sasuke vs sai

[Butter]

who would win


i vote sasuke

[KyubiiRage]

sasuke for simple reasons one hes got MS second he has chidori nagshi and so forth,third he has karin,fourth his speed and comabt skill are more than a match for sai

[Butter]

i said sai versus sasuke nobody else and i think sasi would be close to a tie

[MinatoNamikaze]

Easily sasuke hes already proven it

[SahnTeeAhGoh]

sasuke for simple reasons one hes got MS second he has chidori nagshi and so forth,third he has karin,fourth his speed and comabt skill are more than a match for sai


Actually... SAI was an anbu before he joined Team 7 as a replacement. His special painting skill would be to much for Sasuke, conjouring dragons in seconds as long as what ever else he coudl think of.

Sai is smart, and tactical. He would take Kari out the moment she heals Sasuke, Karin is a medicle Ninja I believe and Sasuske bit her to heal himself? Well, Sai would tkae her out; just like that. Or make some cage and trap her in it.

Sasuke might have his little MS Sharigan, and his Chidori, but Sai was raised for battle, unlike Sasuke who had to live up to Itachi.

If your going to bring Karin into this, then Yamota would only seem fair. Yamota would easily take them out, and he has knowlege and seals. Sasuke will eventually hurt Sai, but hurt him only lightly, while Sai would simply take his life.

[KyubiiRage]

But sasuke has already proven everyone that he can beat sai.didnt you see when he caught sai in his genjutsu.also let me make a reference.Sasuke beat oro .he is strong enough to beat one of the sannin.sai isnt as strong as that

[SahnTeeAhGoh]

BUT! That was because he trapped Sai in his GENJUTSU, not using any NInja advanced skills, or what so ever.

He only beat Orochimaru because Orochimaru wasn't AT full strength. He even admits it.

[ghostrider]

sasuke cause of his black chidori

[KyubiiRage]

BUT! That was because he trapped Sai in his GENJUTSU, not using any NInja advanced skills, or what so ever.

He only beat Orochimaru because Orochimaru wasn't AT full strength. He even admits it.

But how can sai beat sasuke just because he was an anbu doesnt mean that he can take out sasuke.ink wont work agianst amatetsuru will it.also we saw how fast sasuke was when he fought naruto sai wont even have time to block sasukes atack.then he saw sasuke break everyone apart with chidori nagashi and sai cant go against chidori nagashi.also what jutsu does sai have that can block karin

[nine tailed fox 099]

:sasuke: all the way

[shika2700]

Actually... SAI was an anbu before he joined Team 7 as a replacement. His special painting skill would be to much for Sasuke, conjouring dragons in seconds as long as what ever else he coudl think of.

Sai is smart, and tactical. He would take Kari out the moment she heals Sasuke, Karin is a medicle Ninja I believe and Sasuske bit her to heal himself? Well, Sai would tkae her out; just like that. Or make some cage and trap her in it.

Sasuke might have his little MS Sharigan, and his Chidori, but Sai was raised for battle, unlike Sasuke who had to live up to Itachi.

If your going to bring Karin into this, then Yamota would only seem fair. Yamota would easily take them out, and he has knowlege and seals. Sasuke will eventually hurt Sai, but hurt him only lightly, while Sai would simply take his life.

that was really funny! you call MS little?!! sasuke has beaten the 8 tailes with all it's tailes out in one MS jutsu! now tell me what can sai do against amaterasu? you know what sasuke doesn't even need MS to beat sai! (he doesn't even need help from karin why would he even need that??) and for your info genjutsu IS a real shinobi talent. itachi's best fort is genjutsu do you call his best forst non real ninja ability???!

sasuke got kirin too. with one hit sai is history! and by the way sasuke defeated orochimaru deal with it. orochimaru himself said he is nothnig compaired to sasuke! so what are you to say sasuke only won becasue oro was not at his full health? oro himself admits he's nothnig compared to sasuke.



and again sasuke has already beaten sai's ink jutsu by his physical strength alone! he destroyed sai ink snakes with so much ease even sai was amazed.

