Itachi vs Ichigo

[Super Luigi]

itachi would own

[Black Star]

I'm not that far in the Bleach episodes. But I know that Ichigo probably wouldn't notice he was trapped into an illusion so his Bankai would be useless.

[Super Luigi]

agreed

[kstylegunz]

Ichigo will be too fast. Pure reiatsu i doubt itachi can cut up ichigo, plus itachi is bad eyesight he cant see what sasuke does because he's too fast, ichigo is much faster than sasuke imagine what he can do. Plus talk about illusion, ichigo escaped from illusions many times like when he's trapped in the Ririn's illusions and byakuya's senkei(kind of like illuson). I dont think he'll have problems battling itachi

[majinsharingan]

Itachi clearly saw what Sasuke did.
You haven't read 385 apparently.

Sasuke didn't even know he was in Genjutsu.

The battle ends before it starts, Ichigo does not know anything about Itachi.
Ichigo looks at Itachi's eyes, it's over.
And Sasuke didn't even look at Itachi's eyes, and he was still trapped in Genjutsu.

Ichigo doesn't stand a chance.

[kstylegunz]

plus itachi cant see ichigo in shinigami form anyways. Ichigo wins

[majinsharingan]

Yes he can.

[kstylegunz]

Yes he can.

prove it.

[majinsharingan]

Okay...you know the two things between your nose?
Eyes.
He uses those.

[kstylegunz]

Okay...you know the two things between your nose?
Eyes.
He uses those.

Humans cant see hollows or shinigamis.

What makes u think itachi can see ichigo when he's a human too. Even with sharingan he will won't see ichigo.

There is another forum of this, ichigo basically wins.

Ichigo can cut millions and billions of blades in an instant. Look at the fight against Byakuya. Has Itachi ever demonstrated such speed? Hell no. He is dead in one second. No sharigan could ever be that powerful. Right now, Ichigo is much much faster than this(bankai and mask) plus ichigo can shunpo his ass out. Itachi would go blind due to the pressure of Ichigo's reiatsu.


*battle begins*
*ichigo exerts crushing spiritual pressure*
*ichigo uses flashstep*
gg

[majinsharingan]

The sharingan will allow Itachi to see Ichigo. Weather you think so or don't.



*battle begins*
*ichigo exerts crushing spiritual pressure*
*ichigo uses flashstep*
gg

No.
more like

*batle begins*
*ichigo exerts crushing spiritual pressure*
*ichigo uses flashstep*
*ichigo kills Itachi*
*Itachi melts*
*Ichigo falls into space*
*Battle begins*
*Itachi uses Mangekyo*
*Itachi wins*

[kstylegunz]

itahci cant see ichigo, this is 2 different universe. Itachi cant see ichigo u cant argue. in this battle sharingan is only good for seeing through illusions.

Ichigo can cut millions and billions of blades in an instant. Look at the fight against Byakuya. Has Itachi ever demonstrated such speed? Hell no. He is dead in one second. No sharigan could ever be that powerful. Right now, Ichigo is much much faster than this(bankai and mask) plus ichigo can shunpo his ass out.Even if itachi can see ichigo Itachi would go blind due to the pressure of Ichigo's reiatsu.

itachi is strong but he'll need more than illusions to beat ichigo

[Kakashi18]

Itachi wins..before it begins..hehe..rhymed..fine..don't laugh..jerks..

[majinsharingan]

itahci cant see ichigo, this is 2 different universe. Itachi cant see ichigo u cant argue. in this battle sharingan is only good for seeing through illusions.

No he can see Ichigo.
See this thread.
Itachi vs. Ichigo.
Which means Itachi and see Ichigo.
Other wise the thread would be called.
Ichigo.

Mangekyo Sharingan, confrim this.
Can Itachi see Ichigo?
If he can't this thread is pointless and needs to be locked.

[kstylegunz]

itahci cant see ichigo, this is 2 different universe. Itachi cant see ichigo u cant argue. in this battle sharingan is only good for seeing through illusions.

No he can see Ichigo.
See this thread.
Itachi vs. Ichigo.
Which means Itachi and see Ichigo.
Other wise the thread would be called.
Ichigo.

