Kakashi and Jiriaya vs. Minato

[darkninjaIII]

who do you think the winner is? cause i cant decide.

[MinatoNamikaze]

Minato would crush Kakashi in no time at all. So this fight would basically be just a Jiriya vs Mianto battle which eveyone (or hopefully everyone) agree Mianto takes it.

[Toshiro Bankai]

Minato would crush Kakashi in no time at all. So this fight would basically be just a Jiriya vs Mianto battle which eveyone (or hopefully everyone) agree Mianto takes it.

I advise you not to underestimate Kakashi, k?

[darkninjaIII]

I advise you not to underestimate Kakashi, k?

agreed. kakashi is one of konoha's greatest

[NaruxHina_4_Ever]

Minato is above all the other Hokages and they are at least equal to Kakashi and Jiraiya. Kakashi may be one of the best as is Jiraiya but Minato is so far above them that he would easily take this fight.

[D.I.Y Death]

I don't see how Jir and kakashi can beat the 4th. Not only can the 4th move at lightning speeds buthe invented the ransagen and is typically described as one of the strongest shinobi in Naruto.

[darkninjaIII]

I don't see how Jir and kakashi can beat the 4th. Not only can the 4th move at lightning speeds buthe invented the ransagen and is typically described as one of the strongest shinobi in Naruto.

i'll give you the lightning speeds but the rasengan is pointless here cause kakshi and jiraiya can do that too.

[Smiley]

Yes, but Minato invented it. Big difference.

Minato would crush Kakashi in no time at all. So this fight would basically be just a Jiriya vs Mianto battle which eveyone (or hopefully everyone) agree Mianto takes it.

He can't beat Kakashi that fast.
They both know about Hirashin, they aren't gonna fall for it that easily.
The guy from Gaiden fell for it because
1) He was fighting Kakashi
2) He didn't know that he had multiple enemies
3) He probably didn't know how Hirashin works.

They aren't just gonna let him mark them with jutsu-shiki seal.
Kakashi can easily avoid being marked.
I know that once they're marked it's game over, not even Sharingan can follow the speed of Hirashin.
BUT, both Kakashi and Jiraiya would be very hard targets to put the seal on, especially considering that they know Hirashin very well.
Kakashi's sharingan can predict the opponent's movements before they come, it's pretty much impossible to mark him if he sees Minato putting a seal on him before he does.

Now, as for Gamabunta.
We don't know on whose side he would be summoned so he isn't a factor in this fight. Let's assume that Gamabunta doesn't exist.

Jiraiya still has Gamaken, who isn't as huge as Gamabunta but can be helpful here.
Kakashi can with help of Gamaken buy some time for Jiraiya to reach the Hermit mode, and put Minato in genjutsu with the toad's song. Other than that, physically, they can get him, after some fighting though.
He is a problem to hit because of his ability to teleport around instantly, but he would eventually run out of chakra(two people most likely have more chakra then one; He would be all out before them) which would allow them to get him.
I'm giving this to Kakashi and Jiraiya.
Sure, he can use the shiki fujin and seal them, but then it's a tie.

[D.I.Y Death]

i'll give you the lightning speeds but the rasengan is pointless here cause kakshi and jiraiya can do that too.

What? Kakashi can't do that.
Jir can but he isn't very good at ransagen hence why he doesn't use it very often. Worst case scenario the 4th uses his death reaper jutsu and its a tie.

[D.I.Y Death]

Yes, but Minato invented it. Big difference.



He can't beat Kakashi that fast.
They both know about Hirashin, they aren't gonna fall for it that easily.
The guy from Gaiden fell for it because
1) He was fighting Kakashi
2) He didn't know that he had multiple enemies
3) He probably didn't know how Hirashin works.

They aren't just gonna let him mark them with jutsu-shiki seal.
Kakashi can easily avoid being marked.
I know that once they're marked it's game over, not even Sharingan can follow the speed of Hirashin.
BUT, both Kakashi and Jiraiya would be very hard targets to put the seal on, especially considering that they know Hirashin very well.
Kakashi's sharingan can predict the opponent's movements before they come, it's pretty much impossible to mark him if he sees Minato putting a seal on him before he does.

Now, as for Gamabunta.
We don't know on whose side he would be summoned so he isn't a factor in this fight. Let's assume that Gamabunta doesn't exist.

