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Honeyboyneutron
11-03-2007, 05:27 PM
Talk of speed and power in this battle,I wonder who will win ? On your opinion

azninvasion601
11-04-2007, 12:07 AM
lee -.- are u kidding me 8 gates open is like 500x as strong as 5 gates... and with soldier pill it adds another like 100x strngth O.O

Honeyboyneutron
11-04-2007, 07:11 AM
Ichigo's faster than sound with his everyday shikai,his bankai is for the sole purpose of speed and his mask power.1 Getsuga Tenshou in that form and its game.I'll give this to ichigo.Though battle though,I'll like to see it

TsuHanyou
11-04-2007, 06:01 PM
ive seen what ichigo is like when he goes mask and bankai
LEE WOULD WIN EVEN IN 7 GATES WITHOUT A SOLDIER PILL!

iRob
11-04-2007, 11:30 PM
lee with 7 gates or more is to much

TsuHanyou
11-05-2007, 12:38 AM
excactly
but lee would be dead

Honeyboyneutron
11-05-2007, 08:16 AM
If 7 gates is even too much,what will happen in a scenario with 3gates vrs Bankai ? I'll still give it to Ichigo,he's too much for the afternoon

TsuHanyou
11-05-2007, 11:06 AM
if lee wen three gates ichigo would definetly win
but like i said
ive seen ichogos power when hes with bankai and hollow
and lee at 8 gates and a soldier pill would beat him no doubt about it.

Honeyboyneutron
11-05-2007, 12:40 PM
Are u kidding me PNE ? One hell of a big mistake to underate Ichigo's power when he's at his max Bankai and Mask.Look what he did to Kariya,Byakuya,Renji,the sealed sword guy from the movie,Grimjaw,the 11th squad captain ,in fact whoever faced him.Rukia's senses where even numbed by the amount of his reiatsu !

TsuHanyou
11-05-2007, 11:08 PM
Ive Seen It All Hbn!
And Lee Would Still Win For Sure!

majinsharingan
11-05-2007, 11:09 PM
Ichigo's faster than sound with his everyday shikai,his bankai is for the sole purpose of speed and his mask power.1 Getsuga Tenshou in that form and its game.I'll give this to ichigo.Though battle though,I'll like to see it

Lee was faster than sound with 4 gates, now times that by 500 and Ichigo wont have a prayer.
He wont even have a word.

TsuHanyou
11-05-2007, 11:13 PM
dont forget the soldier pill!
AND ICHIGO WILL BE DIGGIN HIS OWN GRAVE!

Honeyboyneutron
11-06-2007, 08:50 AM
Can't believe this,u actually think lee stands a chance ? i wonder what ur opinions will be if I add Ishida to Ichigo and maybe .... Zaraki Kenpachi

Honeyboyneutron
11-06-2007, 08:56 AM
Let's have mercy on Lee and leave out the mask and Zaraki HEHEHE

Deadpool
11-06-2007, 11:19 AM
Lee, 7 gates but then lee would die but first ichiko would die then lee, so Lee would win!

majinsharingan
11-06-2007, 05:00 PM
Can't believe this,u actually think lee stands a chance ? i wonder what ur opinions will be if I add Ishida to Ichigo and maybe .... Zaraki Kenpachi

You add Zaraki and Ichigo.
He'll still beat both of them.
At 4 gates LEE CREATES A SONIC BOOM ON CONTACT WITH SOMEONE!
He moved to fast he uprooted the f**king arena.
And then this is 500 times stornger than that.
Oh yeah, Ichigo and Zaraki are DEFINITLY stronger than invincible.

TsuHanyou
11-06-2007, 07:15 PM
Yeah!
Ichigo Would Be Pwned!

Ido
11-06-2007, 07:41 PM
Ichigo will beat Lee. If lee opens the 8th gate, Lee is still getting hurt even tho Ichigo is not even hitting him, 8th Gate hurts lee badly.

So my vote would be ichigo

majinsharingan
11-06-2007, 07:45 PM
Ichigo will beat Lee. If lee opens the 8th gate, Lee is still getting hurt even tho Ichigo is not even hitting him, 8th Gate hurts lee badly.

So my vote would be ichigo

Yes but Lee could still beat him.
he'll move at the speed of light.
one punch would beat Ichigo.

Ido
11-06-2007, 07:49 PM
But Ichigo can dodge that right, and Hit lee with his sword and Lee is down.

But, Ichigo moves fast too right?

majinsharingan
11-06-2007, 07:55 PM
But Ichigo can dodge that right, and Hit lee with his sword and Lee is down.

But, Ichigo moves fast too right?