Mangekyo Sharingan, confrim this.
Can Itachi see Ichigo?
If he can't this thread is pointless and needs to be locked.

fine, even if itahci can see ichigo, he'll just create after images.
If itachi tries to use finger illusion or tsukoyomi, ichigo will just use getsuga tenshou(when hes in mask state his attack covers more area, faster, stronger and he can use it without limits). Ichigo can evade itachi's eye because he's fast enough, he can shunpo behind and stab him. Byakuya is faster than itachi but he can't see through ichigo and that time he only had bankai, now he can use vizard mask

[majinsharingan]

Itachi has Genjutsu. Once Ichigo can be seen by Itachi, which is before the battle, it is over.
Itachi needs only to see Ichigo for him to cast the genjutsu.
Then Ichigo can't hurt Itachi.

[Kakashi18]

Itachi has Genjutsu. Once Ichigo can be seen by Itachi, which is before the battle, it is over.
Itachi needs only to see Ichigo for him to cast the genjutsu.
Then Ichigo can't hurt Itachi.

agreed

[kstylegunz]

No, Ichigo will always go behind him. If hes at vizard state theres no way itachi can see ichigo. Ichigo becomes faster than bullets(3 times faster than speed of sound in air at sea level and 0°C.)

[majinsharingan]

He can see Ichigo.
Your arguing in a Ichigo vs. Itachi thread.
It wouldn't be vs. Itachi if it wasn't in fact vs. Itachi.

[kstylegunz]

He can see Ichigo.
Your arguing in a Ichigo vs. Itachi thread.
It wouldn't be vs. Itachi if it wasn't in fact vs. Itachi.

Itachi won't be able to see a bullet coming at him, thats like the speed of ichigo vizard state

[majinsharingan]

GENJUTSU.
He doesn't need to see anything.
Before the battle begins, Itachi can and will entrap Ichigo in genjutsu. From there, Ichigo cannot win.

[kstylegunz]

GENJUTSU.
He doesn't need to see anything.
Before the battle begins, Itachi can and will entrap Ichigo in genjutsu. From there, Ichigo cannot win.

beginning of the battle ichigo wont waste time, he'll shunpo behind and he'll kill him without wasting time, itachi will die in less than millisecond, in less than millisecond itachi won't perform any genjutsus

[majinsharingan]

The genjutsu is cast BEFORE the battle begins.

[kstylegunz]

then ichigo will kill itachi before the he even moves, thats what he does to all his enemies.

[majinsharingan]

How would that work!
lol xDD
"Begin! Up...it already ended"

[kstylegunz]

How would that work!
lol xDD
"Begin! Up...it already ended"

lol yeah :p

[Super Luigi]

ichigo has to look at itachi but not his eyes but what happen around ep 13 in shippuden naruto looked at itachis finger and got caught in a genjustu so ichigo dies

[PriscillaXOXOXOX]

Itachi, because he's dope.

[majinsharingan]

ichigo has to look at itachi but not his eyes but what happen around ep 13 in shippuden naruto looked at itachis finger and got caught in a genjustu so ichigo dies

Actually, now you don't even have to look at Itachi.
Itachi has to look at you.

[BK-nin]

itachi could just obliterate ichigo.

[kstylegunz]

did u guys forget that ichigo is much much faster and stronger than sasuke? Sasuke is even too fast for itachi, imagine what ichigo would do. milisecond after battle begins itachi is already dead and didn't even know what just happened. Like what ichigo did to that pavillion espada. The result will be the same.

[BK-nin]

did u guys forget that ichigo is much much faster and stronger than sasuke? Sasuke is even too fast for itachi, imagine what ichigo would do. milisecond after battle begins itachi is already dead and didn't even know what just happened. Like what ichigo did to that pavillion espada. The result will be the same.

uchihas have time/space jutsus. plus what would happen if ichigo got put in tsukiyomi? HARDCORE RAPE! ichigo would be in such pain he would wish he would just die, but death won't come cuz it's not real pain.

[kstylegunz]

he kill itachi before he even casts genjutsu. Ichigo always kill an opponent before they even do anything. Before they even knew what happened they already dead

[BK-nin]

he kill itachi before he even casts genjutsu. Ichigo always kill an opponent before they even do anything. Before they even knew what happened they already dead
since when has he ever done that? plus you won't know when the genjutsu comes;that's just how good itachi is.

