Neji vs. Kimmimaru (OFFICIAL THREAD)

[Sasori[RedSand]]

So guys i really wanna hear your thinkings on this match

[Deadlocked]

Hmm. I always pull this one out with Neji..but like he said, he can destroy anything with chakra in it, INCLUDING Kimimaro's bones. Without his bones, no more Kimimaro.

[Xinobi]

I am willing to say that as well. Bone manipulation takes chakra. Anyone who isn't a ranged pin point fighter like Kidomaru is going to have problems with Neji.

[Uchiha-Shinobi]

kimmi no contest dude he has curse mark and sarawabi

[Deadlocked]

Doesn't matter, If Neji shuts off his bone chakra, he can't do anything.

[Summer.]

yeah, but just IF he's able to do that. kimimaro's bones are like everywhere xDD
it would be tough battle for kimimaro AND neji. I actually have no idea who would win.

[Xinobi]

I would venture to say bone can not stop chakra penetration.

[majinsharingan]

kimmi no contest dude he has curse mark and sarawabi

Okay The Curse Mark is not god. Get over it it doesn't make you invincible.

Kimimaru would win.
He fights with his BONES.
It takes chakra but he Neji gets close he will attack with BONES.
Bones aren't made of chakra.
He can't hit them.
Also Kimimaru's final attack would beat Neji so easy.
Only people with the ability to levitate on something can escape that attack.
Kimimaru ftw.

[ChObO]

Okay The Curse Mark is not god. Get over it it doesn't make you invincible.

Kimimaru would win.
He fights with his BONES.
It takes chakra but he Neji gets close he will attack with BONES.
Bones aren't made of chakra.
He can't hit them.
Also Kimimaru's final attack would beat Neji so easy.
Only people with the ability to levitate on something can escape that attack.
Kimimaru ftw.

CORRECT! You get a cookie. ^^
*Gives cookie*

Kimmimarus bones are made of chakra though. He uses his chakra with his blood line limit.

[majinsharingan]

Yes but their bones, their solid. If there's no chakra in the bones, oh well... move some more into the bones.
Also Curse Seal Level 2 gives him like 3 times more Chakra and power than before.
Don't say I'm wrong :p
Kakashi said that Sasuke would die from using Chidori three times.
He used it three times, the third time in Level 2, and he was somewhat fine.

[Xinobi]

I do not agree. Nothing, not even the 9 tailed fox could penetrate the kaiten. Why would you think his bones can? Also with his Byakugan he is the ultimate Taijutsu user.

[jiraiya_sama]

hmm well i would say neji would win he would just use byakugan see what part of kimimaros is being effected by his disease 8 trigram 64 palm all the chakra points surrounding the disease no chakra to help fight it off he is a dead man in no time.i dont know whether byakugan can even see the disease or not but we all know that most likly in the show he would be able to and kimimaro would die at his feet

[Deadlocked]

Okay The Curse Mark is not god. Get over it it doesn't make you invincible.

Kimimaru would win.
He fights with his BONES.
It takes chakra but he Neji gets close he will attack with BONES.
Bones aren't made of chakra.
He can't hit them.
Also Kimimaru's final attack would beat Neji so easy.
Only people with the ability to levitate on something can escape that attack.
Kimimaru ftw.
Yes, they're not made of chakra. But they have chakra IN them.
Neji could simply not attack. Kimimaro would get restless and then he'd attack with his bones somehow. Rotation, then his bones are damaged.

[Sasori[RedSand]]

tough battle keep going guys u all have nice arguments

[Deadlocked]

Xinobi and myself can pretty much counter any Neji argument.

[Sasori[RedSand]]

hehe i agree with u 2 guys neji and sasori are my favorite chars i think neji harichakra needles can go through kimimaro bones

[majinsharingan]

I do not agree. Nothing, not even the 9 tailed fox could penetrate the kaiten. Why would you think his bones can? Also with his Byakugan he is the ultimate Taijutsu user.

BECAUSE BONES ARE BONES!!!!!
Also the nine-tails didn't try.
Kimimaru would win.
Think about what's in Kimimaru's arsenal.
As soon as he goes into Curse Mark Level 2 and goes into long range, Neji is dead.

[Xinobi]

I still do not buy it. I can not agree with you. You really think Kimimaru would go curse mark 2 or would even have the chance to? Kimimaru is pretty damn good at Taijutsu but I would say Neji is leaps and bounds better. I never seen anyone get the better of Neji in Taijutsu. Also Neji does have a ranged attack. If Kimimaru does his thing where bones shoot out of the ground who is to say Neji could not see it? He can see through rock, walls, anything. He would also be able to tell where he is going to get attacked from. I will stand by the comment that if the Byakugan can see it then he will be prepared for it.

[majinsharingan]

I still do not buy it. I can not agree with you. You really think Kimimaru would go curse mark 2 or would even have the chance to? Kimimaru is pretty damn good at Taijutsu but I would say Neji is leaps and bounds better. I never seen anyone get the better of Neji in Taijutsu. Also Neji does have a ranged attack. If Kimimaru does his thing where bones shoot out of the ground who is to say Neji could not see it? He can see through rock, walls, anything. He would also be able to tell where he is going to get attacked from. I will stand by the comment that if the Byakugan can see it then he will be prepared for it.

Wow...Okay...
Um try this okay?
CAN NEJI F**KING FLY!

Also neji got the better of Neji in Taijutsu.
NARUTO got the better of Neji in Taijutsu.

Kimimaru is the strongest of the sound 5.
He nearly killed Gaara.
He survived being crushed under tons(weight meaning) of sand, and the unbeatable sand coffin.
Also...Dance of the Seedling Ferns!
LETS SEE NEJI DODGE THAT.

[Xinobi]

He is a Ninja right? I stand by the saying if a Byakugan user can see it then they should be prepared for it. He could easily jump on a spike and ride it to the top couldn't he?

Also Naruto is hardly better at Taijutsu than Neji. If you are counting that punch then you are sadly mistaken.

I am not sure what you mean when you say that NEJI GOT BETTER THAN NEJI in Taijutsu. What do you mean?

I am not giving on this with what you got right now... :)
You have to come much better than that.

Anyone who cancels out chakra, disables chakra flow and can damn near see anything is going to be hard to beat in my book.

[majinsharingan]

He is a Ninja right? I stand by the saying if a Byakugan user can see it then they should be prepared for it. He could easily jump on a spike and ride it to the top couldn't he?

Also Naruto is hardly better at Taijutsu than Neji. If you are counting that punch then you are sadly mistaken.

I am not sure what you mean when you say that NEJI GOT BETTER THAN NEJI in Taijutsu. What do you mean?

I am not giving on this with what you got right now... :)
You have to come much better than that.

Anyone who cancels out chakra, disables chakra flow and can damn near see anything is going to be hard to beat in my book.


Okay no, Dance of the Seedling Ferns it basically unbeatable, the only reason Kimimaru lost is because of sudden heart failure.
Also no he can't just ride of up the spike, Kimimaru is IN THE SPIKE!

Also I'm not counting the punch, that was strategy, I'm counting most of Episode 62.

I meant that Neji beat himself in Taijutsu, Fake Neji beat real Neji.


Kimimaru would win.
He has two incredibly storng long range moves, another long range move.
He has a lot of close range moves but with his bones all sticking out(dance of the willows, dance of the pines), and he can dodge Neji's attacks, he has a lot of chakra and knows about the Hyuga clan from Orochimaru. And I have one more trump card...

[Xinobi]

Okay no, Dance of the Seedling Ferns it basically unbeatable, the only reason Kimimaru lost is because of sudden heart failure.
Also no he can't just ride of up the spike, Kimimaru is IN THE SPIKE!

