhere near Tsyomi(sp?) potency. Not only does he have a traditional sharingan to deal with (amaretsu and Tsyuomi) but he has Kakashi's wormhole which can kill him easily if he's immobilized for and amount of time.

[X-Drake]

...what the hell? You're smarter than this.
First of all its is Sauske and kakashi vs kisame. Why are you bringing other people into this? Secondly Kisame has never been seen using that hidden mist technique. Thirdly he's been seen to be caught in genjutsu that isn't anywhere near Tsyomi(sp?) potency. Not only does he have a traditional sharingan to deal with (amaretsu and Tsyuomi) but he has Kakashi's wormhole which can kill him easily if he's immobilized for and amount of time.
Yh but sasuke has not got Tskyomi (sp).

Kakashi who has a low chakra amount vs kisame who has monster chakra like naruto but a bit more without the demon or sage.

I am saying one on one Kisame would take out sasuke and might be able to wiin against kakashi.

Kakashi has low chakra, as seen against pain, his sharingan takes up too much and his worm hole, he needs to aim and kisame can move. Deidara was flying in on direction and only lost an arm.

Sasuke is good but kisame is better like Kirabi who chose to esscape the village via sasuke.

Against both, he may last but would lose at the end. Like against team Gai, kisame could last and trap them.

[D.I.Y Death]

Yh but sasuke has not got Tskyomi (sp).
He tried to use some form of MS genjutsu on the 8 tailed. Chances are its Tskyomi.

Kakashi who has a low chakra amount vs kisame who has monster chakra like naruto but a bit more without the demon or sage.
He has the same amount as Naruto with the kyuubi chakra. Not more.

I am saying one on one Kisame would take out sasuke and might be able to wiin against kakashi.
What does this have to do with Sauske and Kakashi vs Kisame? We are looking at a 2 vs 1 battle not Kisame vs Sauske and then Kakashi tournament.

Kakashi has low chakra, as seen against pain, his sharingan takes up too much and his worm hole, he needs to aim and kisame can move. Deidara was flying in on direction and only lost an arm.
There's lots of scenarios we could go through but lets just say that Kakashi wouldn't use that unless he had to and unless he knew it would hit.

Sasuke is good but kisame is better like Kirabi who chose to esscape the village via sasuke.
Considering both are s-class criminals/missing nin and Sauske is teaming up with Kakashi for this Sauske's ability to fight 1 vs 1 with Kisame has little relevancy.

Against both, he may last but would lose at the end. Like against team Gai, kisame could last and trap them.
Kisame was dealing with taijutsu users a gentle fist user and a weapons specialist who isn't very good compared to other shinobi. None of those shinobi are currently strong enough (except Gai) to give Kisame any type of problems.
Are you drunk or high or something? You really aren't even posting like you normally do.