View Full Version : Orochimaru vs. Voldemort
GangstaKage
02-15-2008, 09:28 PM
Snake genius guy versus the Aveda Kedavra wizard
Who would win??
IownU
02-15-2008, 09:47 PM
Orochimaru wins because of his forbidden jutsus
KyubiiRage
02-16-2008, 01:21 AM
Voldemort hes got Horuxrucxes,spells which are also forbidden and he is really imortall.
aarthans
02-22-2008, 12:36 PM
Orochimaru cause he's not only skillful in techniques and forbidden ways of preserving himself, he is also good in taijutsu whereas Voldemort w/o his wand is extremely vulnerable.
sHaoLin_ruGby
02-22-2008, 01:26 PM
true, orochimaru couLd easiLy disarm voLdemort of his wand and that's probabLy that ! pLus orochimaru can use genjutsu !
KyubiiRage
02-24-2008, 10:03 PM
But Voldemort cant die.Remember Horoxrux.The Guy knows more magic than Dumbledore.Dumbledore the most powerfulest wizard ever.Vol can derstroy Oros body with a spell
aarthans
02-25-2008, 12:27 PM
But Orochimaru could only just dodge it. If harry and the others could dodge spells, expect more from Oro who is a skilled ninja. and Voldy doesn't really have more magic than Dumbledore.
KyubiiRage
02-27-2008, 02:06 AM
Vol does know more magic.Dumbldore sad so.
Anbuhaku
02-27-2008, 02:12 AM
oro could win
aarthans
02-27-2008, 09:41 AM
Have you read the 7th book? cause it plainly stated there that Voldy DID die. Harry destroyed all horcruxes and the many horcruxes Voldy makes, the more weak his original self becomes. Unlike Oro who could just use new bodies at a whim. I think Oro had gone closer to immortality than what Voldy's accomplished.
KyubiiRage
02-28-2008, 04:17 AM
I have the 7th book.Yes Vol lost his Horuxruxes.But to make it fair Vol should have them in the battle.He dies yes but only because of the Elder Wand.Oro does not have the Elder Wand.Dumbledore says in the books that Vol knows more magic spells and stuff.
aarthans
02-28-2008, 12:29 PM
having horcruxes in battle would be a foolish thing to do. Its merely presenting to your opponent what they should destroy to get rid of the original self. Suppose that Vol does really know more magic but all this magic would be useless without a wand and if Oro manages to take it off Voldy's hand then the battle is decided. Oro wins. But if Oro doesn't manage to take off the wand, he could easily dodge voldy's spells and stab him with a kunai at a blind spot. Voldy didn't die just because of the Elder Wand. Remember that the previous possesors of the Elder Wand were killed that's why it's been handed down to different wizards and witches.
KingTW
03-01-2008, 04:15 AM
even if he had all his horcruxes, Orochimaru could just kill him each time haha
aarthans
03-02-2008, 09:59 AM
yea. and as voldy creates more horcruxes, it just makes him more vulnerable. ^^
KyubiiRage
03-03-2008, 03:49 AM
Voldy can do magic without his wand to.How can Oro dodge the Cruciatus Curse.While he is lying there in pain Vol would just do Avada and Oro is dead
duckofdoom99
03-03-2008, 06:40 AM
Yeah i think voldemort wins this Magic > Oro
KingTW
03-03-2008, 06:50 AM
replacement technique/ clone technique, easy ways to fool voldemort into thinking that he's got the real 1.
aarthans
03-03-2008, 10:35 AM
Voldy can do magic without his wand to.How can Oro dodge the Cruciatus Curse.While he is lying there in pain Vol would just do Avada and Oro is dead
any type of curse can be dodged. ^^ with oro's exceptional talent as a ninja, he could just easily dodge or even deflect the curses. remember that some curses can be blocked by simple things like boulders (just like in the 4th book when Voldy killed Cedric and Harry escaped by jumping into large stones and tombs.)
sHaDuP PaYmE
03-03-2008, 09:28 PM
voldemort wins cuz he can curse
aarthans
03-04-2008, 11:37 AM
but the point is, if the aim is wrong and if Oro could dodge it (w/c i'm sure he can perfectly do), voldy's magic would be just a laughing stock for Oro. ^^ besides, Voldy doesn't know hand-to-hand combat techniques. ^^
KingTW
03-04-2008, 11:50 AM
Agree with every word. It isn't hard for someone in Naruto to dodge a spell when normal people can do it.
