Jiraiya vs. Naruto (OFFICIAL THREAD)

[Raistlin]

Location: Konoha ruins post Chou Shinra Tensei.
Distance: 50 meters apart.
Knowledge: They know everything about each other.
Abilities: As last seen in manga. Both start off in Sage Mode.
Restrictions: Summons are not allowed, may it be for Naruto or Jiraiya. Jiraiya can still use his Sage Mode to the extent seen, however.
Mind-set: In Character, but fighting to kill.

[Angel Spawn666]

Thats easy, jiraiya (Hermit) of course. He hase "The Seal" so he can seal his tails... But if jiraiya didn`t have that seal, i think Jiraiya would win again. Toad vs. 2 tails fox?

Reasons:

1. jiraiya should know all of Narutos Moves.
2. jiraiya can sumon frog, also can Naruto, but jiraiya is expiranced.
3. That explains it... If you need any more reason il be sure to post it!

[Doctor Octogonapus]

Jiriaya of course.
Jiriaya could beat Naruto 4 tails.

[jiraiya_sama]

kk well jiraiya has the ultimate resangan hermit mode and all of the experiance of battle besides the fact he does know all of narutos moves and weaknesses and yes the seal which im sure he is smart enough to only have one so i think he would win not easily though i mean the new move naruto has pwns and stuff but i just think that jirayia is way more experianced so all in all he would win against naruto

[hyugamaster]

jiraiya ofcourse he would win no problem

[Sasori[RedSand]]

Jiraya people Jiraya

[erekwitad]

i think its obvious naruto will win b/c he almost killed jiraiya during their training. with just regular strength, jiraiya would pwn naruto, but naruto has almost limitless chakra and almost killed orochimaru, even if jirayas in hermit mode, i think naruto could pull away w/ the win

[Summer.]

i think its obvious naruto will win b/c he almost killed jiraiya during their training. with just regular strength, jiraiya would pwn naruto, but naruto has almost limitless chakra and almost killed orochimaru, even if jirayas in hermit mode, i think naruto could pull away w/ the win

yes, naruto ALMOST killed jiraiya with 4 tails.

he would never win against jiraiya with just two of them.
not to mention if jiraiya is in hermit mode!

[Soul]

jiraiya would win of course, the only reason he had that mark on his chest is because he wasnt trying to hurt naruto. i mean hes a legendary sannin cmon hes faced worst like pein for example and his summonings.

[Doctor Octogonapus]

i think its obvious naruto will win b/c he almost killed jiraiya during their training. with just regular strength, jiraiya would pwn naruto, but naruto has almost limitless chakra and almost killed orochimaru, even if jirayas in hermit mode, i think naruto could pull away w/ the win

HO HO HO! Merry Christmas have some ownage down the throat because I don't think I can say where it's really gonna go.
SO....

1. It's not obvious why Naruto would win. enlighten me....
2. Naruto did that because Jiriaya was caught off guard and didn't have the seal and did not use HERMIT MODE.
3. seriously? No he didn't He almost beat Jiriaya with half of Kyuubi's power.
4. Jiriaya would own Naruto, indeed.
5. Naruto has near limitless chakra...yet...*gasp*...He's 5-23, fighting record. Lemme guess...the 23 loses were all flukes?
6. Naruto didn't come close to killing Orochimaru. DID YOU SEE HIM DIE. Sasuke killed him. Naruto did a bit of damage. But mostly Orochimaru was dancing around, laughing.
7. Jiriaya's hermit mode makes him the strongest ninja in the world....5th to that of, Yahiko, Pein Pein Pein and Pein.
8. Naruto can pull off the win if this....Naruto is using the Harem Jutsu. But I doubt that would still work...it's basically Satan in the form of a naked woman.
Jiriaya would beat Naruto.
Period.

[shikamaru]

i think its obvious naruto will win b/c he almost killed jiraiya during their training. with just regular strength, jiraiya would pwn naruto, but naruto has almost limitless chakra and almost killed orochimaru, even if jirayas in hermit mode, i think naruto could pull away w/ the win


he had 4 tails.
not 2.
jiraya wins.

[Sentaro]

Naruto. He's the 4th Hokage's son. Hands down. I know that he is the son of the 4th Hokage because I looked it up.

[Doctor Octogonapus]

And we know cause we all read it.
Just because he's the fourth's son doesn't mean he's stronger than the 4th's TEACHER.

[The8tailed1]

Jiraya wins becuase of the fact that he's the one training naruto so he knows what he can do and can't do, while naruto doesn't know the full extent of jiraya's power.

[Sentaro]

It's so Naruto! His clones can kick Jaryia's butt. And don't forget that Kakshi taught him some pretty good moves and Naruto can use his head. Hands down suckers.