[kstylegunz]

since when has he ever done that? plus you won't know when the genjutsu comes;that's just how good itachi is.

byakuya, pavillin espada, grimmjow, i can keep going. Especially when hes at vizard state

[BK-nin]

byakuya, pavillin espada, grimmjow, i can keep going. Especially when hes at vizard state
byakuya: that fight took forever and ogichi interfered

mexican ex-espada: he could have beat him quick but he was afraid of using too much energy using bankai and the mask; in the end he had to, but he suffered for his underestimation.

grimmjow: ichigo got hardcore jail raped twice and the second time grimmjow only had one arm

[mangekyouking]

no chance would itachi stand vs. ichigo in bankai!

[mason999]

Itachi would win... Its no supprise to any of us that Itachi is stronger than ichigo

[kstylegunz]

But ichig wont waste time when hes at vizard state, itachi will die. Itachi need to see an opponent to use his genjutsus which he cant when he cant see what ichigo is doing. Ichigo is faster than a m16 gunfire shot at 0 degrees which is much faster than speed of sound. Even faster than lee

[BK-nin]

But ichig wont waste time when hes at vizard state, itachi will die. Itachi need to see an opponent to use his genjutsus which he cant when he cant see what ichigo is doing. Ichigo is faster than a m16 gunfire shot at 0 degrees which is much faster than speed of sound. Even faster than lee
itachi's genjutsu go deeper than that. he just has to look at you. and itachi is faster than lee too cuz of his time/space jutsus and his raw talent. and ichigo's mediocre swordplay is no good against a ninja.

[kstylegunz]

itachi's genjutsu go deeper than that. he just has to look at you. and itachi is faster than lee too cuz of his time/space jutsus and his raw talent. and ichigo's mediocre swordplay is no good against a ninja.

Power and speed of ichigo, i don't think any1 in naruto can keep up with up with it. Sasuke is even too fast for itachi and ichigo is much much faster than that. Before itachi even blinks hes already dead

[satanspawn666]

first off with bad eyesight and the fact that because ichigo is a soul reaper so no human eye can see him exept those with high spiritual pressure itachi wouldnt even be able to see him not to mention the fact that ichigo is lightning fast and he always has his hallow the only people who would actualy be able to see him would be the huga with the byakugan

[Lacuis]

i agree with you ichigo would win easily^-^

[BK-nin]

Power and speed of ichigo, i don't think any1 in naruto can keep up with up with it. Sasuke is even too fast for itachi and ichigo is much much faster than that. Before itachi even blinks hes already deadlike i said before, time/space jutsu. plus what would happen if ichigo got cooked with flames that are hotter than the sun.

first off with bad eyesight and the fact that because ichigo is a soul reaper so no human eye can see him exept those with high spiritual pressure itachi wouldnt even be able to see him not to mention the fact that ichigo is lightning fast and he always has his hallow the only people who would actualy be able to see him would be the huga with the byakugan
what do you think chakra is made of, prune juice? it's physical and spiritual energy put together. and what you think the fourth hokage used to trap the kyuubi, some type of demon? it was a shinigami. in other words even with itachi's bad eyesight he can still see ichigo. and have you ever heard of a blind sworsman; that's basically what itachi is. he doesn't sight as long as the eyes are still there. he could just track down ichigo's ever-leaking spiritual energy. from there just use amaterasu and it's over.

[kstylegunz]

like i said before, time/space jutsu. plus what would happen if ichigo got cooked with flames that are hotter than the sun.


what do you think chakra is made of, prune juice? it's physical and spiritual energy put together. and what you think the fourth hokage used to trap the kyuubi, some type of demon? it was a shinigami. in other words even with itachi's bad eyesight he can still see ichigo. and have you ever heard of a blind sworsman; that's basically what itachi is. he doesn't sight as long as the eyes are still there. he could just track down ichigo's ever-leaking spiritual energy. from there just use amaterasu and it's over.

They are 2 different worlds. Btw ichigo is way too fast and powerful for itachi so he'll win.

[BK-nin]

They are 2 different worlds. Btw ichigo is way too fast and powerful for itachi so he'll win.

1. chakra is a real energy that can be gained with training. and like i said before ichigo won't know hen the genjutsu will hit it just will. and i doubt that ichigo can see through a shroud of mist if he had to. itachi hides in the mist and hits ichigo with great fireball jutsu and finishes it with amaterasu.