[SahnTeeAhGoh]

Yes, I call Ms little.;] Come on baby, if your going to try to rant againts me then prepare yourself!

Actually. Sasuke had his behind handed to him BY Killer Bee. Killer Bee didn't even have to TRY to kill Sasuke, but he didn't. He blasted a hole RIGHT through his neck, and his chest. Killer Bee even NEGATED the Chidori, along with Sasuke's Naga what ever it is Chidori.

And again... THE ONLY REASON Sasuke won was because of the EYE jutsu. If it wasn't for that, he would die. Sai doesn't even have to attack physically while Sasuke is hacking and slashing the snakes. Sasuke being brute he is would eventually tire out, but he was LUCKY enough to catch Sai in the MS eye jutsu. If it wasn't for that, Sai would have won, and you know that yourself.;]

[XuchihaXsasukeX]

First off it wasnt ms that sai was caught in it was just a regular sharingan jutsu... sasuke didnt have ms at the time..!!
And there is no way in hell the sai could beat sasuke.. this thread should be closed due to the fact that sasuke wins this easilyyyyyyy..

And yes he should of lost to killerbee but he didnt.. so he still beat him!

[deadman15]

The reason that Danzou sent Sai to kill Sasuke is proof enough that he is a match.And dont you remember Sai broke out of the Genjutsu.

[SahnTeeAhGoh]

First off it wasnt ms that sai was caught in it was just a regular sharingan jutsu... sasuke didnt have ms at the time..!!
And there is no way in hell the sai could beat sasuke.. this thread should be closed due to the fact that sasuke wins this easilyyyyyyy..

And yes he should of lost to killerbee but he didnt.. so he still beat him!


None the less, it's a Genjutsu. That being the main reason he won the fight, your right.. You got me on the MS part, but not the genjutsu, any genjutsu in potent. Sai outmatches Sasuke in tactics, which is what all you need to win a battle. If it wasn't for his Sharigan, we all know that Sasuke would have lost the battle, period. I'm not saying just because characters have special things doesn't make them weak, i'm just saying that towards Sasuke. Neji could still beat a pretty good amount of butt without his byakugan. But in that one PARTICULAR battle, it was the Sharigan that did it, not Sasuke.

[Butter]

:sasuke: all the way

be more specific because people wont uderstand naruto more so please be more specific


and i agree with sah somethin because i saw that oro wasnt at full strenght

[shika2700]

Yes, I call Ms little.;] Come on baby, if you’re going to try to rant againts me then prepare yourself!

I’m ready! I was born ready ^_^ and calling MS little makes you bias because it’s clear to me now you are not saying the truth you are just making your emotion take over your judgment. The uchiha was the strongest clan in the world! And that was by using only two MS! So go read the manga before saying wrong things like MS is little.

Actually. Sasuke had his behind handed to him BY Killer Bee. Killer Bee didn't even have to TRY to kill Sasuke, but he didn't. He blasted a hole RIGHT through his neck, and his chest. Killer Bee even NEGATED the Chidori, along with Sasuke's Naga what ever it is Chidori.

First off this is sasuke VS sai so what does killer bee has to do with anything? Anyway the first time sasuke got hit his sharingan wasn’t even activated. He activated it AFTER he got hit. If sasuke was in sharingan mode from the start he would have predict it and avoid it. and killerbee is from the lighting country and the brother of the raikage himself it will be funny if sasuke beat him with lighting (then again sasuke CUT one of the 8TAILES tails with his chidori. and sasuke even used chidori to make all killerbee's swords not hit sasuke's vital points.
Now the second time sasuke got hit he didn’t expect the 8 tails to get out of the genjutsu too fast.and sasuke was trying to defend his team too.
if sasuke knew from the start that he has the ability to stop amaterasu he would have used it from the start and finished the fight in a minute. He wouldn’t have needed his whole team at all. the fight would have taken one minute and sasuke wounldn't have a scratch on him.



And again... THE ONLY REASON Sasuke won was because of the EYE jutsu. If it wasn't for that, he would die.