[Doctor Octogonapus]

1. Take that sig OFF.
2. It's not Naruto.
3. Jiriaia knows all of Naruto's moves.
4. Jiriaya is in hermit mode.
5. Naruto stands no chance.
6. Jiriaya's rasengan > Naruto's Rasengan
7. Jiriaya's New Rasengan > Naruto's New Rasengan
8. Jiriaya's Form > Naruto's Form
9. Shadow Clones won't do crap
10. Jiriaya's Jutsu's > Naruto's Jutsu's
11. Jiriaya Taijutsu > Naruto's Taijutsu
12. Jiriaya's Genjutsu > Naruto don't have any
13. Jiriaya's Ninjutsu > Naruto's Ninjutsu

So...humor me.
If Jiriaya is stronger in every way...how does Naruto win.

And get rid of the signature.

[The8tailed1]

1. Take that sig OFF.
2. It's not Naruto.
3. Jiriaia knows all of Naruto's moves.
4. Jiriaya is in hermit mode.
5. Naruto stands no chance.
6. Jiriaya's rasengan > Naruto's Rasengan
7. Jiriaya's New Rasengan > Naruto's New Rasengan
8. Jiriaya's Form > Naruto's Form
9. Shadow Clones won't do crap
10. Jiriaya's Jutsu's > Naruto's Jutsu's
11. Jiriaya Taijutsu > Naruto's Taijutsu
12. Jiriaya's Genjutsu > Naruto don't have any
13. Jiriaya's Ninjutsu > Naruto's Ninjutsu

So...humor me.
If Jiriaya is stronger in every way...how does Naruto win.

And get rid of the signature.

I agree.

[Sentaro]

1. I won't get rid of my signature.
2. Jaryia doesn't know all of Naruto's moves.
3. Naruto's Nine-tailed Fox mode can kill Jaryia.
4. The Nine-tailed Naruto has a very strong jutsu that is stronger than the
Rasangan. It's called the "Dark Claw Jutsu". He uses it in episode 133 or
134.

Naruto wins.

And I will never take off my signature. Believe it!

[Doctor Octogonapus]

1. I won't get rid of my signature.
2. Jaryia doesn't know all of Naruto's moves.
3. Naruto's Nine-tailed Fox mode can kill Jaryia.
4. The Nine-tailed Naruto has a very strong jutsu that is stronger than the
Rasangan. It's called the "Dark Claw Jutsu". He uses it in episode 133 or
134.

Naruto wins.

And I will never take off my signature. Believe it!


1. Then I'll report you, it's too big, needs to be smaller.
2. Yes he does. Shadow Clone. Rasengan. Fuuton Rasengan. Summoning. He knows them all.
3. Yes, if it's 9 tailed mode. Otherwise no. Jiriaya has the seal.
4. Dark Claw Jutsu....stronger than Rasengan. Yeah. The Chakra grab with the hand? Or the claw attack? Neither of those did anything.

Naruto loses.

Then you'll be reported. :)

[The8tailed1]

Alright lets end this Jiraya is one of the sanin where as naruto is still just a kid who is still learning.

There is no way he can defeat someone who not only knows more than him but also knows your strengths and weakness as well.

[Lambdadelta]

Naruto would really win this! *cough*

No, Jiraiya would win... Duh...

[Sentaro]

Naruto' Dark Claw Jutsu does do damage to Sasuke. And Naruto becomes the Hokage later on too.

If it was me versus Jaryia, then I would win because I am known as the Legendary Wolf Sannin, the Sannin of the Forest.

[Doctor Octogonapus]

Naruto' Dark Claw Jutsu does do damage to Sasuke.

Naruto didn't do s**t against Sasuke with that move.

And Naruto becomes the Hokage later on too.

He will never be hokage.

If it was me versus Jaryia, then I would win because I am known as the Legendary Wolf Sannin, the Sannin of the Forest.

No you wouldn't.



5. Your argument is completely flawed with no solid evidence.
Jiriaya wins.

[Lambdadelta]

Omg... Even i am going to know u... I knew you would say anything about what he posted... and i knew it was gonna be sumthing like this..

[The8tailed1]

Majinsharingan calm down a bit and you sentaro think before you post that last one made no sense at all.

Jiraya wins hands down.

[Doctor Octogonapus]

I'm not, not calm btw.
If I wasn't calm I'd be typing in Caps in random parts xDDD.

And your right...I prolly should of numbered his too....

There we go.

[hyugamaster]

i say naruto because he can use the tails of the kyuubi but jiraiya can just seal the chakra away

[Doctor Octogonapus]

You said Naruto would win because of the Kyuubi but Jiriaya would seal it away.
So, Jiriaya wins.

