Haku vs. Gaara

[original fox king foxstream]

i dont know that would be somthing to see hakus ice mirors vs garras sand shield thas would be crazy
:haku: :gaara:

[Kakashi18]

I say Gaara :gaara:

[Haku]

Since this is subbed i assume you mean with out The demon inside him?

and Haku is just to fast for Gaara

[Yamada]

I Think Haku Would, Hes More Wit, And Spped.
The Only Thing Is Gaara Has The Ultimate Defence, So It Would Take A While To Beat Around It.

[PriscillaXOXOXOX]

Haku would make Gaara cry like a little baby.

[Shishi Uchiha]

haku

[Super Luigi]

it is haku beacuse he has no sakaku so no blocking sand and nauto had to go demon fox cloak to beat him and that did not even beat him the only thing that beat him is lighting blade and that is a s rank forbidden justu

[Shishi Uchiha]

its not forbidden

[Super Luigi]

yes it is in kakashi gaiden minato tells kakashi never to use it again and ranks it forbidden

[Shishi Uchiha]

if its forbidden then why does he use it so much

[kstylegunz]

haku is pretty strong, if he didnt fight for zabuza, he'll be much much stronger

[Deadlocked]

Just because it's subbed, doesn't mean it's Shippuden.

Shukaku would freakin' murder Haku. Could Ice Mirrors defend against a giant monster made of solid chakra filled sand?

Even is he didn't have the Shukaku, he still has solid sand. Can dinky little needles kill him, when they didn't kill a 12 year old boy?

[Senwyn]

Gaara. He beat the mist person's storm of a thousand needles in the forest of death so Haku's attacks would be useless. The only thing is whether Gaara can break the mirrors with his sand attacks or whether it would just come to a stalemate. I think Gaara could smash them so therefore Gaara would win.

[-x-Sabaku-No-Neko-x-]

gaara ftw! he can just turn into shakaku and like step on the ice mirrors or if its shippuden then he could still kick butt...like senwyn said he beat the rain ninja's storm of a thousand needles so haku's needles wouldn't really make much of a difference other than that he can move faster

[Senwyn]

gaara ftw! he can just turn into shakaku
I forgot about his shukaku form..That's embarrassing! Almost as bad as forgetting Naruto has the Ransengen.
Yeah, he can just smash the mirrors then.
But I don't think Gaara needs the shukaku to win. In fact, I would prefer he won without the shukaku. It feels like cheating to me. >.<

[Tsukiko]

Gaara. He beat the mist person's storm of a thousand needles in the forest of death so Haku's attacks would be useless. The only thing is whether Gaara can break the mirrors with his sand attacks or whether it would just come to a stalemate. I think Gaara could smash them so therefore Gaara would win.

Those were Ninja from Amekagure, the rain village actually. Nothing related to mist at all.

Anyways, I'd say...kinda both. It depends if Gaara-kun had Shukaku or not. But they're both really equally strong, and Im sort of leaning more towards Gaara-kun...buutt..neh.

[caseclosedchild(narurakue]

garra!

[Senwyn]

Those were Ninja from Amekagure, the rain village actually. Nothing related to mist at all.
I knew I'd got that one messed up. The point is, he was completely shielded from the needles and that is Haku's main form of attack. As far as I saw.

[Soul]

Haku Obivously, Water weakens Gaara.

[majinsharingan]

Anyone else read the Forum before debating?
He doesn't have Shukaku any more.
He has the sand, but now it's on his own.
Gaara can still win though.

[BK-nin]

gaara would kick his ass. f***ing cross-dresser.

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

Anyone else read the Forum before debating?
He doesn't have Shukaku any more.
He has the sand, but now it's on his own.
Gaara can still win though.

what forum? what does it say about gaaRa ?