Jiraiya still has Gamaken, who isn't as huge as Gamabunta but can be helpful here.
Kakashi can with help of Gamaken buy some time for Jiraiya to reach the Hermit mode, and put Minato in genjutsu with the toad's song. Other than that, physically, they can get him, after some fighting though.
He is a problem to hit because of his ability to teleport around instantly, but he would eventually run out of chakra(two people most likely have more chakra then one; He would be all out before them) which would allow them to get him.
I'm giving this to Kakashi and Jiraiya.
Sure, he can use the shiki fujin and seal them, but then it's a tie.

If one summon isn't allowed neither are others for balance purposes.

[Smiley]

What? Kakashi can't do that.
Jir can but he isn't very good at ransagen hence why he doesn't use it very often. Worst case scenario the 4th uses his death reaper jutsu and its a tie.

Kakashi can do Rasengan.
And Jiraiya has Ultimate Rasengan(the huge one).

If one summon isn't allowed neither are others for balance purposes.

Gamabunta is not allowed cause it's both Jiraiya's and Minato's and it would be pointless to argue about on whose side it would be summoned =/

[darkninjaIII]

What? Kakashi can't do that.
Jir can but he isn't very good at ransagen hence why he doesn't use it very often. Worst case scenario the 4th uses his death reaper jutsu and its a tie.

yeah remember he showed naruto he could do it.

[D.I.Y Death]

Kakashi can do Rasengan.
And Jiraiya has Ultimate Rasengan(the huge one).
I really don't remember Kakashi doing ransagen.
I'll just take your word for it.


Gamabunta is not allowed cause it's both Jiraiya's and Minato's and it would be pointless to argue about on whose side it would be summoned =/
I agree, but if you are avoiding that argument you should take summoning out of this completely. Otherwise its handicapping the fight pretty badly for Minato.
In any case I believe that this will be an extremely close match, Jir is no push over, however Kakashi does lack the power needed to fight in a battle like this, the speed of the 4th is too much for a chidori or rakiri to connect and the prep time for his ms is too high to be effective against someone who can travel that fast.

Although Kakashi's ms and Jir's swamp of the underworld combined could render some interesting and bloody results :)

[Smiley]

I really don't remember Kakashi doing ransagen.
I'll just take your word for it.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/321/08/

I agree, but if you are avoiding that argument you should take summoning out of this completely. Otherwise its handicapping the fight pretty badly for Minato.
In any case I believe that this will be an extremely close match, Jir is no push over, however Kakashi does lack the power needed to fight in a battle like this, the speed of the 4th is too much for a chidori or rakiri to connect and the prep time for his ms is too high to be effective against someone who can travel that fast.

Although Kakashi's ms and Jir's swamp of the underworld combined could render some interesting and bloody results :)

They can't hit him because of Hirashin, but eventually he would run out of chakra and wouldn't be able to use it anymore.
Two people have more chakra than one, Minato would run out first.

But alright, no summons `-.-
I still believe Kakashi and Jiraiya would win.
Kakashi just has to distract Minato for a while, prevent him from getting to Jiraiya and from throwing kunai at him(so he can't teleport), which I believe he would be able to do.
I mean, from what we know Minato has:
-Rasengan
-Hirashin
-Gamabunta
-Shiki fujin

And that's about it.
Rasengan can easily be avoided, and as I said in my last post, Hirashin would fail against someone who knows it so well, especially when it's sharingan user.
So, either he will run out of chakra or Jiraiya would put him in genjutsu with the toad's song imo.

[MinatoNamikaze]

I disagree. Minato takes it.

Kakashi couldnt last anytime ina abtle with him. Minato doesnt need to put a seal right on him to get to him. He can put in anywhere and force them to theat spot. Minato knows both of them better than anyone. He knows all their secrets adn can counter. I know Jiriya and them know about his Jutsu, but theres nothing they can do. The 50 or so guys in the army that Minato killed in a blink of an eye knew of his ability and he killed them all in a blink of an eye.

BTW Im not counting this in the battle, but Gambunta would go with Minato becasue he is stronger. I cant remeber for sure, but I think I remeber Jiriya or someone saying something along the lines of Minato haveing a full packed with the toad, more than jiriya did, so it would go to Minato.

I give the fight to minato

[D.I.Y Death]

I disagree. Minato takes it.

Kakashi couldnt last anytime ina abtle with him. Minato doesnt need to put a seal right on him to get to him. He can put in anywhere and force them to theat spot. Minato knows both of them better than anyone. He knows all their secrets adn can counter. I know Jiriya and them know about his Jutsu, but theres nothing they can do. The 50 or so guys in the army that Minato killed in a blink of an eye knew of his ability and he killed them all in a blink of an eye.