[Shishi Uchiha]

ummm this is pretty hard

[UzumakiNaruto<3]

I really cant vote in these things because my fandom always applies when i say somthing. Like i cant admit Naruto or ichigo would lose to anyone. Its hard when they are 2 different animes because different things apply. Im not so sure who would win this one...

[kstylegunz]

Battle begins
*itachi gets sliced*
gg?

[Uchiha-Madara]

i would think that it would be a tie at leat for a while

[Haku Uchiha-32]

It's pretty equal I would say.

[Uchiha-Madara]

i agree

[A-Bomb]

hmmmm...probably itachi... i mean genjutsus....yeah

[Uchiha-Madara]

true true

[SHiN0]

ichigo all the way:D

[Uchiha-Madara]

i think he would have a chance if he went hollow

[A-Bomb]

yeah the whole 11-12 seconds he would be in genjutsu

[Dr. Lecter]

itachi just needs to use his genjutsu and ichigo is dead

[kstylegunz]

lol if ichigo looks at itachi, itachi is dead

[kstylegunz]

Genjutsus will be too slow for ichigo

[kstylegunz]

itachi loses because hes too slow to keep up with ichigo

[BK-nin]

Genjutsus will be too slow for ichigoa genjutsu speed has nothing to do with anything. as long as itachi looks at him he's screwed.

itachi loses because hes too slow to keep up with ichigolet's not forget about that itachi is not only a ninja but he can warp places.

[kstylegunz]

Ichigo can warp to places because he's too fast, itachi will miss all of his attacks

[BK-nin]

Ichigo can warp to places because he's too fast, itachi will miss all of his attacks
ichigo moves really fast, he DOESN"T warp. and itachi wouldn't be attacking he'd be looking at him.(genjutsus again)

[ichigohollow]

ichigo will win based on the fact that itachi cant win. itachi would not be able to use Genjutsu. there are two ways of getting out of genjutsu 1) person have to use his sprit pressure to release himself or 2) other forced sprit pressure into them. with that being said ichigo has to much spirt pressure. it leaking out that y his sword always in its second form so genjutsu is out the picture so ichigo will win without even going ban kai

[Rultzbud]

Itachi's strong.. I'll hand him that, but against Ichigo, it's no contest, Ichigo is stronger, faster, and has a variety of attacks to fight.

[majinsharingan]

Itachi's strong.. I'll hand him that, but against Ichigo, it's no contest, Ichigo is stronger, faster, and has a variety of attacks to fight.

Genjutsu.
And Itachi is actually extremely fast to I believe.
and Ichigo fights close range and is only extremely fast in Bankai, he won't go Bankai for Itachi if he doesn't stand a chance.
And dude....he has like 5 Attacks.
Swing Sword Down.
Swing Sword Up.
Swing Sword Left.
Swing Sword Right.
Bankai.

Itachi has Genjutsu, all it takes to win.

[Rultzbud]

Genjutsu.
And Itachi is actually extremely fast to I believe.
and Ichigo fights close range and is only extremely fast in Bankai, he won't go Bankai for Itachi if he doesn't stand a chance.
And dude....he has like 5 Attacks.
Swing Sword Down.
Swing Sword Up.
Swing Sword Left.
Swing Sword Right.
Bankai.

Itachi has Genjutsu, all it takes to win.

He's still got 4 more attacks than Itachi.

Genjutsu's good, but Ichigo wouldn't fall into it, and if he did, he could go bankai, with his Reiatsu to counter the genjutsu. Ichigo would win, I know this is mostly a Naruto site (as if the site name isn't obvious enough) but Ichigo would win, if you sit and think about it. If Itachi catches him in the Tsuku, and Ichigo gets his mind warped, all he has to do is go Viazard mode, and then it's all over..

[Teh4th:)]

Well, I think Ichigo is stronger.
He has this hollow thingy inside him.

[vane]

How could you do this to me. Make me choose between 2 beloved characters. It'll take me some time to play out this scenario in my head a couple of times. Cause both are really good.