So you are saying that Neji wouldn't be able to see inside the spike when he can see into anything else? Whoah, what a statement that is. While I do agree that Kimimaru shouldn't have lost, you know that was a plot twist. But if Neji can see inside and through anything why would that scenario NOT work? If you see it coming and YOU ARE A NINJA you are naturally going to react more quickly when you see the attack coming.

Also I'm not counting the punch, that was strategy, I'm counting most of Episode 62.

Naruto winning was a plot twist too and if you call that strategy then I guess I can accept that. Shame on Neji for letting his gaurd down. But by no stretch of the Imagination are ANY of the Konoha 11 better than Neji at Taijutsu. That will remain unchanged and set in stone.

I meant that Neji beat himself in Taijutsu, Fake Neji beat real Neji.

Fake Neji did not beat Real Neji and that was also a plot twist so do not read too much into that. You saw Neji getting tired but not getting hit. Also the fake Neji never got tired. You basically have a perfect Neji and you see the real Neji won with his ranged attack. I guess you were watching a different version of that episode.

Kimimaru would win.
He has two incredibly storng long range moves, another long range move.
He has a lot of close range moves but with his bones all sticking out(dance of the willows, dance of the pines), and he can dodge Neji's attacks, he has a lot of chakra and knows about the Hyuga clan from Orochimaru. And I have one more trump card...

How does he know ANYTHING about the Hyuuga clan? That is your opinion because Kimimaru did not say anything about any Hyuuga member. He did not mention anything about the Byakugan. When have you seen Neji miss physical contact? There is NO dodging, every nick or scrap causes damage to your chakra circulatory system which is tightly bound to your Internal Circulatory system.

I would even venture to say that the fight wouldn't even get as far as Curse Mark 2.

You are not making a dent in my arguement in my eyes :)

Don't get upset though, I am enjoying myself.

[Deadlocked]

He avoided Sand Coffin because he used bone masks. That can't defend against Neji. He could still shut off the chakra in his bones. If he does that quickly enough, he can't use Seedling Fern. Plus, how would he extend his bones, stick them into the ground, spread them out, and push them up before Neji can do anything?

[majinsharingan]

So you are saying that Neji wouldn't be able to see inside the spike when he can see into anything else? Whoah, what a statement that is. While I do agree that Kimimaru shouldn't have lost, you know that was a plot twist. But if Neji can see inside and through anything why would that scenario NOT work? If you see it coming and YOU ARE A NINJA you are naturally going to react more quickly when you see the attack coming.

Yes, but he can move faster inside the spikes, and Neji would be surrounded completely, all it takes is one fake attack, then swoop back in for the real one. Also just for the record Neji would have a chance to dodge the final attack of the seedling fern, the primary attack would kill him, millions of spikes shooting out of the ground, even if you see it coming, you can't fly.


How does he know ANYTHING about the Hyuuga clan? That is your opinion because Kimimaru did not say anything about any Hyuuga member. He did not mention anything about the Byakugan. When have you seen Neji miss physical contact? There is NO dodging, every nick or scrap causes damage to your chakra circulatory system which is tightly bound to your Internal Circulatory system.

Orochimaru. You think he would send his ninja into Konoha without informing them of what lies ahead, also, Hyuga is the most presteige clan in Konoha, everyone knows something about it, but Orochimaru knows a lot.
When have seen Lee huh? Lee landed one hit on Kimimaru. Gaara landed three. GAARA. Also it's not the circulatory system, it's the chakra system(let's call it that not to confuse me and others with the circulatory like blood and heart stuff kay?). Kimimaru can dodge Lee's attacks, he's fast.
Also his bones stick out making it harder for Neji to attack, then, he curves them making it even harder for contact. And as another thing...Kimimaru has the uncanny ability to bring his bones to the surface so he can block Neji's attack like that...now we play the waiting game.

I would even venture to say that the fight wouldn't even get as far as Curse Mark 2.

Now that's a huge over statement.
You have too much faith in him.
Lee was the first one to have a fight with Gaara go on for so long.
Kimimaru held him for twice as long as that.
Lee went all out and didn't do crap to Gaara, he made himself stronger than anyone in that room including the Hokage. 5 Gates is almost invincible. Gaara wasn't phased, he got up after the attack and walked away. Kimimaru pushed Gaara to the edge and nearly killed him. Your severely underestimating Kimimaru.

You are not making a dent in my arguement in my eyes :)

Don't get upset though, I am enjoying myself.

Oh ho me too.
And I'm waiting for it...

[Deadlocked]

I didn't see a counter-argument to my statement. I believe my statement could wrap up this fight..

[Xinobi]

Yes, but he can move faster inside the spikes, and Neji would be surrounded completely, all it takes is one fake attack, then swoop back in for the real one. Also just for the record Neji would have a chance to dodge the final attack of the seedling fern, the primary attack would kill him, millions of spikes shooting out of the ground, even if you see it coming, you can't fly.

Yeah 1000's of spikes were flying out of the ground but when they were high in the sky they were separated and there was a LOT of space. I am also telling you it would not get that far. Neji does not have an attack that would send anyone deep in the earth. That attack is a non issue unless Kimimaru does that to himself.


Orochimaru. You think he would send his ninja into Konoha without informing them of what lies ahead, also, Hyuga is the most presteige clan in Konoha, everyone knows something about it, but Orochimaru knows a lot.
When have seen Lee huh? Lee landed one hit on Kimimaru. Gaara landed three. GAARA. Also it's not the circulatory system, it's the chakra system(let's call it that not to confuse me and others with the circulatory like blood and heart stuff kay?). Kimimaru can dodge Lee's attacks, he's fast.
Also his bones stick out making it harder for Neji to attack, then, he curves them making it even harder for contact. And as another thing...Kimimaru has the uncanny ability to bring his bones to the surface so he can block Neji's attack like that...now we play the waiting game.

Kidomaru didn't know anything about the Byakugan. He has to learn how to deal with it on his own. Lee does not have anything on Neji. IT is the chakra circulatory system and that is what I am going to call it. If anyone does not understand then read this wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kekkei_genkai#Byakugan). He could dodge Lee's attacks because they are predictable. He even said it. I doubt he EVER fought a Jyuuken User. Unless he is going to start out the battle with his bones out then I doubt that he would even get the chance to get that far. Before Kimimaru knows what is happening a 3rd of his chakra points will be turned off. And guess what! He does not have the help of a demon inside him to turn them back on. You assume too much for Kimimaru. You do not even know if him putting bones in the way will stop it.

Now that's a huge over statement.
You have too much faith in him.
Lee was the first one to have a fight with Gaara go on for so long.
Kimimaru held him for twice as long as that.
Lee went all out and didn't do crap to Gaara, he made himself stronger than anyone in that room including the Hokage. 5 Gates is almost invincible. Gaara wasn't phased, he got up after the attack and walked away. Kimimaru pushed Gaara to the edge and nearly killed him. Your severely underestimating Kimimaru.

Don't compare Lee to Neji, just don't. I am not underestimating anything. You are not being realistic.

[majinsharingan]

Yeah 1000's of spikes were flying out of the ground but when they were high in the sky they were separated and there was a LOT of space. I am also telling you it would not get that far. Neji does not have an attack that would send anyone deep in the earth. That attack is a non issue unless Kimimaru does that to himself.