BTW Im not counting this in the battle, but Gambunta would go with Minato becasue he is stronger. I cant remeber for sure, but I think I remeber Jiriya or someone saying something along the lines of Minato haveing a full packed with the toad, more than jiriya did, so it would go to Minato.

I give the fight to minato

I remember the full pact thing also, but I can't remember where I had seen it.

Anyhow the 4th doesn't need to mark a person does he? and he can just throw his kunai without using that specific point at the moment.
So if thats the case he throws, a few around, forces them into the right position and all of a sudden hes behind with a rasagen in hand.

And one last thing, Toad Song isn't Jir's ability, its his summons ability (when he summoned the two little frogs to help him fight Pein)
If I post against any serious debaters in this shape though I won't make any sense so I'm off to sleep. Good night all.

[Smiley]

I remember the full pact thing also, but I can't remember where I had seen it.

Anyhow the 4th doesn't need to mark a person does he? and he can just throw his kunai without using that specific point at the moment.
So if thats the case he throws, a few around, forces them into the right position and all of a sudden hes behind with a rasagen in hand.

And one last thing, Toad Song isn't Jir's ability, its his summons ability (when he summoned the two little frogs to help him fight Pein)
If I post against any serious debaters in this shape though I won't make any sense so I'm off to sleep. Good night all.

It's true that he needs to mark the spot to teleport, but how is he gonna force them if they know about the techniqe and they know it's an instant kill once he teleports behind them?
And about the Toad's song, yeah, it's ma and pa's ability. That's why Kakashi needs to distract Minato until Jiraiya goes Hermit mode and uses the Toad's song.
akashi couldnt last anytime ina abtle with him. Minato doesnt need to put a seal right on him to get to him. He can put in anywhere and force them to theat spot. Minato knows both of them better than anyone. He knows all their secrets adn can counter. I know Jiriya and them know about his Jutsu, but theres nothing they can do. The 50 or so guys in the army that Minato killed in a blink of an eye knew of his ability and he killed them all in a blink of an eye.

How is he going to force him to walk over the jutsu-shiki marked spot?
Kakashi knows about the technique, he knows how it works and wouldn't fall for it that easily.
Also, he didn't beat the whole army in blink of an eye.
We don't know how much it took him.
And they probably didn't know how Hirashin works.

BTW Im not counting this in the battle, but Gambunta would go with Minato becasue he is stronger. I cant remeber for sure, but I think I remeber Jiriya or someone saying something along the lines of Minato haveing a full packed with the toad, more than jiriya did, so it would go to Minato.

Even if he summons Gamabunta, Jiraiya can use swamp of the underworld against him.
Also, I don't think that it's about whose stronger, but more about the personality, who Gamabunta likes more =|

[MinatoNamikaze]

Ya and we dont know if Minato had senjutsu training. I dont think he did becaseu there no mention of it, but imagine how incredible he would have been. He would have been more invincible in battle than he was.

[MinatoNamikaze]

It's true that he needs to mark the spot to teleport, but how is he gonna force them if they know about the techniqe and they know it's an instant kill once he teleports behind them?
And about the Toad's song, yeah, it's ma and pa's ability. That's why Kakashi needs to distract Minato until Jiraiya goes Hermit mode and uses the Toad's song.

They may not have choice to avoid it. Minato is one of the strongest ever. He could make them go anywhere. Kakashi wouldnt distract him. He isint even strong enough to register on hokage level (a strong one htat is). So he would be nothing to Minato. Jiriya would be more of a challenge as he was his teacher, but Minato would take this.


How is he going to force him to walk over the jutsu-shiki marked spot?
Kakashi knows about the technique, he knows how it works and wouldn't fall for it that easily.
Also, he didn't beat the whole army in blink of an eye.
We don't know how much it took him.
And they probably didn't know how Hirashin works.

They may not have choice to avoid it. Minato is one of the strongest ever. He could make them go anywhere. They knew what it was thats why they were given orders to retreat. Yes it was not in the blink of an eye, but in les then about 10 seconds. If I can find the Manga page Ill get it for you.

Even if he summons Gamabunta, Jiraiya can use swamp of the underworld against him.

And Minato could teleport out of it.