[ichigohollow]

r u seriuos majinsharingan did u read anything i wrote. genjutsu will not work againist ichigo so the fight comes down to strengh and speed which ichigo wins on both against itachi. so can u come up with another for itachi to win cause genjutsu aint cuttin it.

o yeah if u didnt read what i wrote its post #65

[Teh4th:)]

How could you do this to me. Make me choose between 2 beloved characters. It'll take me some time to play out this scenario in my head a couple of times. Cause both are really good.
Lol.
I know you can pick one.
You have a great mind.
Great mind indeed.
:)

[majinsharingan]

He's still got 4 more attacks than Itachi.


Sharingan
Genjutsu
Tsukoyomi
Ameratsu
Susano
and a whole mess of fire jutsu.


Genjutsu's good, but Ichigo wouldn't fall into it, and if he did, he could go bankai, with his Reiatsu to counter the genjutsu.

Okay, No.
Reiatsu has no effect on genjutsu, the only thing capable of getting you out of genjutsu is a NARUTO technique.
You all get that?
NARUTO technique.
Ichigo is from Bleach not Naruto, therefore cannot get out of Genjutsu.


If Itachi catches him in the Tsuku, and Ichigo gets his mind warped, all he has to do is go Viazard mode, and then it's all over..

No. It's really not.



r u seriuos majinsharingan did u read anything i wrote.

No, I generally skip comments from fans because they tend to be biased about it.

genjutsu will not work againist ichigo

Genjutsu works on everyone with a mind.
Ichigo has a mind.
Genjutsu works on Ichigo.

so the fight comes down to strengh and speed which ichigo wins on both against itachi. so can u come up with another for itachi to win cause genjutsu aint cuttin it.

lol.
Genjutsu ain't cuttin it.
Okay, try flames hotter than the sun or a black hole. That do anything for you?
But no matter, Genjutsu will win this fight.

[ichigohollow]

a NARUTO technique if u r going to say that we shouldn't be having a debate on who will win then when the same thing in both manga are the same the only different is that they r called different things: chakra and spirt power its both power within the person that give them the ability to perform jutsu or bankai but u r still sayin it wont work because it a NARUTO thing then this whole debate is nonsense

[majinsharingan]

a NARUTO technique if u r going to say that we shouldn't be having a debate on who will win then when the same thing in both manga are the same the only different is that they r called different things: chakra and spirt power its both power within the person that give them the ability to perform jutsu or bankai but u r still sayin it wont work because it a NARUTO thing then this whole debate is nonsense

No, I'm saying he can't get out because 1. Itachi doesn't use simple genjutsu and 2. To get out of simple jutsu you have to use the Dispelling Jutsu which is only in NARUTO.
Second of all, Chakra is Physical and Spiritual Power, Ichigo has both and uses both but his sword and bankai is strictly spiritual.

[vane]

Well I thought about it for a while and the only thing the only thing that keeps bringing me back to Itachi is the genjutsu. I mean the main villian in Bleach uses illusions. But its still hard to say if Ichigo attacks fast enough Itachi wont have time to counter but all Itachi has to do is point a finger and you are in his Tsukiyomi.

I mean if Ichigo could go Vizard longer i would give a lot more props to Ichigo. Im sure he will be able to later.

[majinsharingan]

Well I thought about it for a while and the only thing the only thing that keeps bringing me back to Itachi is the genjutsu. I mean the main villian in Bleach uses illusions. But its still hard to say if Ichigo attacks fast enough Itachi wont have time to counter but all Itachi has to do is point a finger and you are in his Tsukiyomi.

I mean if Ichigo could go Vizard longer i would give a lot more props to Ichigo. Im sure he will be able to later.

No actually all he has to do is look at Itachi and he is in the genjutsu and Aizen uses Illusions? Well not like these.

[ichigohollow]

that is correct on the dispell jutsu but in episode "Hidden Sphere - It is Named...!" Naruto was saved by Chiyo and Sakura after his failed attempt to release himself by forcing chakra into his body they never used a jutsu and if u agree that ichigo has both Physical and Spiritual Power with some Will power ichigo had able to release himself from any genjutsu regardless of who casting it

[duckofdoom99]

No, I'm saying he can't get out because 1. Itachi doesn't use simple genjutsu and 2. To get out of simple jutsu you have to use the Dispelling Jutsu which is only in NARUTO.
Second of all, Chakra is Physical and Spiritual Power, Ichigo has both and uses both but his sword and bankai is strictly spiritual.The "dispelling jutsu" is just where you push chakra to your head and hope you have enough to break the jutsu. If i am not mistaken ichigo has so much spirit pressure this should be no problem to break it.