[The8tailed1]

alright it takes time for naruto to summon the chakra of the nine tailed fox so by the time he gets started jiraya would have already made a move a prevented him from doing it, leaving naruto without its power and losing the match to Jiraya

[OmegaGame22]

yea jirayah hands down before naruto learned how to master his shadow clones and wind rasegan and now sage mode.. naruto will win now.

[MinatoNamikaze]

Jiriya for sure. He already sealed Kyubi once iirc (probably already mentioned)

[Doctor Octogonapus]

*New official thread*

[TheYellowFlash10]

Naruto wins. he has a lot of options to attack

Sage Mode, Kyuubi, FRS, Kage Bushin spamming

[Munboy Dracule O'Brain]

Jiraiya has been surpassed. Naruto would win with what we've seen.

[WhiteFang]

Naruto wins I say, after going through 431, and I don't have too many doubts, that come 432, he'll be even more beastly. The only advantage I see for J-man is experience, but I guess Naruto's KB's would more than make up. It would be a good battle though.

[Munboy Dracule O'Brain]

All I can really say is Sennin Naruto has shown better feats than Sennin Jiraiya. Also Naruto's base can also give base Jiraiya a tough fight. Tough enough to push him to Sennin mode.

[WhiteFang]

Does the fact that Naruto can only keep up the beastly sage-mode for only a little while change the dynamics?
I'd say yes, considering that J-man basically needs to hold him off till Naruto wears out, leaving him relatively vulnerable.
However, I feel one important deciding factor in this battle will be the summons. Which toads will side with whom? :S

[D.I.Y Death]

Does the fact that Naruto can only keep up the beastly sage-mode for only a little while change the dynamics?
I'd say yes, considering that J-man basically needs to hold him off till Naruto wears out, leaving him relatively vulnerable.
However, I feel one important deciding factor in this battle will be the summons. Which toads will side with whom? :S

I think it could be trouble but judging by the sheer amount of power Naruto has Jiraiya would be in some serious amount of trouble.
On the subject of summons what if Naruto summons ma and pa before Jiraiya does? The Jiraiya can't go into sage mode and Naruto has their nifty genjutsu to really screw Jiraiya over.

[WhiteFang]

^ Exactly. That's what I've been thinking about. A lot will depend on the summons.
I seriously doubt that Naruto has the strength to toss around summons without sage mode, so even in base-form, J-man can keep Naruto busy with say Gamabunta and his other versatile techs.
Acc. to be current situation is such that base Jiraiya and base Naruto would beat the crap out of each other.
Now coming to HM J-man and sage Naruto, first, it depends a hell lot on the summons. Like who the hell Fukasaku and Shima gonna side with?
Basically if they side with Naruto, J-man is screwed. However if they side with Jiraiya... even then Naruto can get into sage mode (but then again we don't know exactly how Naruto did get into this temporary sage mode against Pein.. are some of his clones sitting still at Myobokuzan and dispersing? Or is something else altogether?)
Which really makes this battle a big mess as of now. I'm confused.

[Butter]

Naruto.After reading the past few chapters,Naruto has shown his power which is far surpassed Jiraya.

[Rawr-x]

Naruto wins this.
He's grown to be a hecka awesome ninja, and yeah, after the latest chapters, his power has grown to the point in which Jiraiya would have to do more than summon a toad to win.

[WhiteFang]

Naruto.After reading the past few chapters,Naruto has shown his power which is far surpassed Jiraya.

Naruto wins this.
He's grown to be a hecka awesome ninja, and yeah, after the latest chapters, his power has grown to the point in which Jiraiya would have to do more than summon a toad to win.

Seriously, I don't wanna sound rude to the both of you, but do you guys even remotely bother to read what's going on in the thread?
Let me refresh your memories:
^ Exactly. That's what I've been thinking about. A lot will depend on the summons.
I seriously doubt that Naruto has the strength to toss around summons without sage mode, so even in base-form, J-man can keep Naruto busy with say Gamabunta and his other versatile techs.
Acc. to be current situation is such that base Jiraiya and base Naruto would beat the crap out of each other.
Now coming to HM J-man and sage Naruto, first, it depends a hell lot on the summons. Like who the hell Fukasaku and Shima gonna side with?
Basically if they side with Naruto, J-man is screwed. However if they side with Jiraiya... even then Naruto can get into sage mode (but then again we don't know exactly how Naruto did get into this temporary sage mode against Pein.. are some of his clones sitting still at Myobokuzan and dispersing? Or is something else altogether?)
Which really makes this battle a big mess as of now. I'm confused.

Where's the surety that Naruto can take this battle?
He can hold sage mode for a much shorter period of time than Jiraiya. And we don't even know who the summons i.e. Shima, Fukasaku, Gamaken, Gamabunta, Gamakichi etc. are gonna side with.
If Fukasaku and Shima side with Jiraiya, he's gonna screw over Naruto due to the obvious genjutsu advantage via the toad song and also the fact that Naruto can't hold sage mode long enough and also Jiraiya's added experience.
On the other hand, if the opposite happens, Jiraiya is done for good.