BTW do you know what chapters Jiriya used that tech in cause its been a while since I read it and I cant really remember much about the technique.:D

Also, I don't think that it's about whose stronger, but more about the personality, who Gamabunta likes more =l

lol thats very plausible :D :lmao: :p

[Smiley]

They may not have choice to avoid it. Minato is one of the strongest ever. He could make them go anywhere. Kakashi wouldnt distract him. He isint even strong enough to register on hokage level (a strong one htat is). So he would be nothing to Minato. Jiriya would be more of a challenge as he was his teacher, but Minato would take this.

I know that he isn't hokage level, but yet I don't see how he would force him to walk over a certain spot.
Tell me how?
Kakashi's Sharingan can follow the speed of kunai, he'll just remember where the spots are and will not walk near them.
He only has to distract him until the Toad's song is completed. Not more than that.


They may not have choice to avoid it. Minato is one of the strongest ever. He could make them go anywhere. They knew what it was thats why they were given orders to retreat. Yes it was not in the blink of an eye, but in les then about 10 seconds. If I can find the Manga page Ill get it for you.

Ok. I'm pretty sure it was only said the defeated them, not specified how fast.


And Minato could teleport out of it.

True, he can teleport himself out of it, but not Gamabunta. :)

BTW do you know what chapters Jiriya used that tech in cause its been a while since I read it and I cant really remember much about the technique.:D

http://img36.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/00000166/07.jpg

Basically it creates a huge swamp below the user which causes them to sink.
Also, he wasn't at his 100% then, most likely he can make it bigger when he's at full power.

[Peinsagod]

ok we don't have to exclude summoning becuse i think gama would choose not too fight remember when naruto asked him to fight he said no until gamakichi said shukaku was picking on him


Jiraya and kakashi know minatos techiniques incredibly well because in school kakashi had to read about him and jir was his teacher so they know not to get hit by the markers and to stay away from where they are plus it'll be hard to hit someone who knows where you are GOING to be and someone else who taught you where to be


Jir could just summon up a few toads to help kakashi keep him busy go sage mode and use toad song



its either that or minato gets a good or lucky hit and its all over



and jir said he couold make the swamp huge enogh to completely swallw oros snake and more

[MinatoNamikaze]

I know that he isn't hokage level, but yet I don't see how he would force him to walk over a certain spot.
Tell me how?
Kakashi's Sharingan can follow the speed of kunai, he'll just remember where the spots are and will not walk near them.
He only has to distract him until the Toad's song is completed. Not more than that.

He forces them by fighting them and making them back off into a corner. Its been done countless times in manga and anime. Its used to set off a trap.

Ok. I'm pretty sure it was only said the defeated them, not specified how fast.

True but his teleporting jutsu makes him move very fast. he moves at atleast the speed of lighting (which reaches the ground in 1/1000 of a second. so that mean in 100/1000 of a second he could teleport to every enemy and cut their throats. I eloted some time to actually cut the guys throat.



True, he can teleport himself out of it, but not Gamabunta. :)

No but he can dismiss him I think. It woudlnt be done in the manga becasue its a cheap ass move but he could dimiss him and then summon him again :D But Minato would know about that tech and know how to avoid it. BTW he doesnt need gambunta to win. If he is summoned, it would be over befreo he oculd even use swamp of the underworld.


http://img36.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/00000166/07.jpg

Basically it creates a huge swamp below the user which causes them to sink.
Also, he wasn't at his 100% then, most likely he can make it bigger when he's at full power.

Ok thank you very much for getting me that :) I thought he used it in the pein fight. my bad

[Smiley]

He forces them by fighting them and making them back off into a corner. Its been done countless times in manga and anime. Its used to set off a trap.


BUT if Kakashi knows where he must not step, he can't make him walk that way.
I'm not sure what you're referring to but likely, victims of those traps, didn't know that there was an actual trap.
Kakashi does know that if he walks over the spot, he will die.
He will just try to move the battle in the other direction.


True but his teleporting jutsu makes him move very fast. he moves at atleast the speed of lighting (which reaches the ground in 1/1000 of a second. so that mean in 100/1000 of a second he could teleport to every enemy and cut their throats. I eloted some time to actually cut the guys throat.

And for that he needs to mark the spot on that he wants to teleport. Which is what we're discussing right now. :P



No but he can dismiss him I think. It woudlnt be done in the manga becasue its a cheap ass move but he could dimiss him and then summon him again :D But Minato would know about that tech and know how to avoid it. BTW he doesnt need gambunta to win. If he is summoned, it would be over befreo he oculd even use swamp of the underworld.