[ichigohollow]

that what i been trying to telling this kid ichigo has to much energy genjutsu will never work

[Ido]

Lol, wow you got this all wrong Ichigohollow, in the bleach world they don't even know how to defend them selves againts genjutsu, so Ichigo loses instantly if Itachi does his Illusions.

[duckofdoom99]

Lol, wow you got this all wrong Ichigohollow, in the bleach world they don't even know how to defend them selves againts genjutsu, so Ichigo loses instantly if Itachi does his Illusions.Actually the main evil guy uses illusions. Also he could break it on accident without knowing he is in it. How often does he just unleash his spirit pressure? A lot. He will easily have enough to break the genjutsu whether with purpose or not.

[ichigohollow]

Lol, wow you got this all wrong Ichigohollow, in the bleach world they don't even know how to defend them selves againts genjutsu, so Ichigo loses instantly if Itachi does his Illusions.

lol r u serious have u every seen ichigo get caught by an illusions. Aizen has never put ichigo in an illusion even when he put whole soul society under an illusion

[Eli]

why is it that every time someone puts itachi in a battle the only thing they can
say its itachi wins cause of genjutse, i mean i dont hate itachi but come one he is a ninja and genjutse is not his only move can somebady please give another reason why itachi will win rather than genjutse. cause my opinion is ichigo will, win not cause of his bankie but the fact that he has a sword and a hollow mask.
Also itachi is over rated

[duckofdoom99]

lol r u serious have u every seen ichigo get caught by an illusions. Aizen has never put ichigo in an illusion even when he put whole soul society under an illusionLol read again. I didnt say he had. I said he uses them so people would understand how to get out of them and it has to be assumed somebody taught ichigo how to do so. Either way I also said with the massive energy Ichigo wastes eventually he will release enough to free him even if he doesn't mean to.

[vane]

lol r u serious have u every seen ichigo get caught by an illusions. Aizen has never put ichigo in an illusion even when he put whole soul society under an illusion

Actually right after Ichigo fought Byakuya and Aizen showed his true colors Ichigo went to attack him and Aizen cought it with his finger then Ichigo got slashed. It was part of his Illusions.

[majinsharingan]

why is it that every time someone puts itachi in a battle the only thing they can
say its itachi wins cause of genjutse, i mean i dont hate itachi but come one he is a ninja and genjutse is not his only move can somebady please give another reason why itachi will win rather than genjutse. cause my opinion is ichigo will, win not cause of his bankie but the fact that he has a sword and a hollow mask.
Also itachi is over rated

I hate Itachi.
Completely hate the bastard.
I am judging this strictly on the fact that Itachi's Genjutsu is Unrivaled, that this is unlike any other Genjutsu Ichigo has encountered, that even if Ichigo can get out of Genjutsu he can't get out of this one because the only thing that can beat Sharingan genjutsu is a stronger Sharingan which Ichigo does not have. Second of all, I am judging by the fact that Itachi is a Genjutsu fighter, would you call me on it if I said Kurenei would win because of Genjutsu?



lol r u serious have u every seen ichigo get caught by an illusions. Aizen has never put ichigo in an illusion even when he put whole soul society under an illusion


lol are you serious? You are being completely biased about this and I bet this'll end with everyone giving up because it drags on to long.
The ONE and ONLY thing that will get you out of Sharingan genjutsu is a stronger sharingan.
Ichigo does not have that so quit saying he can get out of it because he can't.
Show me Ichigo using a Sharingan, show me fighting a Naruto character, show me when he has ever encountered Genjutsu of this level? Illusions and Genjutsu are the same, and they are very different, Illusions is a Distraction, Genjutsu is a Weapon.