Yes.
but not as fast as lee with 4 gates, so why would he move 500x than that?
Ichigo has no chance against Lee with the 8 gates.
it's sad how much people are underestimating the 8 gates.
Your not but whoever made this thread is.
The 8 Gates are an unstoppable force that makes the fighter invincible, makes him as strong as god. And the person dies after using it, but not DURING use.

TsuHanyou
11-06-2007, 11:28 PM
yeah theres no way ichigo could win!

majinsharingan
11-07-2007, 05:14 PM
Yes agreed.

TsuHanyou
11-08-2007, 01:49 AM
i mean really.
ive seen ichigo full mask with bankai
and ive seen GAI and 6 gates and he was stronger than ichigo at mask and bankai
and if lee can make it to 6 gates he would win
LET ALONE 8 GATES AN A FRIKIN SOLDIER PILL!
lol

JackpottJinchuuriki
11-08-2007, 02:18 AM
hhmmm...well at first i think Lee....but then again i think ichigo.....Lee with the 8 gates and pill i think would win, and then if Lee only had the 3 gates without soldier pill...mayb ichigo...this is a tough one, i think ichigo would get pretti overwhelmed by Lee's speed...

majinsharingan
11-08-2007, 02:35 AM
3 gates Lee was fast enough to uproot the entire battlefield by moving.
So idk.

Deadpool
11-08-2007, 09:41 AM
I reallly think this battle goes to Lee, solider pill plus 6 gates? So you know what i mean if you seen Gai in 6 gates, plus solider pill...

majinsharingan
11-08-2007, 03:56 PM
This is 8 Gates.

Deadpool
11-08-2007, 05:45 PM
Dont understand you what is your point...?

majinsharingan
11-08-2007, 05:48 PM
This is 8 gates, not 6.
Lee has all 8 gates open, plus a soldier pill.
He would kill Ichigo so fast you couldn't even tell where Ichigo's dead body went.

TsuHanyou
11-08-2007, 10:20 PM
yeah excactly
battels been decided!

Dr. Lecter
11-28-2007, 10:21 PM
rock lee all the way

mason999
11-29-2007, 03:30 AM
Ichigo!!!! Lee Will Never Beat Ichigo With His Mask And,or Bankia Lee Is A Mouse Ichigo Is A Dinosaur.

majinsharingan
11-29-2007, 03:33 AM
Ichigo!!!! Lee Will Never Beat Ichigo With His Mask And,or Bankia Lee Is A Mouse Ichigo Is A Dinosaur.

pft...
Obviously more of a Bleach fan then Naruto fan.
Lemme put it in analogy like you did.
Ichigo is a dinosaur.
Lee is a mouse....that blows up everything that gets close to it.

The 8 Gates are the strongest thing known to man, unstoppable force.
There is a huge difference between 6 gates and 8 gates.
Lee could take out the world if he had the time when in the 8 gates.
8 gates, makes him faster than the speed of light, makes him stronger than the devil himself.
Ichigo doesn't move at the speed of sound, let alone 1 million times faster.
Also, when 3 gates are opened, when Lee punches someone, it creates a sonic boom, now imagine that times 100,000 thousand. It could create a bomb.

Lee wins incredibly easily.
Lee wins before Ichigo even thinks to move to grab his sword.

mason999
11-29-2007, 03:33 AM
But Ichigo can dodge that right, and Hit lee with his sword and Lee is down.

But, Ichigo moves fast too right?

It depends how desperite he is

majinsharingan
11-29-2007, 03:34 AM
Ichigo!!!! Lee Will Never Beat Ichigo With His Mask And,or Bankia Lee Is A Mouse Ichigo Is A Dinosaur.

pft...
Obviously more of a Bleach fan then Naruto fan.
Lemme put it in analogy like you did.
Ichigo is a dinosaur.
Lee is a mouse....that blows up everything that gets close to it.

The 8 Gates are the strongest thing known to man, unstoppable force.
There is a huge difference between 6 gates and 8 gates.
Lee could take out the world if he had the time when in the 8 gates.
8 gates, makes him faster than the speed of light, makes him stronger than the devil himself.
Ichigo doesn't move at the speed of sound, let alone 1 million times faster.
Also, when 3 gates are opened, when Lee punches someone, it creates a sonic boom, now imagine that times 100,000 thousand. It could create a bomb.

Lee wins incredibly easily.
Lee wins before Ichigo even thinks to move to grab his sword.

mason999
11-29-2007, 03:36 AM
pft...
Obviously more of a Bleach fan then Naruto fan.
Lemme put it in analogy like you did.
Ichigo is a dinosaur.
Lee is a mouse....that blows up everything that gets close to it.