That would be a complete waste of chakra. Summon Gamabunta, the boss summon twice!? Naruto had to use Kyuubi to be able to punch Gaara after summoning Gamabunta, summoning it twice would be too much.
And no, swamp of the underworld is an instant jutsu, if he uses it, Gamabunta will sink before being able to do anything.

Ok thank you very much for getting me that :) I thought he used it in the pein fight. my bad

He used it against Pein too.

[Muffin]

^ Yes but if Swamp of the underworld was used on Gama seeing as he's a giant toad he wouldn't be bothered by it as much as Oro's snakes would be

[Smiley]

^ Yes but if Swamp of the underworld was used on Gama seeing as he's a giant toad he wouldn't be bothered by it as much as Oro's snakes would be

If it was a normal swamp, yes.
But as seen in the battle with Pein, once you start to sink you get immobilized.
Probably because it changes from the swamp to what it was before the jutsu was used.
So Gamabunta would be stuck with half of his body underground.

[Chocolate]

I don't see how Jir and kakashi can beat the 4th. Not only can the 4th move at lightning speeds buthe invented the ransagen and is typically described as one of the strongest shinobi in Naruto.
Agree.

[rush rush]

Minato would destroy Jiriya and Kakashi Minato could just start moving lightning fast mand just play around with the two!

[MinatoNamikaze]

BUT if Kakashi knows where he must not step, he can't make him walk that way.
I'm not sure what you're referring to but likely, victims of those traps, didn't know that there was an actual trap.
Kakashi does know that if he walks over the spot, he will die.
He will just try to move the battle in the other direction.

Out right kakshi couldnt move away from the spot. Minato is far to strong to have kakashi force him back. Kakshi doenst have to be on it, just near it and Minata would be able to disappear and reappear right behind him before he knwew hat happened.



And for that he needs to mark the spot on that he wants to teleport. Which is what we're discussing right now. :P

Do you remeber the Itahci vs sauke fight. Lookk at this pic.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/387/06-07/ If Minato did this with his special kunai , NOONE not even Pein could defend against it. He could beat both of them with this one move.



That would be a complete waste of chakra. Summon Gamabunta, the boss summon twice!? Naruto had to use Kyuubi to be able to punch Gaara after summoning Gamabunta, summoning it twice would be too much.
And no, swamp of the underworld is an instant jutsu, if he uses it, Gamabunta will sink before being able to do anything.

lol I was just making a joke. It would never happen I know, but its a simple solution to a difficult problem

He used it against Pein too.


ok I thought he did thanks

[darkninjaIII]

Minato would destroy Jiriya and Kakashi Minato could just start moving lightning fast mand just play around with the two!

im not saying minato wouldnt win cause i dont know. but why do a lot of people including yourself think that minato will just wipe kakashi and jiraiya out? think about these two know his fighting style, seen him in action, and they both spent years with him either as a student or a teacher.

[rush rush]

im not saying minato wouldnt win cause i dont know. but why do a lot of people including yourself think that minato will just wipe kakashi and jiraiya out? think about these two know his fighting style, seen him in action, and they both spent years with him either as a student or a teacher.

your right Minato would have alot of trouble but i still think Minato would win

[MinatoNamikaze]

Ya it wouldnt be a cake walk, but ti wouldnt be an epic fight either. Remeber Minato knows all the things about them too.

[Smiley]

Since we're counting Gamabunta in, then Gamaken is on Jiraiya and Kakashi's side as well :)
Gamabunta would be sunk into the swamp, as we agreed.
So Gamaken and Kakashi would have to hold off Minato a bit.
Which wouldn't be too hard.

If countering kunai is a problem then Jiraiya can help him out until Minato runs out of them.
Kunai of two men > Kunai of one man
Plus they have help of Kakashi's sharingan which would see kunai coming even before they do.
Preventhing Minato's shuriken/kunai to get near them with their own, especially when there's the two of them, and one of them is Sharingan user wouldn't be a problem.
Heck, even Gamaken can help them out to make sure not even one kunai gets near them.
Then, Jiraiya will hide behind Gamaken and Kakashi and him will start holding off Minato until Hermit mode and the Toad's song are completed.

