Kirin vs Wind Release: Rasenshuriken

[D.I.Y Death]

Well both of these abilities are super powerful and have their pros and cons.
Pros of Wind release is it takes less chakra than Kirin, requires no prep time and not only does massive initial damage, but also does major and permanent damage afterward.
The down side it it does damage to Naruto's arm, requires two shadow clones to create the technique and is close range.

Now Kirin's pros are it is extremely powerful and while having no after effect it makes a potent single hit attack, its ranged and extremely fast once the preparations are done (can't be dodged).

Now the draw backs are it takes massive amounts of chakra to do (5 katons aren't even enough to create the massive thunder clouds needed as proven when he fought Itachi-he had to take advantage of amaretsu's heat as well and then it was only good for one shot even with all that invested chakra-), needs prep time and if the enemy survives the initial hit there is no after effects and the attack ends literally in a flash.

I say Wind Release is stronger, but it doesn't have a guarantee to connect, which makes it much harder to effectively use.

[wang tang]

Okay,if these attacks were used by somebody else than their creators,then Rasenshuriken wins,It would take too much time to charge the Krin,and it doesnt take for the Rasenshuriken to develop fully,once that happens,its over.

[vane]

Well your info about the 2 are a little off. Kirin takes almost no chakra at all and the Rasenshuriken takes massive amounts of chakra to use. You have the amount of chakra's mixed up. Because Rasengan already takes a little bit of chakra to use and to increase it with an element makes it even more chakra gone. Its just Naruto has such high reserves of chakra that it doesnt even matter.

Now Kirin takes little to no chakra to perform because of this chapter.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/390/15/

read from there to the end of the chapter. You will find out why it takes little to no chakra at all.

But it depends though. Like if it is Rasenshuriken going against Kirin then Rasenshuriken wins. But in other battles Kirin is way more effective as it takes less chakra, it is a little more poewrful, and is unavoidable. So I would say Kirin.

[D.I.Y Death]

Well your info about the 2 are a little off. Kirin takes almost no chakra at all and the Rasenshuriken takes massive amounts of chakra to use. You have the amount of chakra's mixed up. Because Rasengan already takes a little bit of chakra to use and to increase it with an element makes it even more chakra gone. Its just Naruto has such high reserves of chakra that it doesnt even matter.

Now Kirin takes little to no chakra to perform because of this chapter.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/390/15/

read from there to the end of the chapter. You will find out why it takes little to no chakra at all.

But it depends though. Like if it is Rasenshuriken going against Kirin then Rasenshuriken wins. But in other battles Kirin is way more effective as it takes less chakra, it is a little more poewrful, and is unavoidable. So I would say Kirin.
Pardon, its the CS2 fueled Katons (he needs 5 of them) that take up the chakra. Plus he needed to take advantage of the amaretsu's heat to pull it off even with those 5 katons. I totally forgot about that when I was writing about Wind Release :(
So it still takes MASSIVE chakra to pull off.

[vane]

Well I think he can still use it but with less power. Like if he just heated up the atmosphere with like 2 Katon attacks or so he can still use it but it wouldnt be as powerful. But thats more from speculation (with a minor part that half way backs it up).

But the move itself takes little to no chakra at all. But in my honest opinion it wouldnt be to hard to pull off the right conditions. Sasuke was able to do it to Itachi (even though Itachi threw the fight. Itachi still didnt know Kirin was being set up for use). Which means it can be setup and used without the opponent even knowing it is comeing. Rasenshuriken is highly noticeable. Like said in the first post it takes 2 extra kagebunshin to perform. Then they have to form it. And its hard to be able just stand there and use it when you have someone trying to attack you.

[MinatoNamikaze]

Well said. I agre with Vane. ALthgouhg I would say Kirin is an all around better attack. Its faster, unavoidable, and lethal. However it is bloackable with a good defense. Rasenshuriken is slow in comparison, definetly avoidable, and completely lethal. But is hard to block beacause it could eat through almost any defense.

[D.I.Y Death]

Well said. I agre with Vane. ALthgouhg I would say Kirin is an all around better attack. Its faster, unavoidable, and lethal. However it is bloackable with a good defense. Rasenshuriken is slow in comparison, definetly avoidable, and completely lethal. But is hard to block beacause it could eat through almost any defense.

I'll agree with that. Kirin=one hit that will most likely kill and can't be avoided but if you manage to block it somehow you're safe because there is no fallout.

Wind Release is slow, noticeable and looks like its going to hurt. But if it connects in almost any circumstance the target won't be getting up and by some miracle that they do, good luck ever using any of your limbs or chakra ever again.

But just for the sake of argument.
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Release:_Great_Dragon_Fire_Technique
Sauske needed to use that to use Kirin, furthermore to use it he needed to use his CS2 to use it which indicates it takes massive amounts of chakra especially since it alters weather. (super heating the sky with a few fireballs shaped like dragons would take shape manipulation and those babies would have to be hot enough to super heat the sky and because the potency, unlike Kirin, is based upon the users chakra it would take massive amounts of chakra to use that technique due to how hot they would have to be) I think Kirin takes just as much, if not more chakra than Wind Release due to the techniques needed to create thunder clouds. Although if Sauske fights in a thunder storm this technique is a five finger discount.

[WhiteFang]

Both attacks are pretty awesome. One of the strongest in the Narutoverse.

In a Rasenshuriken Vs Kirin situation I'd give it to Rasenshuriken as it can basically be formed faster than Kirin as no pre-requisite conditions are necessary. More importantly though, Wind>Lightning, so that wins it for FR.

Now as far as the jutsus are concerned, imo I still give it to Naruto's FR. Agreed that it is kinda slow and needs massive chakra to form, however, it is more of a mid range attack.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/340/002/
So here Yamato tells Choji to stay away due to the range of the attack. And Naruto doesn't particularly have chakra issues. I mean he has the most in the Narutoverse. Basically the main downside of Kirin is that it needs to much prep time for generating the conditions. It also took adavantage of the Amaterasu's heat which is pretty damn hot. So how strong of a Kirin can Sasuke generate without his CS powered Katon attacks and Amaterasu to assist is yet to be seen. And after all the effort, Kirin is just a one shot. Lethal, but can be used once only. Naruto on the other hand only damaged his arm after using it thrice in one day.

[Muffin]

^ I believe the damage to his arm only occurred after he actually hit the Rasenshuriken.

Plus Rasenshuriken does have a chance to actually not work if it doesn't connect fast enough.

[D.I.Y Death]

Plus Rasenshuriken does have a chance to actually not work if it doesn't connect fast enough.

Where did you see that?

[Muffin]

Where did you see that?

Right here my good man. (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/340/006-007/)

[D.I.Y Death]

Right here my good man. (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/340/006-007/)

Ah I forgot about that. Thanks.