The 8 Gates are the strongest thing known to man, unstoppable force.
There is a huge difference between 6 gates and 8 gates.
Lee could take out the world if he had the time when in the 8 gates.
8 gates, makes him faster than the speed of light, makes him stronger than the devil himself.
Ichigo doesn't move at the speed of sound, let alone 1 million times faster.
Also, when 3 gates are opened, when Lee punches someone, it creates a sonic boom, now imagine that times 100,000 thousand. It could create a bomb.

Lee wins incredibly easily.
Lee wins before Ichigo even thinks to move to grab his sword.

ok, i am a naruto fan more than bleach. But i have not seen much from lee. He is probly one of the least common in naruto. But if lee grabs zongetsu when his zonpacto is out lee will die

majinsharingan
11-29-2007, 03:42 AM
ok, i am a naruto fan more than bleach. But i have not seen much from lee. He is probly one of the least common in naruto. But if lee grabs zongetsu when his zonpacto is out lee will die

pft.
You do know nothing about Lee.
Watch his fight with Gaara.
He should of won.
But see here....um...Lee moves at the speed of light.
And one punch would turn Ichigo into nothing.
Ichigo would physically explode.

This is the fight..
Begin!

I don't even have to to say end.
It's over so fast it takes me a minute to realize what happened.

Ichigo has no chance in hell

Dr. Lecter
11-29-2007, 12:25 PM
ichigo is no were near the speed and power of lee

Neji Hyūga
12-01-2007, 08:59 AM
8 Gate Lee would DESTORY and with a soldier pill lEE wOUld Kill Ichigo before he could even attack lee

Narutobeast12312
12-01-2007, 03:58 PM
Talk of speed and power in this battle,I wonder who will win ? On your opinion
Ichigo all the way:gaara: :naruto: :deidara:

Neji'sEyes
12-01-2007, 07:04 PM
bankai and mask would win lee cant open the 8 gates!!!

Neji Hyūga
12-01-2007, 11:58 PM
bankai and mask would win lee cant open the 8 gates!!!


He Can't open the 8 gates Yet,anyway this battle is between 8 gate Lee with a soilder pill and Banki and mask

Speed Of Light Hmmm lee would kill him before he could move a finger

Pablo-RockLee
12-02-2007, 12:30 AM
or Bink lol

add hero's water

majinsharingan
12-02-2007, 01:06 AM
He Can't open the 8 gates

Yes he can.

original fox king foxstream
12-03-2007, 04:13 PM
with all 8 gates lee would win

TsuHanyou
01-07-2008, 01:46 AM
yeah lee would win

kstylegunz
01-08-2008, 08:20 PM
Not possible Lee wud just die then, plus ichigo has mask, bankai and super fast regeneration. Ceros and getsuga tenshou. I doubt that lee would win

kstylegunz
01-08-2008, 08:21 PM
Yes he can.

Nope only 5 but even if lee can he would lose.

TsuHanyou
01-08-2008, 10:42 PM
you cant double post.
and lee can get to 8. and he dosent die till AFTER the battle.
lee would win

majinsharingan
01-08-2008, 10:51 PM
Quit Double Posting.
Lee has all 8 Gates.
He doesn't die till after the battle, like Travis said, and he moves as fast as the speed of light which defeats every single anime character's speed, it beats the Outlaw Star, the Gekko, it beats spaceships in speed. Goku is the only person that can keep up with Lee's speed.

Super Luigi
01-08-2008, 10:54 PM
lee

TsuHanyou
01-08-2008, 10:54 PM
are you sure? lee may be faster.
but anyway.
yeah, lee would win

Shishi Uchiha
01-09-2008, 12:08 AM
in a race a tie but in a fight ichigo

majinsharingan
01-09-2008, 12:11 AM
No, your wrong.
In a race, Lee moves at the speed of light, no one can beat that, the Millennium Falcon could possibly win.
And in the fight, Lee wins because he travels at the SPEED OF FRIGGIN LIGHT! Ichigo doesn't even no what happens he just dies!

TsuHanyou
01-09-2008, 12:13 AM
short. sweet. and to the point!

Shishi Uchiha
01-09-2008, 12:18 AM
hahahaha wow that was good

TsuHanyou
01-09-2008, 12:23 AM
yeha. thats what you can exspect from him.

Shishi Uchiha
01-09-2008, 12:56 AM
well yea so i guess lee

TsuHanyou
01-09-2008, 12:58 AM
i think this battles been decided.

kstylegunz
01-10-2008, 01:45 AM
Quit Double Posting.
Lee has all 8 Gates.
He doesn't die till after the battle, like Travis said, and he moves as fast as the speed of light which defeats every single anime character's speed, it beats the Outlaw Star, the Gekko, it beats spaceships in speed. Goku is the only person that can keep up with Lee's speed.