Kidomaru didn't know anything about the Byakugan. He has to learn how to deal with it on his own. Lee does not have anything on Neji. IT is the chakra circulatory system and that is what I am going to call it. If anyone does not understand then read this wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kekkei_genkai#Byakugan). He could dodge Lee's attacks because they are predictable. He even said it. I doubt he EVER fought a Jyuuken User. Unless he is going to start out the battle with his bones out then I doubt that he would even get the chance to get that far. Before Kimimaru knows what is happening a 3rd of his chakra points will be turned off. And guess what! He does not have the help of a demon inside him to turn them back on. You assume too much for Kimimaru. You do not even know if him putting bones in the way will stop it.



Don't compare Lee to Neji, just don't. I am not underestimating anything. You are not being realistic.

I'm being completely realistic.
Your being completely over---...non...realistic.
Although i just realized this was in subbed a few minutes ago, everything I've said's been true.
Also there weren't far apart.
Also Neji can't move very well in between all those spikes BOOM he's dead.
Bones, no chakra points, Kimimaru uses those, BOOM, advantage.
Neji's ultimate defense, BOOM kimimaru fights close range.
Neji tries to go long range, BOOM Kimimaru's ultimate defense.
Neji starts turning up the heat, BOOM Kimimaru does the same.
It takes about 10 seconds to get to Curse Mark Level 2.
your saying it will end that quick, then i should just stop now cause this isn't worth it if your saying that.

[Deadlocked]

DUDE. Stop saying he can use his bones to attack without chakra! IT's impossible. That's like saying the guy that Kankuro fought in the Chuunin exams can stretch his body without chakra.

[Xinobi]

I'm being completely realistic.
Your being completely over---...non...realistic.
Although i just realized this was in subbed a few minutes ago, everything I've said's been true.
Also there weren't far apart.
Also Neji can't move very well in between all those spikes BOOM he's dead.
Bones, no chakra points, Kimimaru uses those, BOOM, advantage.
Neji's ultimate defense, BOOM kimimaru fights close range.
Neji tries to go long range, BOOM Kimimaru's ultimate defense.
Neji starts turning up the heat, BOOM Kimimaru does the same.
It takes about 10 seconds to get to Curse Mark Level 2.
your saying it will end that quick, then i should just stop now cause this isn't worth it if your saying that.

Hinata was fighting and then all of the sudden she realized that her chakra points in her arms were shut off. Why would you think this would be any different? You are going directly for the jugular so I am not really entertaining that part. You are assuming that Kimimaru knows everything about Neji and the Byakugan. That is a big assumption so I said what you are saying is unrealistic because it really is. Even if he does go CM2 you still have chakra points. By that time I gaurentee a 3rd will be shut off. I am judging this from the fights I have seen them both in. Kimimaru didn't start going bone crazy until Lee was drunk and started getting the better of him. When Gaara hit the scene he went CM2 pretty quick didn't he?

You are going nuts and bringing out the heavy guns before they even learn each other. Neji goes for the chakra points FROM THE START.

[majinsharingan]

You are going nuts and bringing out the heavy guns before they even learn each other. Neji goes for the chakra points FROM THE START.

Thank you. I've been waiting for that comment the entire time.
Bones. He can bring them to the outside of his body. Once he learns what Neji does, or if he already does, all he has to do is bring his bones to the outside of his body or above the chakra system and he'll be fine.

DUDE. Stop saying he can use his bones to attack without chakra! IT's impossible. That's like saying the guy that Kankuro fought in the Chuunin exams can stretch his body without chakra.

I'm not. I pointed out something that could be Neji's downfall against him. Kimimaru can bring his bones to the surface, meaning on the outside of his body.
Now I'm not saying it doesn't take chakra, i'm saying that Neji's Gentle Fist style dies there, because he presses CHAKRA POINTS there are no chakra points inside the bones.

[Summer.]

hey hey, can I ask something??? (I don't know, maybe you already explained that, I didn't read all conversation xDD)

HOW could neji even hit those small chakra points if bones would be everywhere?
I mean... he couldn't do that unless if kimimaru would be really careless (he couldn't to get near of him if there would be half meter of bones everywhere around kimimaru...).

[majinsharingan]

Thank you, my exact point, also why are you never online? Your always invisible.

[Deadlocked]

I'm not. I pointed out something that could be Neji's downfall against him. Kimimaru can bring his bones to the surface, meaning on the outside of his body.
Now I'm not saying it doesn't take chakra, i'm saying that Neji's Gentle Fist style dies there, because he presses CHAKRA POINTS there are no chakra points inside the bones.
He can also stop chakra flow. Plus, doesn't everything with chakra have chakra points?

[Summer.]

Thank you, my exact point, also why are you never online? Your always invisible.

I know xDDD
but idk why, I guess I just feel more comfortable being invisible xDD
maybe I will change this option =P

[majinsharingan]

He can also stop chakra flow. Plus, doesn't everything with chakra have chakra points?

No.
Only people have a chakra network.
That's Neji's strength he's the only one that can see the chakra points, but If Kimimaru moves his bones above the chakra system, Neji can't do that,

[Summer.]

No.
Only people have a chakra network.
That's Neji's strength he's the only one that can see the chakra points, but If Kimimaru moves his bones above the chakra system, Neji can't do that,

agree

and also remember when kimimaru made that 'bone-shield' (or something xDDD) right under his skin.
if he would do that than neji's movements wouldn't have any effect at all.
-it's similar to kidomaru's golden-shield...

[majinsharingan]

agree

and also remember when kimimaru made that 'bone-shield' (or something xDDD) right under his skin.
if he would do that than neji's movements wouldn't have any effect at all.
-it's similar to kidomaru's golden-shield...

RIGHT! Neji can't break through that either, Gaara's Sand Burial Didn't work against it, neither did Sand Requiem.

[Deadlocked]

The bones are a part of Kimimaro, so they have a chakra network. He can shut them off.

[majinsharingan]

The bones are a part of Kimimaro, so they have a chakra network. He can shut them off.

No he can't.
You only have one chakra network.
The bones are in the chakra network, the bones aren't the chakra network.
The bones are just bones.
But he moves them in front of the chakra network and Neji can't press them.

[Summer.]

The bones are a part of Kimimaro, so they have a chakra network. He can shut them off.

well, gaara's sand has chakra in it too, but he didn't break through that shield...

[majinsharingan]

exactly

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ga/2007/ga070910.gif

LMAO!!!!!

[Xinobi]

You do not know that chakra is NOT in the bones, do you? How do you know the bones would stop the chakra flow to the chakra points? You do not know that. There in lies the stalemate of this conversation. I say that it can go through. You are also assuming that Kimimaru would have the mental intelligence to know what is going on when the fight begins. You have no idea. Chakra points are not in the bones, correct. But chakra is a force INSIDE the bones thus making it vulnerable. SOMETHING is making the bone hard correct?

[majinsharingan]

You do not know that chakra is NOT in the bones, do you? How do you know the bones would stop the chakra flow to the chakra points? You do not know that. There in lies the stalemate of this conversation. I say that it can go through. You are also assuming that Kimimaru would have the mental intelligence to know what is going on when the fight begins. You have no idea. Chakra points are not in the bones, correct. But chakra is a force INSIDE the bones thus making it vulnerable. SOMETHING is making the bone hard correct?

Not chakra. Though. You want proof. Hit your elbow against the desk, does it sink in?
Chakra is not inside the bones for one.
For two, that's your second mistake there.
Neji does not stop chakra, he stops the flow of chakra. The problem with that is, if for say chakra was indeed in the bones it is not flowing, it is reinforcing, no points, no flow. His job is already done therefore it does not affect it.
Also, no i'm not assuming now. I've got it all cleared up now, final piece of the puzzle. The Gaara fight, Kimimaru is smart, he knew what Gaara was planning inside the coffin and reinforced himself with bone. Also i do know the chakra is not in the bones, there's not chakra points in the bone and no chakra flow, it's called bone manipulation, you don't already have your bones with chakra in them and use them, no you use your chakra. You don't already have the fire, no you use your chakra.