[vane]

I hate Itachi.
Completely hate the bastard.
I am judging this strictly on the fact that Itachi's Genjutsu is Unrivaled, that this is unlike any other Genjutsu Ichigo has encountered, that even if Ichigo can get out of Genjutsu he can't get out of this one because the only thing that can beat Sharingan genjutsu is a stronger Sharingan which Ichigo does not have. Second of all, I am judging by the fact that Itachi is a Genjutsu fighter, would you call me on it if I said Kurenei would win because of Genjutsu?






lol are you serious? You are being completely biased about this and I bet this'll end with everyone giving up because it drags on to long.
The ONE and ONLY thing that will get you out of Sharingan genjutsu is a stronger sharingan.
Ichigo does not have that so quit saying he can get out of it because he can't.
Show me Ichigo using a Sharingan, show me fighting a Naruto character, show me when he has ever encountered Genjutsu of this level? Illusions and Genjutsu are the same, and they are very different, Illusions is a Distraction, Genjutsu is a Weapon.

I agree. But Ichigo is super awesome.

[ichigohollow]

I hate Itachi.
lol are you serious? You are being completely biased about this and I bet this'll end with everyone giving up because it drags on to long.

it's not that I'm biased i just don't believe genjutsu will work on Ichigo with his leaking spirit power do we at less agree that with out ichigo being caught in genjutsu that ichigo will win and that this whole discussion is that will genjutsu work on ichigo

[majinsharingan]

it's not that I'm biased i just don't believe genjutsu will work on Ichigo with his leaking spirit power do we at less agree that with out ichigo being caught in genjutsu that ichigo will win and that this whole discussion is that will genjutsu work on ichigo

Ichigo would win yes, but Itachi has Genjutsu, he will 100% lose.

[BK-nin]

it's not that I'm biased i just don't believe genjutsu will work on Ichigo with his leaking spirit power do we at less agree that with out ichigo being caught in genjutsu that ichigo will win and that this whole discussion is that will genjutsu work on ichigo

itachi has time/space jutsus meaning he's faster. plus in the case of ichigo all itachi needs is a good genjutsu, ichigo's the tied of person who faints at the sight of serious injury. now imagine him thinking that he's getting stabbed by all the espada.

[ichigohollow]

itachi has time/space jutsus meaning he's faster. plus in the case of ichigo all itachi needs is a good genjutsu, ichigo's the tied of person who faints at the sight of serious injury. now imagine him thinking that he's getting stabbed by all the espada.

true, he does seem like that kind of person but like every Protagonist when there friends and family are in trouble they exploded with energy to SAVE THE DAY lol so i dont know

[vane]

itachi has time/space jutsus meaning he's faster. plus in the case of ichigo all itachi needs is a good genjutsu, ichigo's the tied of person who faints at the sight of serious injury. now imagine him thinking that he's getting stabbed by all the espada.

Not saying your wrong but where does it show that Itachi can use time/space jutsus? Because as far as I'm conserned Ichigo is faster than Itachi.

[majinsharingan]

Not saying your wrong but where does it show that Itachi can use time/space jutsus? Because as far as I'm conserned Ichigo is faster than Itachi.

Susano.
and I believe Itachi is as fast as Ichigo(I think so but I can't remember where I saw it someone correct me on this).

[vane]

I thought Susanoo was a Summon/genjutsu/sealing jutsu. Not saying your wrong but please explain to me how it is a time/space jutsu. Cause I thought Kakashi's move was the time/space jutsu.

[majinsharingan]

I thought Susanoo was a Summon/genjutsu/sealing jutsu. Not saying your wrong but please explain to me how it is a time/space jutsu. Cause I thought Kakashi's move was the time/space jutsu.

Yeah I can't remember if it was a Fake Script or in the Manga where Itachi explained it, if it was the script then you are right.

[vane]

where would I find the script your talking about. I would like to check it out.

[majinsharingan]

where would I find the script your talking about. I would like to check it out.

Idk I typed in Naruto Chapter 380something in Google and it was the first result, won't be now because that chapter is out.

[vane]

Hmm. I would like to know more about it myself. But as I posted earlier those were the only things I got out of it. And supposedly while its up he's supposed to be invincible or something while it lasts from what Zetsu said.

[BK-nin]

Not saying your wrong but where does it show that Itachi can use time/space jutsus? Because as far as I'm conserned Ichigo is faster than Itachi.

the uchihas could warp when their sharingans got to a certain level. like that dude itachi killed.