Goku can reach to another galaxy in seconds which lee cant do shit
Goku is the godliest character in any anime.

kstylegunz
01-10-2008, 01:49 AM
i dont think lee will win cuz even if he hits ichigo at his hardest, ichigo has super fast regeneration, cero and getsuga tensho. he can fight in distance. Lee will start beating the shit out of ichigo but then he'll start slowing down and ichigo can regenerate, get his health back. Also ichigo can keep using getsuga tenshou without wasting energy when hes using mask. That will do the job.

TsuHanyou
01-12-2008, 03:28 AM
dude stop doulbe posting!

MissySmithy
01-12-2008, 06:40 PM
^It's true, you should stop double posting.

And as much as I love Ichigo I'm going to give it to Lee.

TsuHanyou
01-12-2008, 08:42 PM
yeah. ichigo cant match up with lees speed.

¤ Shrike † Itachi ¤
01-12-2008, 09:41 PM
Lee would "rock" his world.


Haha, get it?

[/suckyhumor]
XD

TsuHanyou
01-12-2008, 09:54 PM
...................ok then....................

kstylegunz
01-13-2008, 04:46 AM
Ichigo fought someone who's attacks are faster than speed of sound and he can easily defend off from it, Lee isnt as fast but he'll do some damage to ichigo. Even if he does damage to ichigo, ichigo at vizard state can heal at super fast rate(even faster than naruto), can use cero, and getsuga tenshou, he doesn't have limit to it. Lee will start to slow down and then ichigo will defeat him

TsuHanyou
01-14-2008, 08:54 PM
lees much much faster than you think at all 8 gates PLUS the soldier pill, he would be to fast for ichigo to regenerate, and hed kill him.

kstylegunz
01-14-2008, 11:13 PM
lees much much faster than you think at all 8 gates PLUS the soldier pill, he would be to fast for ichigo to regenerate, and hed kill him.

blehh maybe true but lee will die after 8 gates

majinsharingan
01-14-2008, 11:22 PM
Lee will die after Ichigo dies, therefore he wins.

Lee moves at the speed of light, which is 100% undefendable.

kstylegunz
01-14-2008, 11:44 PM
Lee will die after Ichigo dies, therefore he wins.

Lee moves at the speed of light, which is 100% undefendable.

Speed of sound not light, u will burn urself cuz of air friction. Everything would tear apart. travelling speed of light is fast as goku's instant transmission

majinsharingan
01-14-2008, 11:48 PM
No, exactly, and Goku doesn't tear himself apart :)
You just proved yourself wrong. xD

And Speed of Sound is the 4th Gate, there's still 4 more and the power multiples as it grows.

kstylegunz
01-15-2008, 12:01 AM
No, exactly, and Goku doesn't tear himself apart :)
You just proved yourself wrong. xD

And Speed of Sound is the 4th Gate, there's still 4 more and the power multiples as it grows.

Goku is not a human, remember that. DBZ is entirely fake. remember that. Plus speed of sound is no way close to speed of light. when you go pass grade 9 science then talk to me. 3×108 m/s is the speed of light. If u want me to give u a short lesson i will :)

majinsharingan
01-15-2008, 12:04 AM
Goku is not a human, remember that. DBZ is entirely fake. remember that. Plus speed of light isnt 4 times faster. when you go pass grade 9 science then talk to me. 3×108 m/s is the speed of light. If u want me to give u a short lesson i will :)


Don't even try all the High and Mighty Crap, "Oh when you pass this grade--" BS. Don't even bring it up.
And also, Kishimoto is a Manga Writer, take it from me, you don't need a degree in Rocket Science to Write.
You don't need a degree in anything. It helps. But you don't need one.
Physics and Formula's have nothing to do with Manga.
And btw.
I took 9th Grade Science and Social Studies in 6th and 7th Grade :)

kstylegunz
01-15-2008, 12:15 AM
Don't even try all the High and Mighty Crap, "Oh when you pass this grade--" BS. Don't even bring it up.
And also, Kishimoto is a Manga Writer, take it from me, you don't need a degree in Rocket Science to Write.
You don't need a degree in anything. It helps. But you don't need one.
Physics and Formula's have nothing to do with Manga.
And btw.
I took 9th Grade Science and Social Studies in 6th and 7th Grade :)

Goku even says he travels in speed of light, also lee wont die cuz of speed of light, he dies of all the heart muscles used in his body. Plus it even says lee is fast as speed of sound, not light

majinsharingan
01-15-2008, 12:32 AM
It never said Lee was as fast as the speed of sound, never once in Episodes 48, 49, or 50 did it say that, and that was the only time he used the gates.