[Summer.]

Not chakra. Though. You want proof. Hit your elbow against the desk, does it sink in?
Chakra is not inside the bones for one.
For two, that's your second mistake there.
Neji does not stop chakra, he stops the flow of chakra. The problem with that is, if for say chakra was indeed in the bones it is not flowing, it is reinforcing, no points, no flow. His job is already done therefore it does not affect it.
Also, no i'm not assuming now. I've got it all cleared up now, final piece of the puzzle. The Gaara fight, Kimimaru is smart, he knew what Gaara was planning inside the coffin and reinforced himself with bone. Also i do know the chakra is not in the bones, there's not chakra points in the bone and no chakra flow, it's called bone manipulation, you don't already have your bones with chakra in them and use them, no you use your chakra. You don't already have the fire, no you use your chakra.

precisely!

there is no points, no holes, so the fact is that neji CAN'T hit those small points (even if there is no bones he needs to be extremely exact when he hit them, otherwise there's no effect).

[majinsharingan]

precisely!

there is no points, no holes, so the fact is that neji CAN'T hit those small points (even if there is no bones he needs to be extremely exact when he hit them, otherwise there's no effect).

Correct, so far he's hit Kimimaru and Naruto who were basically still.
Kimmimaru is very active and moving, he's too smart to let his opponent get close and just stand there.

[Xinobi]

Correct, so far he's hit Kimimaru and Naruto who were basically still.
Kimmimaru is very active and moving, he's too smart to let his opponent get close and just stand there.

You are not understanding my arguement. To create new bones you need chakra to flow through them. Neji can stop the flow of chakra through anything.

Do not believe me? He was able to sever Kidomaru's webs and in them flowed chakra.
When Neji was stuck in Kisame's water prison he disrupted the flow of chakra through the water prison.
You are saying he is just going to create bones from NOTHING? It is going to take chakra because EVERYTHING done in the ninja world takes chakra.
As long as the flow of chakra is involved it can be disrupted or stopped all together.
Since that is an absolute in this equation this fight is pretty much done.
I can see the bone bullets not having chakra because they are no longer connected but anything connected to him has to take chakra. I would also be willing to say that maybe his basic bones to not have chakra flowing through them but I bet you any amount of money it takes chakra to create new bones and reconstruct the bones INSIDE his body.

This is all natural to Neji so it is not an issue to shut down an opponent. Since Kimimaru is sick to begin with what makes you think one hit to the chest will not end him?

I had to throw that jab in there. But for real, even if he was not sick I do not think Kimimaru would win. Hell, it might be a good fight but I think Neji is the worst possible opponent for Kimimaru. Look at who they pit Neji up against...
Naruto and his 1000s of shadow clones... (fixed fight if you ask me, I do not care what anyone says, Neji would have owned him if Masashi didn't want to change Neji's outlook on life for character development. There is NO WAY in hell he would have won other wise, especially when Sasuke at Curse Mark 2 whooped his butt.)
Kidomaru and his 5489543905584954 spiders, sticky webs restricting movement and special skin film that absorbed chakra hits (AND HE STILL WON!)
And himself, a fake Neji that does not get tired... (Which he still won)

[majinsharingan]

You are not understanding my arguement. To create new bones you need chakra to flow through them. Neji can stop the flow of chakra through anything.

Do not believe me? He was able to sever Kidomaru's webs and in them flowed chakra.
When Neji was stuck in Kisame's water prison he disrupted the flow of chakra through the water prison.
You are saying he is just going to create bones from NOTHING? It is going to take chakra because EVERYTHING done in the ninja world takes chakra.
As long as the flow of chakra is involved it can be disrupted or stopped all together.
Since that is an absolute in this equation this fight is pretty much done.
I can see the bone bullets not having chakra because they are no longer connected but anything connected to him has to take chakra. I would also be willing to say that maybe his basic bones to not have chakra flowing through them but I bet you any amount of money it takes chakra to create new bones and reconstruct the bones INSIDE his body.

This is all natural to Neji so it is not an issue to shut down an opponent. Since Kimimaru is sick to begin with what makes you think one hit to the chest will not end him?

I had to throw that jab in there. But for real, even if he was not sick I do not think Kimimaru would win. Hell, it might be a good fight but I think Neji is the worst possible opponent for Kimimaru. Look at who they pit Neji up against...
Naruto and his 1000s of shadow clones... (fixed fight if you ask me, I do not care what anyone says, Neji would have owned him if Masashi didn't want to change Neji's outlook on life for character development. There is NO WAY in hell he would have won other wise, especially when Sasuke at Curse Mark 2 whooped his butt.)
Kidomaru and his 5489543905584954 spiders, sticky webs restricting movement and special skin film that absorbed chakra hits (AND HE STILL WON!)
And himself, a fake Neji that does not get tired... (Which he still won)

Too long for me to read.
Um. The webs were completely different, he didn't cut off Kidomaru's chakra supply with the webs, also webs are barely solid. Bones, are attached to Kimimaru, and are the definition of solid.

[Xinobi]

Too long for me to read.
Um. The webs were completely different, he didn't cut off Kidomaru's chakra supply with the webs, also webs are barely solid. Bones, are attached to Kimimaru, and are the definition of solid.

That is no fair! I read all your stuff...

No seriously. Read it. Don't breeze. Read and UNDERSTAND...

[Summer.]

You are not understanding my arguement. To create new bones you need chakra to flow through them. Neji can stop the flow of chakra through anything.

Do not believe me? He was able to sever Kidomaru's webs and in them flowed chakra.
When Neji was stuck in Kisame's water prison he disrupted the flow of chakra through the water prison.
You are saying he is just going to create bones from NOTHING? It is going to take chakra because EVERYTHING done in the ninja world takes chakra.
As long as the flow of chakra is involved it can be disrupted or stopped all together.
Since that is an absolute in this equation this fight is pretty much done.
I can see the bone bullets not having chakra because they are no longer connected but anything connected to him has to take chakra. I would also be willing to say that maybe his basic bones to not have chakra flowing through them but I bet you any amount of money it takes chakra to create new bones and reconstruct the bones INSIDE his body.

This is all natural to Neji so it is not an issue to shut down an opponent. Since Kimimaru is sick to begin with what makes you think one hit to the chest will not end him?

I had to throw that jab in there. But for real, even if he was not sick I do not think Kimimaru would win. Hell, it might be a good fight but I think Neji is the worst possible opponent for Kimimaru. Look at who they pit Neji up against...
Naruto and his 1000s of shadow clones... (fixed fight if you ask me, I do not care what anyone says, Neji would have owned him if Masashi didn't want to change Neji's outlook on life for character development. There is NO WAY in hell he would have won other wise, especially when Sasuke at Curse Mark 2 whooped his butt.)
Kidomaru and his 5489543905584954 spiders, sticky webs restricting movement and special skin film that absorbed chakra hits (AND HE STILL WON!)
And himself, a fake Neji that does not get tired... (Which he still won)

I read it.
1. neji wouldn't own him. but that's another story, I don't want to arguing about that anymore.
2. you're trying to say that anything which consist from chakra can destroy the other thing which also consist of chakra? (in that case neji's chakra vs kimimaru's 'chakra-bones')
but if that is true than gaara's attack would destroyed his bone-shield, since gaara's sand contain chakra...

and also about that: if kimimaru would be healthy there is no way that neji could beat him.

just my opinion :) I could be wrong though...