[vane]

Where does it show this at. Like I said I have never actually heard of and Uchiha warping around. The only person I have ever seen use some kind of teleportation is Minato. Some say when Naruto seen Sasuke for the first time in a couple years that, that was warping but Yamoto even said 'wow hes fast' not 'did he teleport'

[BK-nin]

Where does it show this at. Like I said I have never actually heard of and Uchiha warping around. The only person I have ever seen use some kind of teleportation is Minato. Some say when Naruto seen Sasuke for the first time in a couple years that, that was warping but Yamoto even said 'wow hes fast' not 'did he teleport'

sasuke and shisui did it

[majinsharingan]

sasuke and shisui did it

Shishi is not a valid point as he was never shown but once.
But yes, Sasuke did it.

[vane]

But Yamato said he was fast. I dont think he actually teleported from what Yamato said. I think Sasuke is just really fast cause I think they would have made a big deal about it if he teleported, cause that would mean he is better than Minato cause Minato had to use markers to teleport.

[HyuugaHanabi]

But Yamato said he was fast. I dont think he actually teleported from what Yamato said. I think Sasuke is just really fast cause I think they would have made a big deal about it if he teleported, cause that would mean he is better than Minato cause Minato had to use markers to teleport. Maybe sasuke's just fast. nobody knows.

[vane]

^^ Thats what I believe. I just think there would be a bigger deal about it if he did teleport.

[BK-nin]

^^ Thats what I believe. I just think there would be a bigger deal about it if he did teleport.

maybe he can slow down time

[Katon]

Ichigo. Itachi can't see Soul energy, and the only time Ichigo has any power is in his soul reaper form, which people can't see, besides other soul reapers.

[BK-nin]

Ichigo. Itachi can't see Soul energy, and the only time Ichigo has any power is in his soul reaper form, which people can't see, besides other soul reapers.
spiritual energy is half of what chakra is. just burn him a few times with ammy.

[HyuugaHanabi]

Ichigo gets shot down by amaterasu.

[vane]

maybe he can slow down time

Like I said if he did something that amazing it would have been a bigger deal. He just uses regular body flicker. His body flicker is really fast no doubt but he doesnt slow down time.

[BK-nin]

Like I said if he did something that amazing it would have been a bigger deal. He just uses regular body flicker. His body flicker is really fast no doubt but he doesnt slow down time.

with all the stuff they do on that show is it really seem impossible. but the point is that itachi can kick ichigo's ass.

[vane]

with all the stuff they do on that show is it really seem impossible. but the point is that itachi can kick ichigo's ass.

Im not saying it is impossible but like I said slowing down time would be a bigger deal and somebody would have explained it. But yea I give the win to Itachi with Tsukiyomi.

[BK-nin]

Im not saying it is impossible but like I said slowing down time would be a bigger deal and somebody would have explained it. But yea I give the win to Itachi with Tsukiyomi.not really, it would just seem as if you moves really really fast, no one would be able to explain that. but i agree with you, itachi doesn't need to do much to ichigo.

[Blaze The Poke Master]

i say ichigo if he goes all out itachi is dead and ichigo is a close combat guy and itachi is not, if ichigo comes close its over for itachi

[Blaze The Poke Master]

Im not saying it is impossible but like I said slowing down time would be a bigger deal and somebody would have explained it. But yea I give the win to Itachi with Tsukiyomi.

if ichigo closes his eyes while itachi uses tsukiyomi he will have a chance at winning

[ichigohollow]

sasuke was able to use speed againist itachi after there showdown with genjutsu and i think sasuke speed is equal to ichigo speed flash step while ichigo is in regular form if ichigo was to use his bankai or even better dawn his hollow mask w/ bankai his speed would be 100 X faster then sasuke now with that speed he would be faster than a blink (blink of an eye) so ichigo is able to to kill itachi before itachi could begin his genjutsu the match will be over in a blink of the eye

[majinsharingan]

Itachi would win no question.

Ichigo cannot get out of Genjutsu, and enough of this BS about he'll kill him in less than a second, Ichigo is super fast when using Bankai, and he doesn't start a battle using Bankai, secondly, I've never once seen any Bleach fight go down like that, I haven't seen any fight go down like that, that's just an attempt at winning the debate, keep it out of the debate because it's not a part of it.
Thirdly,

Genjutsu>Ichigo
Invincibility>Ichigo
The Sun>Ichigo

Genjutsu is almost instant.

I think enough has been said.

[shika shuffle]

ichigo he could slice him up