So what? The eye is his weapon. Neji use nothing but his own eye jutsu does that make him not a ninja? the same as sai using his ink all the time. So what’s your point? Sasuke would have won in one minute if he had experienced using his new eye just once!

And by the way tell me how could sai avoid kirin huh? It’s not an eye jutsu and the manga makes it clear how powerful it is. here is proof from the manga:

First off it doesn’t even need chakra:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/390/16/
here zetsu said that kirin is on a completely different scales than what humans can do with their power or nature manipulation. It means it’s stronger than any jutsu a human can do with his own power. (the 8 tails with all his tails out couldn’t do a thing to amaterasu so think how powerful kirin is) itachi was only able to block it because he got the mirror (the strongest defense there is and yet he still got some burns and his clock was fried) itachi himself admits how powerful kirin was and how he would have died without the mirror.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/391/05/
here sasuke said kirin’s power is lighting from heaven itself. And zetsu said “there is no dodging that because lighting can reach the ground in 1\1000 of a second. It’s hundreds times faster than the speed of sound!” so this is the manga saying it.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/391/07/

now sai can do NOTHNIG against kirin. it will kill him and it’s not an eye jutsu.

Now let’s see how sai fights. He fights with ink and paper right? He uses paper to fight and guess what sasuke will do? just use one of his LONG RANGE fire jutsu and burn sai’s paper every time. What will sai do next? Sasuke can fight close mid and long range. He was able to stop sai’s ink jutsu while he was resting in bed! He even has his back to sai!


Sai doesn't even have to attack physically while Sasuke is hacking and slashing the snakes. Sasuke being brute he is would eventually tire out, but he was LUCKY enough to catch Sai in the MS eye jutsu. If it wasn't for that, Sai would have won, and you know that yourself.;]



What?? Sasuke didn’t even move from his spot when sai used his ink because sasuke can easily avoid it. sasuke has incredible speed! what makes think sai can even get him with his ink jutsu? Even deidara with fast and devastating explosive admits how fast sasuke is to avoid his explosive! And by the way sasuke didn’t have his MS here he caught sai in his NORMAL sharingan genjutsu and sai was so afraid that he even swet! Sai himself said for someone who doesn’t even have emotions like sai it was really impressive how sasuke made him scared with just a LOOK from his eyes.

So sai has no chance. Sasuke doesn’t even need his MS to beat sai. He will beat him with his fire jutsu and lighting jutsu and kirin and speed. he doesn’t even need his sharingan.


The reason that Danzou sent Sai to kill Sasuke is proof enough that he is a match. And dont you remember Sai broke out of the Genjutsu.

Sai broke out of nothing. Sasuke let him out of the genjutsu and sai was thrown to the ground from fear! Go read it yourself! And danzo doesn’t know a thing about how powerful sasuke has become. Sending sai to kill sasuke does not mean sai can kill sasuke that logic is wrong. I already proved to you sai can nothing against sasuke powerful jutsus. And sasuke can easily burn the paper sai is going to use to draw. Sasuke has even beaten sai’s ink jutsu while he’s in bed! With his back to sai.


Sai outmatches Sasuke in tactics, which is what all you need to win a battle.

What?? Where did you get that sai outmatches sasuke in tecs? For your info the manga already said sasuke learned all orochimaru’s jutsus! Oro lived his life to collect jutsus from all over the world! No one have more jutsus than oro! And now sasuke have them all (minus the ones that oro got by merging himself with a snake) anyway to make you believe how good sasuke is in ninjutsu in the third guide book sasuke got 5 out 5 points in ninjutsu! Meaning he COMPELETLY mastered ninjutsu! Want proof? Here you go . this is sasuke’s stats from the third guide book:

(the points goes from 1 to 5 the category that gets five points means that the character has fully mastered this category)

sasuke


-Ninjutsu 5
-Taijutsu 3.5
-Genjutsu 4
-Intelligence 3.5
-(Physical) Strength 3.5
-Speed 4.5
-Stamina 3.5
-Seals 4

Here is a link too:
here is sasuke's stats (the third ninja ability star. every circle makes a point so count how many circles are colored with white and give every circle a point and you will have the number of the character ability in the eight categories by the order ninjutsu, taijutsu, genjutsu, Intelligence, (Physical) Strength, Speed, Stamina, Seals.

http://www.leafninja.com/fullbio.php?p=Uchiha_Sasuke

so please when you talk about things you have to prove them. Sasuke is better in ninjutsu than sai. Sasuke fully mastered ninjutsu.