[Xinobi]

I read it.
1. neji wouldn't own him. but that's another story, I don't want to arguing about that anymore.
2. you're trying to say that anything which consist from chakra can destroy the other thing which also consist of chakra? (in that case neji's chakra vs kimimaru's 'chakra-bones')
but if that is true than gaara's attack would destroyed his bone-shield, since gaara's sand contain chakra...

and also about that: if kimimaru would be healthy there is no way that neji could beat him.

just my opinion :) I could be wrong though...

My dear Summer,
Gaara's sand doesn't cancel out chakra. His chakra is molded inside the sand. Just because something contains chakra doesn't mean it would cancel out the other. However I am saying that since Neji forces pure chakra into an object/person containing chakra then that would be devastating.

I guess I didn't make myself perfectly clear in my explanation...
My apologies.

[Summer.]

My dear Summer,
Gaara's sand doesn't cancel out chakra. His chakra is molded inside the sand. Just because something contains chakra doesn't mean it would cancel out the other. However I am saying that since Neji forces pure chakra into an object/person containing chakra then that would be devastating.

I guess I didn't make myself perfectly clear in my explanation...
My apologies.

ok ok, I understand.

BUT, I still can't imagine how would neji hit that point if there would be BONE instead of skin... -and we are talking about sharp, more than half meter long bone...

[Xinobi]

ok ok, I understand.

BUT, I still can't imagine how would neji hit that point if there would be BONE instead of skin... -and we are talking about sharp, more than half meter long bone...

I would venture to say he wouldn't hit the sharp edge of the bone. He does have the Byakugan which lets him see everything. This is why he is such a dangerous opponent up close and personal. They do not know anything about each other. When Kimimaru first fought Naruto and Lee, he didn't bring out his heavy arsenal until much later.

If Neji gets close which all battles start out that way I do not see this going well for Kimimaru.

This is going good but we are at a stale mate in this... LOL... Good show though.

[Summer.]

I would venture to say he wouldn't hit the sharp edge of the bone. He does have the Byakugan which lets him see everything. This is why he is such a dangerous opponent up close and personal. They do not know anything about each other. When Kimimaru first fought Naruto and Lee, he didn't bring out his heavy arsenal until much later.

If Neji gets close which all battles start out that way I do not see this going well for Kimimaru.

This is going good but we are at a stale mate in this... LOL... Good show though.

if they don't know anything about each other than is also possible that neji get close to kimimaru and he doesn't expect there will the strange, deadly bone grow out of his body so suddenly... -and when he realize that it's already too late.

[Xinobi]

Possibly but unlikely.

[Summer.]

yes, unlikely, but just as much as neji could hit kimimaru with his first try. kimimaru isn't stupid and he's way stronger than kidomaru, and even he didn't fall on neji's attack the very first time...

[Xinobi]

yes, unlikely, but just as much as neji could hit kimimaru with his first try. kimimaru isn't stupid and he's way stronger than kidomaru, and even he didn't fall on neji's attack the very first time...

I pointed that out in the post you addressed. Kidomaru was the only real opponent Neji had that could have beaten him. If Lee knew nothing of Kimimaru and held his own for as long as he did I would venture to say Neji could do the same and better.

I think people are missing the point that Neji can see everything in front above, below, around and nearly everything behind him. Unless you know and have studied the Byakugan you will be able to surprise a Byakugan user.

[majinsharingan]

Possibly but unlikely.

No it's completely likely. Dance of the Magnolia's. Neji knows nothing of Kimimaru. Neji gets close, he did the same to what he did to Naruto.

[Summer.]

I pointed that out in the post you addressed. Kidomaru was the only real opponent Neji had that could have beaten him.
naruto beat him though... xDDD

If Lee knew nothing of Kimimaru and held his own for as long as he did I would venture to say Neji could do the same and better.

I think people are missing the point that Neji can see everything in front above, below, around and nearly everything behind him. Unless you know and have studied the Byakugan you will be able to surprise a Byakugan user.
ok, let's 'create' a situation. they know nothing about each other, so kimimaru doesn't know anything about his byakuugan, and neji nothing about kimimaru's bones.
they're approaching and than neji wants to use his 62-strikes. but we all know kimimaru wouldn't be so careless and let him close enough, so he protect himself with bones. what now?

I will tell my variety (you can tell yours xD): kimimaru has half meters of bones all around, he knows what is neji capable of, and neji knows about his blodline.
kimimaru would use his (don't know the name xD) 'ground bones' (that one... you know what I mean? I really can't remember the name) and neji... well his kaiten wouldn't be in use here, and he wouldn't has anything to stand on (gaara used sand for example -that saved him, but neji hasn't anything like that). and even if he has byakuugan... how could that help him? bones came from the ground in a moment! even if he would see them there would be no time to get back (remember - the fight was taking place on the meadow, there were no trees or anything...).

[Xinobi]

I see that we must always indulge in the finishing moves...

When has any fight in the Naruto series been a knock out/drag out from the start? Very few fights in the history of the world bring out the heavy guns right from the start. It is little battles here and there, even with people who have fought before. If anything they are looking for stuff they have not seen yet.

I want you to pay very close attention to this comment. I do not want it to throw you. Even though his regular bones may not have chakra, it is going to take chakra to form them how he wants them. While they are being formed I do not see why he could not disrupt the flow to FORM them. Also if Kaiten forms a crater in the ground when performed then why can't it grind bones trying to penetrate it?

Also you keep saying that Kimimaru's final finishing move would end Neji but I say it would not. If he sees it he can react to it. Gaara's sand probably partially reacted on it's own. He doesn't really have to do anything to protect himself. It probably took very little forethought to save Lee as well.

He has no enhanced sight to that was the most logical choice. Also Kimimaru didn't pop out THAT instant. They floated around for a few and then he popped out meaning he had to travel inside the bones to where they were. Are you telling me that Neji couldn't be able to see a concentrated mass of chakra moving to his location? Even if Neji was injured in this incident I would venture to say the injuries would be minimal.

Hell I would even say him performing a Kaiten would just lift him up and when it is done he would just hang out on top of the bone that lifted him up.

Nothing gets in. Until I see it happen with my own eyes that is where I stand.

[Cinaed Delaney]

Well, i agree that if kimimaru placed bones in front of his chacra points Neji could not disturb the flow of chakra. But then again, Kimimaru doesnt know where his chakra points are does he? It has never been stated, so i dont think he does.

I think that even if the ground bones could not penetrate Kaiten, and Neji was jumping from bone to bone from the above, Kimimaru could manipulate the bones, and attack Neji from everywhere, exept from above, and Neji still cant fly.

Kimimaru makes the bone Neji is standing on longer, sending neji in the air. Breaks it causing Neji to fall, with no means of staying up. Gets pierced by all the bones. It would be a hard battle, but i say Kimimaru is more experienced than Neji.

[majinsharingan]

Well, i agree that if kimimaru placed bones in front of his chacra points Neji could not disturb the flow of chakra. But then again, Kimimaru doesnt know where his chakra points are does he? It has never been stated, so i dont think he does.

I think that even if the ground bones could not penetrate Kaiten, and Neji was jumping from bone to bone from the above, Kimimaru could manipulate the bones, and attack Neji from everywhere, exept from above, and Neji still cant fly.

Kimimaru makes the bone Neji is standing on longer, sending neji in the air. Breaks it causing Neji to fall, with no means of staying up. Gets pierced by all the bones. It would be a hard battle, but i say Kimimaru is more experienced than Neji.

Kimimaru would win, kay?
He moves his bones to the top layer of his body right below the skin, Neji can't press the chakra points. And Neji can't use Kaitan, it won't affect him, damage wise, it's still throw him. Kimimaru's bones are he strongest thing ever. He survived Gaara's finisher, and he survived the Desert Coffin, no one can do that.