Lee is as fast as the speed of sound with the 3rd gate open, i checked, it's the 3rd.
And Lee's heart won't stop during the 8 Gates, Gai said you die after using them, not as your using them.

TsuHanyou
01-15-2008, 12:37 AM
so lees much faster.

reji
01-16-2008, 08:04 PM
rocklee would when ichigo wouldnt be able to see lee because hes so fast but he would stand a chance

TsuHanyou
01-16-2008, 09:13 PM
excactly. lee wins.

Kiba's_da_shit
01-16-2008, 10:18 PM
i havent really seen bleach but i seen rock lee flip out and with eight gates and a soldier pill, he's hanging out with the dbz gang

kstylegunz
01-17-2008, 12:23 AM
i havent really seen bleach but i seen rock lee flip out and with eight gates and a soldier pill, he's hanging out with the dbz gang

No, dbz fighters are much stronger. Humans vs Saiyans basically.

TsuHanyou
01-17-2008, 12:49 AM
i havent really seen bleach but i seen rock lee flip out and with eight gates and a soldier pill, he's hanging out with the dbz gang

no you havent. its never been shown before.

sT@r
01-17-2008, 07:01 PM
Man i don`t know...but i thing that rock lee would won ... i'm not going to explain why

Rival
01-17-2008, 10:59 PM
Ichigo would cry

TsuHanyou
01-17-2008, 11:18 PM
excactly. lees the winner.

AzureKnight
04-21-2008, 06:50 PM
Sigh... even if Lee could match up to Ichigo's speed, which he can't, nothing he does could hurt Ichigo. When Ichigo fought Grimmjoww, Grimmjoww fired a shot from his elbow that destroyed a massive building. Ichigo took 5 at once without flinching.

The power scale goes:
Bleach > One Piece > Naruto

TsuHanyou
05-10-2008, 03:05 PM
Incorrect.

Lee CAN match up to ichigos speed..he can go faster actually.
Almost everything he does could hurt ichigo.
Your wrong. ichigo was badly hurt by that attack, and he did flinch.

vane
05-10-2008, 05:17 PM
Well basically I say Ichigo wins. Not because its Bleach vs Naruto but because Lee with 8 gates is a super strong and fast character but Ichigo survives his power up which matches that of Lee's gates. Basically Lee's gates make him about even with Ichigo when he is in hollow bankai. But when they meet at a stale mate Lee dies from opening all the gates. And Ichigo is left standing after his power up. Also we all know that Ichigo can take a major beating. As mentioned before the things from Grimmjow's elbow was extremely powerful, probably as powerful as Lee with 8 gates open, and Ichigo survived that. So yes I say Ichigo because he lives at the end of the fight and Lee dies.

TsuHanyou
05-10-2008, 06:12 PM
Well basically I say Ichigo wins. Not because its Bleach vs Naruto but because Lee with 8 gates is a super strong and fast character but Ichigo survives his power up which matches that of Lee's gates. Basically Lee's gates make him about even with Ichigo when he is in hollow bankai. But when they meet at a stale mate Lee dies from opening all the gates. And Ichigo is left standing after his power up. Also we all know that Ichigo can take a major beating. As mentioned before the things from Grimmjow's elbow was extremely powerful, probably as powerful as Lee with 8 gates open, and Ichigo survived that. So yes I say Ichigo because he lives at the end of the fight and Lee dies.

Ichigos Power up dosent match lees 8 gates.
Your obviously underestimating lee my friend, hes stronger than hollow bankai ichigo at 8 gates, and faster.

Lee dosent die till after the battle with the gates, lee would kill ichigo, then he would die, so lee would win.

Lee could beat grimmjow with ease.
A beating from lee is much more deadly than a beating from grimmjow.

Lee would win hands down.

Kyuubi.
05-10-2008, 06:36 PM
Lee would win in a second. if he opens the last gate, his strength is more than all the kage's strengths combined. so def. lee

TsuHanyou
05-10-2008, 06:39 PM
I Dont know about all the kages combined.
But yeah lee would win.

Kyuubi.
05-10-2008, 06:50 PM
yay!! you agree with me!

vane
05-10-2008, 10:41 PM
Ichigos Power up dosent match lees 8 gates.
Your obviously underestimating lee my friend, hes stronger than hollow bankai ichigo at 8 gates, and faster.

Lee dosent die till after the battle with the gates, lee would kill ichigo, then he would die, so lee would win.