Considering a base-form Vs base-form battle, again it matters who gets which toad.. and how well they coordinate. And I have hardly seen Naruto do anything with the toads. BUT, Naruto has the advantage of Rasenshuriken. However, to make that happen, he needs to get in close range and hit which won't be easy against J-man. With the assistance of his KB spamming, I still see Naruto getting through somehow.. which is also not entirely sure. Which leads me to the conclusion of sitting on the fence when it comes to base mode battle.

[Anthony Sky]

I think it is time someone asked this for we already know or we will know very soon if he has truly surpassed J-man

They are fighting to live so no say 'Jiraiya would never do that against Naruto' or 'Naruto would never do that against Jiraiya'

Location the forest of the Konoha

Starting Distance- 20 yards from one another

Both start out in normal not in Sage mod

[Nikushimi]

Sennin Naruto murderstomps Jiraiya, there's just no contest. He perfected not only Sennin Moodo which Jiraiya couldn't do but Fuuton: Rasen Shuriken as well. Based on feats Naruto's Sennin Moodo is much faster and stronger than Jiraiya's and with his ability to use clones for shit like a double-Chou Oodama Rasengan, I just don't see Jiraiya winning here at all, or even lasting very long.

Although you really should specify location, starting distance, and the knowledge they have of eachother, as these are all important to know. Also, do they start out in Sennin Moodo or not?

[X-Drake]

Naruto Suparsed Jiraya, In more than one way. Just mentioning that shows that there is not contest. Naruto at KN4 is too much for Jiraya, Sage mode even more. Senjutsu moves are powerfuller. ect

Jiraya is raped in this battle. Naruto would tear him a new asshole or two.

[Nikushimi]

Since location, starting distance, and physical state have been given I'm changing my vote to Jiraiya. It'll be a while before either he or Naruto can get into Sennin Moodo and before then I'm sure he can take it. He's far more powerful and skilled and with the terrain of the forest I'm sure he could maneuver Naruto into Yomi Numa or something and then finish him.

[Anthony Sky]

Sorry about the change I made the thread at moments thought so I forgot that stuff

[hyugamaster]

Naruto has surpassed his master...
Jiraiya is pretty good and yada yada but Naruto can crush him...
That in it self is enough to know the victor of this battle.
Naruto vs Jiraiya= No contest

[D.I.Y Death]

I think Naruto would take this. Jiraiya's base form is stronger than Naruto's but Naruto is extremely crafty. And as soon as Sage Mode or 4 tailed kyuubi is achieved Jiraiya is in deep trouble.

[The Judge]

It's hard to say just how quickly Naruto and Jiraiya can enter Sage Mode. But they'll probably both manage to do so. And then, Jiraiya will lose.

Also, the frogs probably won't interfere, knowing both Jiraiya and Naruto. Would Ma and Pa frog even help Jiraiya maintaining Sage Mode against Naruto? Or would they try to stop the battle?

[NaruxHina_4_Ever]

Interesting.
How do the summons go in this battle.
Because if Jiraiya gets Ma and a then his chances increase alot due to the genjutsu and sage abilities that they convey on Jiraiya.

If summons are neutral and so not really a part then I say Naruto takes this handily as he has shown a greater mastery of the sage arts.
also tho good I'm not sure Jiraiya could stop Naruto going sage and in fact Jiraiya needing to go to sage by staying still (If summons restricted) would be a notch in Narutos favor.

[The Judge]

Interesting.
How do the summons go in this battle.
Because if Jiraiya gets Ma and a then his chances increase alot due to the genjutsu and sage abilities that they convey on Jiraiya.

If summons are neutral and so not really a part then I say Naruto takes this handily as he has shown a greater mastery of the sage arts.
also tho good I'm not sure Jiraiya could stop Naruto going sage and in fact Jiraiya needing to go to sage by staying still (If summons restricted) would be a notch in Narutos favor.

It seems that we agree. The summons are confusing, but no matter what, this seems to go in Naruto's favour.

[NaruxHina_4_Ever]

It seems that we agree. The summons are confusing, but no matter what, this seems to go in Naruto's favour.
Yeah.
The summons are about the only things that can tip it in Jiraiyas favor IMO.
But since they use the same summons then.........:xd:

[The Judge]

Yeah.
The summons are about the only things that can tip it in Jiraiyas favor IMO.
But since they use the same summons then.........:xd:

Exactly.

*Jiraiya summons Gamabunta*
Gamabunta: Who summoned me?
Jiraiya: Kill him.
Gamabunta: Lol, I ain't interfering here.