If it wasn't for his Sharigan, we all know that Sasuke would have lost the battle, period.

Why would you even talk about sasuke’s sharingan? That sharingan is his BLOOD! He was BORN with that blood! If you want to take sasuke’s sharingan you should take sai’s ink too! And for your info sasuke can beat sai without even sharingan! He can use fire to burn sai’s papers. He can use his speed to avoid other jutsus and he can use kirin and chidori to kill him at the end all that WITHOUT sasuke’s sharingan!
You talk like sasuke can do nothing without his sharingasn while he’s the ONLY character with blood line limite that uses speed and taijutsu and all kind of ninjutsu and doesn’t count 100% on his blood line limit (like neji all his jutsu are from his blood line, so is haku even itachi!) people wining because of their blood line limit does not degrade them as ninjas! This is their talent they were born with it like other were born with large chakra (naruto,kisame) or a talent with drawing (like sai) or talent with chakra control (like sakura) stop degrading sasuke. Even madara NEEDS him for something!
Sasuke will beat sai without using the sharingan. Prove me wrong if you can ^_^




Neji could still beat a pretty good amount of butt without his byakugan.

When did that happen? His almost 360 degrees of sight is his byakugan. His ability to see tenkutsu is his byakugan. His defense kaiten is because of his byakugan. So when did neji beat someone without byakugan? Don’t say wrong things please. This never happened! Neji ALWAYS uses his byakugan. Haku did too and even itachi!



and I agree with sah somethin because i saw that oro wasnt at full strength

it doesn’t matter if oro was full strength! Oro wants sasuke’s body just like he wanted itachi’s body! Both itachi and sasuke has defeated him the SAME WAY! Even if oro was full health he would have used the same soul transfere jutsu and sasuke would have defeated him! and by the way! Oro himself said he was nothing compared to sasuke! And what does that have to do with sasuke VS sai? I already proved sai will be beaten badly by sasuke even without the sharingan^_^

[KyubiiRage]

Im not gonna quote against what shika said but i agree lke i said before karin will destroy sai

[shika2700]

Last time I only put sasuke’s stats now I will put both their stats with their total points ^_^:

sasuke


-Ninjutsu 5
-Taijutsu 3.5
-Genjutsu 4
-Intelligence 3.5
-(Physical) Strength 3.5
-Speed 4.5
-Stamina 3.5
-Seals 4

Total points: 31.5

sai

-Ninjutsu 4
-Taijutsu 3.5
-Genjutsu 3
-Intelligence 3
-(Physical) Strength 3
-Speed 3.5
-Stamina 3.5
-Seals 4

Total points: 27.5



Now the scans that proves the stats I put ^_^ here is a scan for all the characters stats (minus pain and madara the third book didn’t give stats on them) it’s going from the weakest to the strongest ^_^ here is the link:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/241/charstatsfromweakesttoscs5.th.png (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=charstatsfromweakesttoscs5.png)

http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=charstatsfromweakesttoscs5.png


Now the scan that proves that Kirin is an S rank jutsu (the rank is at the top of the page on the right side ^_^) here is the link:



http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6325/kirinsrankva2.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kirinsrankva2.jpg)



http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kirinsrankva2.jpg

[NS69]

Sasuke is much stronger than Sai .

so Sasuke will win , and it will not take long to win . he'll beat sasuke in short time .

[NS69]

^ yeah he is .

I can't believe some people actually voted for Sai .

sasuke in current state is much stronger than Sai , so Sai is no match for him .