Lee could beat grimmjow with ease.
A beating from lee is much more deadly than a beating from grimmjow.

Lee would win hands down.

Wow you didnt give any evidencat all and you call me wrong. My friend I dont ever underestimate anybody in a battle here. All you said is that you disagree with me wihtout presenting facts of your own. That isnt proving me wrong. So when you give some evidence that Lee is this super awesome, and that he is so much faster and stronger than Ichigo then you come back and try and prove me wrong. But I have given the reason why Ichigo wins this battle. Because he survives his power up while Lee dies right after.

AzureKnight
05-10-2008, 11:26 PM
Relax, Vane, they won't be able to beat this little tidbit of information right here. Technically, they can't prove that Lee's power is greater than Ichigo's with the gates and all that, but since they won't drop it, I'll just stomp em' with something they can't argue with.

ICHIGO CAN FLY.

I think that pretty much settles it.

TsuHanyou
05-14-2008, 01:10 AM
Wow you didnt give any evidencat all and you call me wrong. My friend I dont ever underestimate anybody in a battle here. All you said is that you disagree with me wihtout presenting facts of your own. That isnt proving me wrong. So when you give some evidence that Lee is this super awesome, and that he is so much faster and stronger than Ichigo then you come back and try and prove me wrong. But I have given the reason why Ichigo wins this battle. Because he survives his power up while Lee dies right after.

Actually I Did Say my own facts, you obviously werent paying attention.

You already said that ichigo survives his power up and lee dosent.

This is true, but lee dies AFTER the battle, so he would die AFTER he kills ichigo.

Ichigos Speed could never match up to lees, especially at 8 gates.

Like Matt Said, At 3 gates lee made the ground break and shift and stuff.

Now multiply that 1000000 times, and what do you get?

A dead ichigo.

Ichigos Regeneration may be fast, but lee is faster.

AzureKnight
05-14-2008, 01:19 AM
Hey, ProNarutoExpert. I'll make it a little more visible this time.

ICHIGO CAN FLY.

HyuugaHanabi
05-14-2008, 01:28 AM
Lee wins. I'm sure he can because of all gates, Ichigo dies.

AzureKnight
05-14-2008, 01:32 AM
How many times do I have to say this?
ICHIGO CAN F***ING FLY.

TsuHanyou
05-14-2008, 01:36 AM
Lee can pretty much do the same at 8 gates, so he can fly to.

BUT
MUCH
MUCH
FASTER.

AzureKnight
05-14-2008, 01:39 AM
You don't know what he can do at 8 gates, because it's never happened. That's why a fight against something you don't know the abilities of is bullshit.

And I quote,
"i havent really seen bleach but i seen rock lee flip out and with eight gates and a soldier pill, he's hanging out with the dbz gang"

TsuHanyou
05-14-2008, 01:49 AM
You havent seen lee flip out with 8 gates.

its never been revealed.

And if hes hanging out with the Dbz gang, than that just shows how much stronger than ichigo he is.

vane
05-14-2008, 04:37 AM
Actually I Did Say my own facts, you obviously werent paying attention.

You already said that ichigo survives his power up and lee dosent.

This is true, but lee dies AFTER the battle, so he would die AFTER he kills ichigo.

Ichigos Speed could never match up to lees, especially at 8 gates.

Like Matt Said, At 3 gates lee made the ground break and shift and stuff.

Now multiply that 1000000 times, and what do you get?

A dead ichigo.

Ichigos Regeneration may be fast, but lee is faster.

Wow you really think that Lee at 8 gates would multiply him by 1000000. That is absurd. He may get faster but not that much. But I think you forget that Ichigo is fast also. Especially when he has his hollow mask on. But yes I said Ichigo survives his power up but Lee wont kill him before it breaks. They will both be left standing after it is over and Ichigo will survive. Ichigo takes some of the most damage than almost any other anime character I have seen. And Lee was capable of destroying the floor with his speed but even still after all that he did in that battle the place was still intact. While that move that Grimmjow did that shot those spikes out of his elbow decimated a large pillar, bigger than that of the little battle place that Gaara and Lee fought at with only 1 spike. Ichigo got hit with 5 and was still capable of high tension battle.

But the speed cant be compared because even if you watch the anime they are both basically just teleporting around. Also I wouldnt say Lee is faster anyway.