[Summer.]

I'm a bit tired, I guess this is another thing we will disagree about it like forever xinobi xDDD
but it was really good show, I wish there would be more discussions like this one.

[majinsharingan]

yeah it was the other debates need to be more like this.

[Xinobi]

@ Majinsharingan
The arguements that you make are non-realistic because of a couple of things
1. The gentle fist technique attacks your chakra circulatory system in masses so if Neji attacked only using the gentle fist techique then I could see him resorting to his bone defense much sooner than simply relying on his bone offense.

2. A variation of the gentle fist technique attacks only the chakra points. Hinata was fighting Neji and all the while she was getting her chakra points blocked and she did not notice it UNTIL Neji pointed it out to her. What makes you think he would even know what was happening to him?

@At Everyone in opposition
3. Not to disrespect any of you because I am really not but it is unrealistic to think that Kimimaru would resort to his ultimate technique right off of the bat. I gaurentee that he probably wouldn't even have efficient chakra to even perform such a technique. The only reason Kidomaru was able to was because he was a long ranged fighter.

4. Even if he starts moving his bones to cover his body his NEW bones take chakra to manipulate. You think bones come from nothing? You are sadly mistaken. While he is forming his bones, I assure you Neji will be making them into bone crumbs by shutting down chakra points.

@Majinsharingan once again
5. Do not cheapen this debate by claiming victory because you haven't even scratched the surface on defending your arguement. Also, going for the jugular is hardly any way to have a debate. Now do not get me wrong, I am enjoying myself but it is becoming frustrating. Until I concede defeat, do not even go there :)

@Summer
6. You thought I didn't notice that Naruto, huh? :)
I would give you a power noogie if you were here. YOU KNOW how I feel about that so don't even get me started, besides, I already posted my feelings on that and they are unchangable.

[Summer.]

@Summer
6. You thought I didn't notice that Naruto, huh? :)
I would give you a power noogie if you were here. YOU KNOW how I feel about that so don't even get me started, besides, I already posted my feelings on that and they are unchangable.

oh man, you noticed? :o
I'm glad I'm far far away from you :D
yeah I know how you feel about that, that's why I put that about naruto in the smallest size. I just couldn't resist it xDDD

[Deadlocked]

Kimimaro has chakra in his bones at all times, like Neji does. When Naruto landed that one punch, the chakra was there, always. Exactly the same as with Kimimaro's bones. That's what enables him to manipulate his bones. Can he magically move his bones in front of everything else without chakra? No. So, stay with me here. If chakra is always in his bones..and his bones are vulnerable....can you guess it? Neji can stop the chakra flow.

You rely way too much on Kimimaro's finishing move. Neji doesn't have a jutsu that drives him into the ground. So, can he burrow himself into the ground? Don't think so. How else would he do that move? Pull out all of his bones, extend them, shove them into the ground, and shoot them out? I don't think Neji is that stupid to not do anything while that is in occurance.

The Spine of Kaguya? Simple enough, Rotation. Has anything broken Kaiten before? Don't think so.

Like Xinobi is saying, he won't go for the ultimate move right away. Plus, as I have stated earlier, he can't use that move. Therefore your statement is null and void. But please don't take this seriosuly, the dome was super slow, and this is probably the debate of my life.

Something else, please don't ignore this statement like you guys have the others.

[Cinaed Delaney]

Kimimaro has chakra in his bones at all times, like Neji does. If chakra is always in his bones..and his bones are vulnerable....can you guess it? Neji can stop the chakra flow.

It has never been stated that Neji has chakra in his bones so i dont believe that he does. AND BONES STILL DONT HAVE A CHAKRA FLOW! They are bones. It may take chakra to pull them out it may take chakra to make new ones, it may even be nessesary to gathter chakra in the bones, but the bones still dont have a chakra flow. That means that Neji cant make his bones vurnable. If Kimimaru indeed uses The Spine of Kaguya, and Neji uses Kaiten, Kaiten still takes chakra to perform, and the spine only takes chakra to form once. He can keeps slashing Neji as much as he wants without using any chakra, Neji would need kyuubi chakra to keep rotating... and guess what... he cant use kyuubi chakra. There i didnt ignore your comment. Happy?

[Xinobi]

It has never been stated that Neji has chakra in his bones so i dont believe that he does. AND BONES STILL DONT HAVE A CHAKRA FLOW! They are bones. It may take chakra to pull them out it may take chakra to make new ones, it may even be nessesary to gathter chakra in the bones, but the bones still dont have a chakra flow. That means that Neji cant make his bones vurnable. If Kimimaru indeed uses The Spine of Kaguya, and Neji uses Kaiten, Kaiten still takes chakra to perform, and the spine only takes chakra to form once. He can keeps slashing Neji as much as he wants without using any chakra, Neji would need kyuubi chakra to keep rotating... and guess what... he cant use kyuubi chakra. There i didnt ignore your comment. Happy?

Jeez... When I see comments like this I feel people do not even read what I write.

[Deadlocked]

It has never been stated that Neji has chakra in his bones so i dont believe that he does. AND BONES STILL DONT HAVE A CHAKRA FLOW! They are bones. It may take chakra to pull them out it may take chakra to make new ones, it may even be nessesary to gathter chakra in the bones, but the bones still dont have a chakra flow. That means that Neji cant make his bones vurnable. If Kimimaru indeed uses The Spine of Kaguya, and Neji uses Kaiten, Kaiten still takes chakra to perform, and the spine only takes chakra to form once. He can keeps slashing Neji as much as he wants without using any chakra, Neji would need kyuubi chakra to keep rotating... and guess what... he cant use kyuubi chakra. There i didnt ignore your comment. Happy?Noo in his bones, but he has chakra around him at all times. Like when Neji got punched by Naruto. It was there.

Anything with chakra has a chakra flow!! It's not possible to have something that uses chakra and it doesn't have a flow.

Did you read half of what I wrote?

[majinsharingan]

Noo in his bones, but he has chakra around him at all times. Like when Neji got punched by Naruto. It was there.

Anything with chakra has a chakra flow!! It's not possible to have something that uses chakra and it doesn't have a flow.

Did you read half of what I wrote?

No bones don't have a chakra flow, they may have chakra in them but no flow.
Look back at Neji's fight, did you see his bones in the chakra system? No. Bones are not part of the chakra system, therefore no chakra flow.

[Xinobi]

No bones don't have a chakra flow, they may have chakra in them but no flow.
Look back at Neji's fight, did you see his bones in the chakra system? No. Bones are not part of the chakra system, therefore no chakra flow.

GEEZ!

His normal bones PROBABLY do not have chakra flowing through them. HIS NEW BONES probably do. It takes chakra to manipulate the NEW BONES. Why is this concept so hard to grasp? I am trying to be civil about this but.. DAMN!

(God, give me strength!)

Anyway I would also venture to say that the chakra circulatory system is far more complexed than what we see drawn on the anime. They simplify the pictures so we get a grasp of it however if you would remember the chunin fight between Neji and Hinata the chakra pathways flowed almost parallel with the normal organs and blood vessels of the body.

My opinion to this little miracle is this. When you have chakra being forced into your body from an outside source it causes little explosions in your body causing damage to your internal organs. So whether your chakra points are being attacked (more precise) or whether your chakra circulatory system is being attacked (more broad) then either way your in a world of hurt. Also while I will agree that a normal person's bones would not have chakra flowing through then I will say that the normal person does not have a Kekkei Genkai of bone manipulation. That to me means 2 things

1. Either his whole bone structure has chakra flowing through his bones (since it IS a Kekkei Genkai)

2. Or the NEW bones he creates have chakra flowing through them giving them their density/hardness/form/structure (since it IS a Kekkei Genkai)

There is NO way he can just form new bones out of nothing or sheer will.