Another option is for Kakashi to make a kage bunshin and hide the real body underground.
Gamaken would be protecting Jiraiya, and after the kunai battle is over, Kakashi would come out of ground with knowledge of everything that happened and locations of jutu-shiki marked spots.
It lowers the risk of him being killed if Minato's kunai get to them. Although, the point still stands: Kunai of two men + Gamaken > Kunai of one man

This has kinda turned into a battle simulation, though >.>

[MinatoNamikaze]

Since we're counting Gamabunta in, then Gamaken is on Jiraiya and Kakashi's side as well :)
Gamabunta would be sunk into the swamp, as we agreed.
So Gamaken and Kakashi would have to hold off Minato a bit.
Which wouldn't be too hard.

If countering kunai is a problem then Jiraiya can help him out until Minato runs out of them.
Kunai of two men > Kunai of one man
Plus they have help of Kakashi's sharingan which would see kunai coming even before they do.
Preventhing Minato's shuriken/kunai to get near them with their own, especially when there's the two of them, and one of them is Sharingan user wouldn't be a problem.
Heck, even Gamaken can help them out to make sure not even one kunai gets near them.
Then, Jiraiya will hide behind Gamaken and Kakashi and him will start holding off Minato until Hermit mode and the Toad's song are completed.

Another option is for Kakashi to make a kage bunshin and hide the real body underground.
Gamaken would be protecting Jiraiya, and after the kunai battle is over, Kakashi would come out of ground with knowledge of everything that happened and locations of jutu-shiki marked spots.
It lowers the risk of him being killed if Minato's kunai get to them. Although, the point still stands: Kunai of two men + Gamaken > Kunai of one man

This has kinda turned into a battle simulation, though >.>


Yes I know and htat is why this will be the lsat thing I say about it.:D

It doesnt matter whether they hit Minatos Kunai or not. He will already be able to telepot once he throws one. the others are for insurance and a distraction.

[Smiley]

I know, he will be able to teleport, but if all of their kunai/shuriken meet Minato's on their way he won't be able to finish the battle in couple of seconds by teleporting behind them and cutting their throats.
Now with Gamaken added on Kakashi's side, distraction will become easier and eventually Minato would fall for genjutsu.
He can't deal with the giant summon and Kakashi at the same time..

[MinatoNamikaze]

I thought we wernt using summons. Oh well. Anyway, he doents have to be behind them. He can teleport closer and closer (if the Kunai on make it half way he teleports half way adn then strats again and it continues until he is behind or infront of them. He could also throw Kunai behind him and high and then telelport there and get a sneak atack fromt that. Anyway no Im dont with the battle scenario :)

[Smiley]

I thought we wernt using summons. Oh well. Anyway, he doents have to be behind them. He can teleport closer and closer (if the Kunai on make it half way he teleports half way adn then strats again and it continues until he is behind or infront of them. He could also throw Kunai behind him and high and then telelport there and get a sneak atack fromt that.

Well, I included Gamaken since we agreed on that Gamabunta would be summoned on Minato's side.
About the kunai thing..
How can he teleport in front of them if there are no kunai there??
They know that if kunai reaches any spot near them, they're done for, I explained this in my long post. Since it's the two of them, chances are very low that any of Minato's kunai would reach them.


Anyway no Im dont with the battle scenario :)

'Kay ;)

[MinatoNamikaze]

Well, I included Gamaken since we agreed on that Gamabunta would be summoned on Minato's side.
About the kunai thing..
How can he teleport in front of them if there are no kunai there??
They know that if kunai reaches any spot near them, they're done for, I explained this in my long post. Since it's the two of them, chances are very low that any of Minato's kunai would reach them.



'Kay ;)

Ook lasttime I promise.

If u read my post carfully I said if the Kunai only reach ha;f way he telports half way. And then he strats throwing again and teleports half way. Once he is close enough they wouldnt have time to through Kunai to counter at which point he throws it behind them and its game over. K NOW im done :)

[Smiley]

Ook lasttime I promise.

If u read my post carfully I said if the Kunai only reach ha;f way he telports half way. And then he strats throwing again and teleports half way. Once he is close enough they wouldnt have time to through Kunai to counter at which point he throws it behind them and its game over. K NOW im done :)

But they'd move backwards too.
Or, here's another idea.
They can both throw kunai from Gamaken's head, so no matter how close Minato gets, there will still be some distance between them.

Okay, anyway. Nice debate, see you around =)

[MinatoNamikaze]

But they'd move backwards too.
Or, here's another idea.
They can both throw kunai from Gamaken's head, so no matter how close Minato gets, there will still be some distance between them.

Okay, anyway. Nice debate, see you around =)

lol kk. Ya nice debate. Its nice being able to have a civil debate with someone. Nice Deabte yourself. Talk to you later:D

[ultima]

minato