TsuHanyou
05-14-2008, 11:20 AM
Wow you really think that Lee at 8 gates would multiply him by 1000000. That is absurd. He may get faster but not that much. But I think you forget that Ichigo is fast also. Especially when he has his hollow mask on. But yes I said Ichigo survives his power up but Lee wont kill him before it breaks. They will both be left standing after it is over and Ichigo will survive. Ichigo takes some of the most damage than almost any other anime character I have seen. And Lee was capable of destroying the floor with his speed but even still after all that he did in that battle the place was still intact. While that move that Grimmjow did that shot those spikes out of his elbow decimated a large pillar, bigger than that of the little battle place that Gaara and Lee fought at with only 1 spike. Ichigo got hit with 5 and was still capable of high tension battle.

But the speed cant be compared because even if you watch the anime they are both basically just teleporting around. Also I wouldn't say Lee is faster anyway.

Actually its supposed to be multiplied more.

Not that much?
Your definetly underestimating him, i saw gai at 6 gates, and he was as fast as ichigo, now lee at 8 gates? Thats just gonna be wack.

Like id forget how fast ichigo is, one problem, lees faster.
Lee would kill ichigo before he dies.
Lee could have beaten grimmjow better than ichigo could have.

If lee was hit with 5 at 8 gates, they would probably just bounce off.

Its not teleporting, its moving from place to place at a very fast speed.

vane
05-14-2008, 03:14 PM
Actually its supposed to be multiplied more.
Actually you are over estimating Lee way to much here.
Not that much?
Your definetly underestimating him, i saw gai at 6 gates, and he was as fast as ichigo, now lee at 8 gates? Thats just gonna be wack.

No I am definetly giving credit where credit is due. You are just so completely biased here that you dont listen to facts.
Like id forget how fast ichigo is, one problem, lees faster.
Just because you say it doesnt make it true. Since there is no evidence proving this it is safe to say same speed. Because you cant prove that Lee is faster.
Lee would kill ichigo before he dies.
Again just because you say it doesnt make it true. Ichigo has been shown to be able to sustain massive damage and keep fighting.
Lee could have beaten grimmjow better than ichigo could have.

Yea sure Lee with only the ability to punch and kick cold have taken on someone that cuts down skyscrapers and some attack that stretchs for miles that comes out of his claws. Yea sure that could happen, when Santa Claus comes and knocks on my front door and takes me for a ride in his flying sleigh.
If lee was hit with 5 at 8 gates, they would probably just bounce off.

Ok I dont get the point of this comment. Someone is throwing gates now. Because gates in Naruto from what I have seen are inside someone they arnt actually physical things that can hit someone.
Its not teleporting, its moving from place to place at a very fast speed.

And to clarify I used teleporting as a reference to what it looked like when they moved. So please try and think of other ways to be arrogant.

roshin
05-14-2008, 03:32 PM
Ok I dont get the point of this comment. Someone is throwing gates now. Because gates in Naruto from what I have seen are inside someone they arnt actually physical things that can hit someone.


he was referring to what grimjoww? fired at ichigo. 5 shots.

well details details details. i know none about bleach. :p

but rocklee 8 gates open + soldier pill?

that'll kill bushy brow for sure! lol

but that would be like having a miniature ultraman. without the corny moves anyway. so i say lee. coz for me the 8 gates that were open, is a force not to be reckoned with. then add the pill.

what kind of pill exactly? choji's or kiba's? coz if it's kiba's, lee would last for days [3 i think]. like in naruto kiba battle, kiba's sensei explains.

if it's choji's, whoa. a rock lee butterfly

vane
05-14-2008, 03:40 PM
he was referring to what grimjoww? fired at ichigo. 5 shots.

Ohhh Ok. I get it now. Yea I was really wonderin what he meant there. But no I doubt that they would bounce off for one. And for 2 it cant be proven so they are an official attack that can do strong physical damage if they connect with Lee. Sorry the battle doesnt tilt the way you (pronarutoexpert) want it to. Sorry.

duckofdoom99
05-14-2008, 05:35 PM
It makes no difference. In the magna it specifically says that if you open all 8 gates you will kill your opponent, but at the cost of your own life.

majinsharingan
05-14-2008, 05:38 PM
Lee would win this.
Lee's speed was untraceable by a normal eye at 3 Gates.
Lee's speed was faster than the speed of sound at 4 gates.
And he seemed to get twice as strong each time he open another.
Lee will most likely move as fast as the speed of light with 8 gates, or close to it, he will 100% be faster than Tobi and Minato at 8 gates.
At that speed, Lee could punch THROUGH Ichigo.
One hit and it's over.

AzureKnight
05-14-2008, 09:21 PM
It's really sounding liek the only one besides me who actually watches Bleach is Vane.
Bleach characters are BY FAR more durable than Naruto characters. They sustain massive wounds and continue fighting. But you hit a Naruto character with a kunai and they start crying.