Shikamaru needs chakra to manipulate his shadow. Why would this be any different.

Kimimaru would fall prey to Shino, Kisame (ofcourse! DUH!), and Neji.

[majinsharingan]

BONES DONT HAVE BLOOD FLOW! WHY SHOULD THEY HAVE A CIRCULATORY SYSTEM!

It takes chakra to move the bones, but there is no chakra flow in the bones, even if there was, Neji can't do sh*t against it. He stops chakra flow via chakra points, Bones definitly do not have a circulatory system, therefore, no points.
Shino and Kisame yes would win.
Neji doesn't suck chakra, or steal chakra.
He presses chakra points, bones do not have a heart, they dont have veins, they don't have arteries, so why should they have chakra points? They don't.

[Summer.]

oh well, I was about to say something, but majin is doing pretty well without my back up xDDD
way to go^^

[Deadlocked]

Don't he pull the new bones out of his butt?! NO. He uses chakra to form them, so they're completely made out of chakra, therefore they have a chakra system!

[majinsharingan]

Don't he pull the new bones out of his butt?! NO. He uses chakra to form them, so they're completely made out of chakra, therefore they have a chakra system!

No their not made out of chakra, they are bones. His bones, the uses his bones. Bones don't have a circulatory system at all. If you cut open someone, cut open his bone, and there is veins, arteries and a heart, then i'll believe you kay?

[Deadlocked]

...If he used all of his bones for the Dance, then will new bones magically appear out of nowhere?

Anyways, who cares about this? We've already countered all of your arguements. So Neji doesn't need to shut off his chakra, he's nasically already won.

[Xinobi]

He doesn't just attack chakra points...

You are still missing the point of my post. You are not even willing to accept or entertain the fact that it could be a possibility.

Also BLOOD does not flow in the chakra circulatory system. You are thinking of the WRONG circulatory system...

The bones need chakra to form and need chakra to move. Since that is a FACT then it needs CHAKRA FLOW! Since it needs chakra flow then it can be stopped.

Also when people perform jutsus of any kind (whether it be auto protection like Gaara or moving stuff like Kimimaru) it takes chakra. When you call forth your chakra it does not just stay in your chakra circulatory system. It goes to your feet, hands, possibly all over your body. Why? Because chakra FLOWS there. Neji does not just HAVE to attack the points. He can attack many places. If he sees stuff going on inside the body I would venture to say he should be able to stop it.

Your response to this will dictate my response to this.

I am severely loosing my taste for this argument because you refuse to acknowledge that it takes chakra to do or move anything. Even Gaara has his chakra molded into the sand. Even if Kimimaru has his chakra molded into his bones, they have chakra still IN them meaning that the chakra IN those bones can be pushed out THUS the bones loosing their hard properties becoming regular bones and regular bones can easily be broken (especially by a ninja).
Also everyone is assuming that he is going to do this grand move. That is unrealistic and even if he was going to try I doubt that he would be able to pull it off for lack of chakra.

[Deadlocked]

nasically? That's not even a word for one.
Two, Neji hasn't one.
Curse Seal Level 2.
Dance of the Seedling Ferns, if Kimimaru is in a rush and Neji is a big a threat as you say he is, he'll finish things quickly with that.
Typo.
Yeah, he has won.
Which speeds up his death.
Do you read what I type??? How in God's green earth would he get underground to do that move. Can you please tell me that?

Can you PLEASE read what we are typing? Xinobi's given arguments that would end this, and you don't acknowledge them.

[majinsharingan]

Typo.
Yeah, he has won.
Which speeds up his death.
Do you read what I type??? How in God's green earth would he get underground to do that move. Can you please tell me that?

Can you PLEASE read what we are typing? Xinobi's given arguments that would end this, and you don't acknowledge them.

I've completely acknowledged them.
He's done it before he can do it again.
Kimimaru can at least fight long range to wear your precious Neji down then go in for the kill. Your seriously underestimating him. There are not any chakra points on bones.
And in all of Neji's fights, i've never seen him stab at pure chakra, or stab at an arrow, even if he takes the chakra out of the bone, he can put more in, and then when he's running low on chakra, curse seal level 1, when he runs low again, curse seal level 2, and boom, if it comes down to it he'll have to use Seedling Ferns with only people with the ability to fly can dodge it.

[Deadlocked]

You Aren't Reading!!!!!

Can You See This? How Will He Get Underground To Do That Move?

[Xinobi]

I've completely acknowledged them.
He's done it before he can do it again.
Kimimaru can at least fight long range to wear your precious Neji down then go in for the kill. Your seriously underestimating him. There are not any chakra points on bones.
And in all of Neji's fights, i've never seen him stab at pure chakra, or stab at an arrow, even if he takes the chakra out of the bone, he can put more in, and then when he's running low on chakra, curse seal level 1, when he runs low again, curse seal level 2, and boom, if it comes down to it he'll have to use Seedling Ferns with only people with the ability to fly can dodge it.

You know what. I am done. You keep saying there are no chakra points in bones and I am not saying that. Also your sternum is protecting your heart and yet Neji can still hit that meaning if you are saying what I think you are saying then BONES are not even in this equation because regardless of what he does his chakra can go through the bones to his internal organs just like a chakra scapel.

You repeated your little (there is no chakra on bones, there is no chakra in bones) when this IS A SPECIAL CASE, HELLO!!!

If he is forming NEW bones and sticking bones out of his body then HOW is he doing it if he isn't using chakra? Please tell me that. Explain to me what I am missing in this equation because right now you are giving me a headache with your repeating the same thing. I have explained this many different ways when you try to force me to believe you saying the same thing. You know how I work and this is not it.

Majin... You suck...

I say that in the most respectful way. I think you are doing this on purpose to enrage me and drive up my blood pressure. I really do.

[Cinaed Delaney]

You Aren't Reading!!!!!

Can You See This? How Will He Get Underground To Do That Move?

Ep 2: How did Kakashi go underground to pull Sasuke down?

Thats just 1 example, but i remember that we have seen people going underground several times in both Manga and Anime, so there... problem solved.

[Xinobi]

Ep 2: How did Kakashi go underground to pull Sasuke down?

Thats just 1 example, but i remember that we have seen people going underground several times in both Manga and Anime, so there... problem solved.

That is Kakashi's jutsu, not Kimimaru's...

Try again...

[Cinaed Delaney]

not only kakashis, its a basic earth jutsu, and we dont know Kimimarus element.

[Deadlocked]

Kimimaro doesn't use earth. Has he used anything but bones? No.

[Cinaed Delaney]

Kimimaro doesn't use earth. Has he used anything but bones? No.

All shinobi have a elemental... even Taijutsu users.. come again.

[Xinobi]

All shinobi have a elemental... even Taijutsu users.. come again.

If you do not know Kimimaru can use it then you can not base your argument about it. You come again...

Anyway I am done. You can lead a horse to water but you can not make him/her drink. I can not possibly make this anymore barney style than I already have.

Think what you want. No one has said anything to make me think, question, or believe otherwise. I should have stopped when I said I was going to stop but I am stopping now. Some of the repeated reasonings are just silly, especially when they have had holes poked through them the whole time.

Good show (or the lack thereof)

Xinobi is signing off this thread for good.

[HyuugaHanabi]

Kimimaro should win! he's fast, smart, strong, cute, and could dodge neji's attacks easily, so neji can't touch him and he has to for his trigrams 64 palms

[Kaden]

kimmara would win.