[Shishi Uchiha]

this would be a good fight idk who would win

[PriscillaXOXOXOX]

i still think Haku would win:)hhehe:):):)

[duckofdoom99]

idk this would be a good fight. haku has the mirrors going for him, but with the sand shiled gaara could probably just walk out of them without getting hit. I know he doesnt have shukaku anymore, but he could erect his own barrier and walk out if he wanted to. And haku probably has other jutsu we havent seen since he died so quickly. And then again gaara could just bury him under ground with sand. But idk would be awesome to see.

[Shishi Uchiha]

but remember haku is fast and garras sand might not be able to catch up to haku

[duckofdoom99]

he could just make a ball though, like he did against sasuke in chunnin exams and deidara when the fought and then walk out cuz i dont think senbon would pierce his sand

[Shishi Uchiha]

umm he also has his ice senbon

[jawonb13]

garras wons

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

garras wons

1.that doesn't make sense
2. post reasons pLease, otherwise peopLe can't debate with you !

aLthough i do agree, gaaRa with shukaku wouLd win, he doesn't have it so gaaRa wouLd Lose ! ! !

[majinsharingan]

No he wouldn't.
He still has the sand.
Not to mention his sand can break Haku's Mirrors.

[NaruxHina_4_Ever]

No he wouldn't.
He still has the sand.
Not to mention his sand can break Haku's Mirrors.

Agreed

also it is possible to attack someone in the mirror so he could just flood the battlefield with sand (Created using his own sand like against kimimaro) a give himself a big advantage over haku

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

why heLLo there majisharingan i was awaiting your repLy on the sasuke/naruto thread !

iLL choose not to pretend that i know the current power of gaaRa so iLL Leave this argument as it is !

[majinsharingan]

iLL choose not to pretend that i know the current power of gaaRa so iLL Leave this argument as it is !

Well that's out the window.
You already said he had no power.

He still has the sand manipulation.
Shukaku provided a defense.
That is all.
Why the hell would Gaara have to CONTROL the sand then?

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

Well that's out the window.
You already said he had no power.

He still has the sand manipulation.
Shukaku provided a defense.
That is all.
Why the hell would Gaara have to CONTROL the sand then?

fine, if it must come to this then we shaLL

have you seen gaaRa manipuLate enough sand to form an attack?
i didn't say gaaRa had no power, i simpLy put forth the theory that shukaku provided gaaRa with the chakra to perform the jutsu that he uses

[majinsharingan]

fine, if it must come to this then we shaLL

have you seen gaaRa manipuLate enough sand to form an attack?
i didn't say gaaRa had no power, i simpLy put forth the theory that shukaku provided gaaRa with the chakra to perform the jutsu that he uses

No, it provided him with the defense.
That's why it provided him with the defense and not chakra.
Kyuubi provides Chakra.

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

No, it provided him with the defense.
That's why it provided him with the defense and not chakra.
Kyuubi provides Chakra.

i disagree, i beLieve shukaku provided gaaRa with chakra ! i beLieve that shukaku provided gaaRa with the chakra to have sand armour etc

how do you know for sure that gaaRa onLy used his own chakra?

[majinsharingan]

i disagree, i beLieve shukaku provided gaaRa with chakra ! i beLieve that shukaku provided gaaRa with the chakra to have sand armour etc

how do you know for sure that gaaRa onLy used his own chakra?

Because a Jinchuriki gives you one power.
Kyuubi gives you Near infinite Chakra.
Shukaku gives you an Ultimate Defense.
Also because....Gaara wasn't in Shukaku form for any of his fights but one....therefore he was using his own chakra.

[NaruxHina_4_Ever]

Gaara did use shukakus chakra to aid his sand manipulation abilities to a greater degree then he would be able to normally so Gaara will still be able to perform all the jutsus he could originally (Except the automatic shield and shield of shukaku etc all the demon specific ones) but he won't be able to sustain them for as long until he runs out of chakra.

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

Because a Jinchuriki gives you one power.
Kyuubi gives you Near infinite Chakra.
Shukaku gives you an Ultimate Defense.
Also because....Gaara wasn't in Shukaku form for any of his fights but one....therefore he was using his own chakra.

do you have to be in demon form to be using it's chakra?
if demons don't provide jinchuuriki with chakra then you are saying that it's a coincidence that demons are trapped in kids with Large amounts of chakra !