Speed of light? I have to admit, that made me laugh.

And for the record, I was quoting someone else who said that. I'm not that stupid.

Kaden
05-21-2008, 03:44 PM
Isn't the gates equivelant to flash stepping? no normal eye can see flash stepping. and with that mask(i haven't seen it yet), doesn't it protect ichigo from all physical attacks?

and ichigo's bankai is something. its speed vs speed and its going to be great.

duckofdoom99
05-21-2008, 04:32 PM
Ok. Again lee wins, or ties because he can't win. The magna specifically says if you open all 8 gates you will kill your opponent, but then die yourself.

AzureKnight
05-21-2008, 06:09 PM
But that encompasses the Naruto universe, not necessarily the Bleach universe. And the Bleach universe is for the most part stronger than the Naruto universe.

Kaden
05-22-2008, 04:22 AM
But that encompasses the Naruto universe, not necessarily the Bleach universe. And the Bleach universe is for the most part stronger than the Naruto universe.

true. its like the naruto universe 2.0. eveyone has the will to fight, and when they get defeated, they want to get stronger.

Ok. Again lee wins, or ties because he can't win. The magna specifically says if you open all 8 gates you will kill your opponent, but then die yourself.

and once again, thats what naruto's creator said. i think flash stepping is equivelant to the gates in some respects.

AzureKnight
05-22-2008, 11:11 PM
It's more than equivilant... people who are good at Shunpo can travel huge distances in a matter of seconds.

Kaden
05-23-2008, 02:35 AM
I totally agree, but we have to compare the universes fairly

Muffinman
05-29-2008, 03:03 PM
I would have to say Lee, Because While both the mask and 8 gates take a great deal of strain to use, they allow the user to obtain awsome speed and power. But i havent been keeping up with bleach's manga but last time i knew Ichigo could only use his mask for like 11~ seconds or so. Lee would win purely out of time allowed imo.

AzureKnight
05-29-2008, 06:57 PM
In his fight with Grimmjoww, Ichigo had the hollow mask on for almost the entire fight. Time doesn't seem to be a big issue with it anymore.

Kaden
06-04-2008, 03:49 PM
I would have to say Lee, Because While both the mask and 8 gates take a great deal of strain to use, they allow the user to obtain awsome speed and power. But i havent been keeping up with bleach's manga but last time i knew Ichigo could only use his mask for like 11~ seconds or so. Lee would win purely out of time allowed imo.

Ichigo can keep his mask on for quite some time now. Ichigo wins. what does lee have against zangetsu?

Teh Bomb Bijuu
06-04-2008, 03:58 PM
Ichigo has learned to keep his mask on a long time ago
when he was with the Vizards

O btw Ichigo ftw

Dark Naruto
06-04-2008, 03:59 PM
Well I'd say it would be Ichigo or it could be a tie.

Kaden
06-04-2008, 04:03 PM
Well I'd say it would be Ichigo or it could be a tie.

How could lee tie him? every time ichigo gets hit he bounces back with effort. lee dies after two good hits

Teh Bomb Bijuu
06-04-2008, 04:07 PM
Theres no tie and lee can't win
not even Guy could stand up to Ichigo

AzureKnight
06-04-2008, 07:15 PM
Make it Gai and Lee vs Ichigo and you've got more of a fight.

D.I.Y Death
06-09-2008, 01:16 AM
Not to be a dick, but Technically Ichigo can't be seen by Lee or Gai.
Thats pretty much gg right there but on top of that (even if you ignore that) Ichigo's reastu is so strong its crippling to people who have small amounts of it.
Now lets compare a taigutsu user who dosn't have a lot of chakra to the reastu of Ichigo which is pretty damn big especially with the mask on.
Lee will be lucky to move, let alone fight with that factor.
bleachverse is stronger than Narutoverse.

9TailedBijuu
06-12-2008, 06:55 PM
Most of the people in Naruto world would be able to see Ichigo because they have big amounts of spiritual energy but not Lee. Lee was the only one having problems trying to use ninjutsu and my guess is that Lee doesn't have enough spiritual energy to use ninjutsu, he has only physical energy. (+Ichigo can fly)

Now considering these 2 facts we can come to a conclusion that Lee will loose.. His speed and power are truly great but how does he supposed to hit an aponent who is invisible and is also is flying. Lee will eventualy die from using 8 gates without making a scratch to Ichigo.

Even if Lee would be able to see Ichigo he would still loose because when he would start opening the gates Ichigo could use this time to fly about a mile upwards out of Lee's reach and just wait for Lee to die..

Leiko
06-12-2008, 11:08 PM
Ichigo....duh.....