1) curse seal levels for boosted chakra
2) even if neji closed off chakra points, curse seal would revive chakra

[~Nel Tu~]

Kimimaro

[Teh4th:)]

I say Kimimaro.

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

wow this was a heated battLe !
can't beLieve i missed it !

but i agreed with xinobi !

[Kankurotto]

Man, another two phenomenal warriors. I love the genius ones in this forum who comes up with thread like this!

[ED123]

Only thing ive seen while reading this topic is abunch of guys going back and forth on assumptions. :)

I think neji would win this fight because GOING BY WHAT IVE SEEN IN THE SHOW and not by what i think neji would do

1) When neji using his Gentle Fist style taijutsu doesn't really haft to make a direct hit to do damage especially since he is releasing chakra out of his finger tips forcing it into the enemies body which would in the long run cause severe damage to kimimaro already ill body.

2) We already know that neji can transfer chakra from his body to someone elses body (as long as there is a connection to that persons body) which in this situation would be Kimimaro bones. Meaning even if kimimaro could go underground and use that 1000 spike bone technique (I dont know maybe dig a hole with bones) neji could release chakra into the bones leading directly back to Kimimaro body causing severe internal damage

3) Kimimaro main style of combat is taijutsu which in this fight puts him in a MAJOR disadvantage. :)

Its pretty Ironic how the guy with the most indestructible body in the end died because of his body shutting down on him

AND PLEASE DONT TRY TO MAKE A ARGUMENT ABOUT NEJI BLIND SPOT BECAUSE THE
ONLY REASON WHY THE SPIDER GUY NEARLY KILLED NEJI WAS CAUSE OF PARTICULAR STYLE OF COMBAT HE HAD + HIS SUMMONING TECHNIQUE


In future battles lets go by what we seen on previous episode fights.

[Kaden]

Only thing ive seen while reading this topic is abunch of guys going back and forth on assumptions. :)

I think neji would win this fight because GOING BY WHAT IVE SEEN IN THE SHOW and not by what i think neji would do

1) When neji using his Gentle Fist style taijutsu doesn't really haft to make a direct hit to do damage especially since he is releasing chakra out of his finger tips forcing it into the enemies body which would in the long run cause severe damage to kimimaro already ill body.

2) We already know that neji can transfer chakra from his body to someone elses body (as long as there is a connection to that persons body) which in this situation would be Kimimaro bones. Meaning even if kimimaro could go underground and use that 1000 spike bone technique (I dont know maybe dig a hole with bones) neji could release chakra into the bones leading directly back to Kimimaro body causing severe internal damage

3) Kimimaro main style of combat is taijutsu which in this fight puts him in a MAJOR disadvantage. :)

Its pretty Ironic how the guy with the most indestructible body in the end died because of his body shutting down on him

AND PLEASE DONT TRY TO MAKE A ARGUMENT ABOUT NEJI BLIND SPOT BECAUSE THE
ONLY REASON WHY THE SPIDER GUY NEARLY KILLED NEJI WAS CAUSE OF PARTICULAR STYLE OF COMBAT HE HAD + HIS SUMMONING TECHNIQUE


In future battles lets go by what we seen on previous episode fights.


your saying that as if chakra could be transported through bones. human bones are dense, not hollow like birds. how could the chakra be transmitted?

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

your saying that as if chakra could be transported through bones. human bones are dense, not hollow like birds. how could the chakra be transmitted?

bones are hoLLow ! that makes them stronger !

[Soul]

kimimaro, all neji can do is taijutsu and make himself go dizzy xD

[Kaden]

bones are hoLLow ! that makes them stronger !

dude that's bird bones. humans are dense

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

no, human bones are aLso hoLLow !
it aLLows for bending and not breaking !

if bones were soLid bone and weren't hoLLow they wouLd break easiLy !

for exampLe, which is harder to break, a penciL or those cheap hoLLow pens ?

[Kaden]

even if the bones were hollow the percentage of solid vs. hollow would be slim. kimmaru is smart and would realize what neji is trying to do and back off.

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

back off? how do you suppose he couLd win from so far away?

but yeah kimmimaro's sword is kick a** !

i'm not picking between these two because i stiLL can't find any reason that wouLd prove that one is CLEARLY stronger than the other !

[Kaden]

fight long range with finger bullets or bone spikes from ground, also CS2, how could neji close off that much chakra?

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

bone projectiLes? hRRRRm empty paLm can brush them aside !

bone from the ground? kimmimaro uses chakra to make those so neJi can see where they pop out !

cs2? you don't have to cLose off aLL the tenketsu's, just take his heart out !

[Raikage's left hand]

I would back Kimimaro on this, Lee even in his drunken state couldn't avoid Kimi's bone projectiles once he went curse seal level 1.

Kimi's Taijutsu is almost flawless and his bloodline limit only makes it so much better, all Kimi needs to do if Neji gets close is shoot out the bones like he did against Rock Lee and that would seriously discourage Neji's attacks.

[Kaden]

and kimmaru is stronger than all the sound four put together. neji would be no problem. he had a hard time defeating the spider guy. kimmaru beat him.

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

and kimmaru is stronger than all the sound four put together. neji would be no problem. he had a hard time defeating the spider guy. kimmaru beat him.

i thought we were taLking about neJi now !

[aarthans]

i go for neji. ^^ absolute defense hakkeshou kaiten and byakugan!

[Kaden]

i thought we were taLking about neJi now !

no. this is kimmaru who would beat neji

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

which neJi? shippuuden or genin?

[Kaden]

shippuden neji

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

then it is a no contest !

jounin neJi wiLL waste kidomaru ! anyday, anywhere, anyhow (the Last one isn't a word is it?)

[Mangekyo_Sharingan_BB]

Kimimaro's bloodline limit was pretty freakin awesome, and nejii is kickass, i say kimimaro though ,in the fight against nejii before shippuden, but nejii as a jounin would destroy kimimaro, cause of the insanely awsome bone structure.

[Kaden]

kimamaru would win. his tatical and deducing skills would ultimately help him win

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

neji would win cuz neji he has the byakugan if he doesnt it'll be a good fight

[caseclosedchild(narurakue]

Kimimaru will win. because see it took everyone atleast 12 or more episodes to beat 1 sound 4 so it will take neji even longer and he might endup dieing anyway

[HyuugaHanabi]

Yeah kimimaro would definitely win. he barely uses chakra doesnt he? his kekkei genkai is more stronger and when under the influence of the curse mark he's unbeatable.

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

but neji is a genius at close range combat he lost to naruto cuz he was underground he almost lost to kiddamaru cuz he was fighting from a distance
so thats why neji would win kimimaro had problems with drunken lee

[HyuugaHanabi]

but neji is a genius at close range combat he lost to naruto cuz he was underground he almost lost to kiddamaru cuz he was fighting from a distance so thats why neji would win kimimaro had problems with drunken lee He only had trouble with lee because he was too fast and he could defeat him because he almost beat gaara but he didnt make it because of his sickness. and with neji he could block any of his hits with his bones. neji barely beat kidomaru

[orochimaru4president]

this is hard,
i think probably neji.
he's pretty strong

[HyuugaHanabi]

this is hard, i think probably neji. he's pretty strong Kimimaro wins. neji cant beat all the sound 4 together but kimamaro can. so he wins

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

remember kimimaro fought them with out there cursed form

[HyuugaHanabi]

Still, they're tough even without the mark.

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

but he has his kekegenkai

[HyuugaHanabi]

but he has his kekegenkai They both do. i just think kimimaro would win

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

i dont

[HyuugaHanabi]

i dont Its ok if you dont we both have different opinions :)