[NaruxHina_4_Ever]

do you have to be in demon form to be using it's chakra?
if demons don't provide jinchuuriki with chakra then you are saying that it's a coincidence that demons are trapped in kids with Large amounts of chakra !
Not all demons are trapped in kids and some jinchuuriki are not even ninjas just random people.

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

Not all demons are trapped in kids and some jinchuuriki are not even ninjas just random people.

thanks for that, i know not aLL demons are in jinchuuriki, but i won't spoiL the anime for those who don't read the manga !

[majinsharingan]

do you have to be in demon form to be using it's chakra?
if demons don't provide jinchuuriki with chakra then you are saying that it's a coincidence that demons are trapped in kids with Large amounts of chakra !

No. Gaara's Father and Naruto's Father were both Village Leaders. Were both the 4th Village Leader.
Minato had a lot of chakra. Gaara's Father must've too....no one is made Kage without a lot of chakra.

[Dr. Lecter]

without the demons gaara and naruto would not have nearly as much chakra as they do

if naruto hadnt summoned the kyuubis chakra then naruto would be dead because neji shut off all his chakra points

gaara wouldnt last as long in a fight without the shukaku

he would probably still use sand in a fight but it wouldnt be as effective and wouldnt have "rushed" to protect him

without shukaku gaara would have lost to rock lee

[majinsharingan]

without the demons gaara and naruto would not have nearly as much chakra as they do

Duh. They give a little chakra, but only Kyuubi's gives the Jinchuriki near infinite chakra.

if naruto hadnt summoned the kyuubis chakra then naruto would be dead because neji shut off all his chakra points

He wouldn't be dead but that's actually true he would'a lost.

gaara wouldnt last as long in a fight without the shukaku

He did fine against Kimimaru.


without shukaku gaara would have lost to rock lee

Yes and no.
He would've taken a beating, no doubt.
But if the entire thing was played out again, exactly the same, minus Shukaku. It'll still result in Gaara'ss victory. Gaara used the sand armor himself, gaara melted the gourd into sand to stop his fall, Gaara did most of the offensive damage to Lee.

[Uzumaki Naruto 13]

aLthough i do agree, gaaRa with shukaku wouLd win

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

aLthough i do agree, gaaRa with shukaku wouLd win

i feeL cheated ! thats my post from earLier in the thread ! my originaL typing styLe has been utterLy disgraced from this 'academy student' ! ! ! haHAha ! ! !

[majinsharingan]

why do you capitalize random letters?

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

sometimes sentences Look Lame and boring ! i don't usuaLLy capitaLise random Letters, just 'L' and the odd one here and there eg- the 'R' in gaaRa. but nonetheLess it was unique and 'jawonz13' copied it ! weLL actuaLLy he copied my post haHAha ! ! !

[hibar90]

haku will beat gaara anytime. Unless gaara went sukaku. gaara will have no chance attacking the demonic ice mirror. Gaara needs to learn how to move like sasuke or lee to beat the demonic ice mirror. Haku vs no CS2 Kimimaro would be interesting topic though since both are prodigy in each other clan.

[neji64palms]

i would say gaara because in the forest of death that guy shigure shot him of needles and he blocked them out:gaara:would win

[Kyuubi.]

Gaara has ultimate defense and attack techniques that could protect him from Haku's ice mirrors. Gaara has the 1st tail in him too. In shippuden Gaara becomes Kazekage and Haku probably wouldn't be able to become a hokage/kazekage.

[vane]

Gaara fro many reasons. For one we have seen that speed against Gaara just pisses him off. Haku from what I have seen doesnt have to many devestating ninjutsu. So he wont be able to get through Gaara's sand.

[uchiha316]

duh garra he waz much more powerful then naruto at the time naruto had it out wit haku and naruto waz able to beat haku so im sayin garra