aarthans
03-04-2008, 12:13 PM
Agree with every word. It isn't hard for someone in Naruto to dodge a spell when normal people can do it.
thanks. Oro would be way too much for Voldy. Any other ninja like naruto, kakashi etc. can also defeat Voldy. ^^
duckofdoom99
03-04-2008, 09:33 PM
I disagree. Magic > ninjas. They can dodge then he casts again until they out of chakra then they can't dodge anymore. Also dodging is very unlikely because they have no idea when it is coming. They don't have to say what they are doing so you wont be expecting it to hit you. Anyways magi wins because he can keep using it til his heart's content and never be tired where as a ninja will run low on chakra.
UCan'tCMe
03-04-2008, 10:00 PM
I think Orochimaru would win
KingTW
03-04-2008, 10:09 PM
I disagree. Magic > ninjas. They can dodge then he casts again until they out of chakra then they can't dodge anymore. Also dodging is very unlikely because they have no idea when it is coming. They don't have to say what they are doing so you wont be expecting it to hit you. Anyways magi wins because he can keep using it til his heart's content and never be tired where as a ninja will run low on chakra.
Yes, and do you really think they will just keep dodging, instead of dodging and then attacking.
I also disagree with dodging being unlikely. When reading the books and watching Harry dodge spells like he's possessed, I highly doubt that characters from Naruto would have n e trouble what so ever.
It also takes time for a ninja to run out of chakra, and it isn't depleted fast when dodging. Let's take Naruto for example here. He can make 1000 clones. Ya have fun finding the real 1 Voldemort, becuz chances r by the time he get's to u he'll still have a ton left to kick the crap out of you. Ninja's Can use replacement and cloning techniques to dodge as well. So Orochimaru could use a replacement technique, let it get hit, Voldemort would be like "Yah I win, I'm so powerful!" Then The Orochimaru would disappear. The Orochimaru comes from wherever (behind, underground) and instantly kills Voldemort.
duckofdoom99
03-05-2008, 12:59 AM
Yes, and do you really think they will just keep dodging, instead of dodging and then attacking.
I also disagree with dodging being unlikely. When reading the books and watching Harry dodge spells like he's possessed, I highly doubt that characters from Naruto would have n e trouble what so ever.
It also takes time for a ninja to run out of chakra, and it isn't depleted fast when dodging. Let's take Naruto for example here. He can make 1000 clones. Ya have fun finding the real 1 Voldemort, becuz chances r by the time he get's to u he'll still have a ton left to kick the crap out of you. Ninja's Can use replacement and cloning techniques to dodge as well. So Orochimaru could use a replacement technique, let it get hit, Voldemort would be like "Yah I win, I'm so powerful!" Then The Orochimaru would disappear. The Orochimaru comes from wherever (behind, underground) and instantly kills Voldemort.Ok so they may be able to dodge. Yes in the books they dodge like crazy, but more to keep the story going in my opinion. If it were that easy to dodge then why are they ever hit by one?
Yes Naruto's clones could stop him, but is Orochimaru vs Voldemort and as we saw with sasuke ,the replacement technique that orochimaru uses takes a lot more chakra than the other one. It completely drained Sasuke so you may be able to use that one twice ,but no many more times. Also even if Oro did happen to beat this voldemort by some miracle he still has 6 more lives and he is no idiot e would learn Oro's strategy and moves.
aarthans
03-05-2008, 09:40 AM
Ok so they may be able to dodge. Yes in the books they dodge like crazy, but more to keep the story going in my opinion. If it were that easy to dodge then why are they ever hit by one?
Yes Naruto's clones could stop him, but is Orochimaru vs Voldemort and as we saw with sasuke ,the replacement technique that orochimaru uses takes a lot more chakra than the other one. It completely drained Sasuke so you may be able to use that one twice ,but no many more times. Also even if Oro did happen to beat this voldemort by some miracle he still has 6 more lives and he is no idiot e would learn Oro's strategy and moves.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO USE REPLACEMENT TECHNIQUES AND ALL THAT NINJUTSU! YOU COULD WIN WITH VERY GOOD TAIJUTSU AND A SHARP EYE. NINJAS DON'T USE CHAKRA WHILE DODGING. IT'S JUST THEIR PHYSICAL STRENGTH!!! CHAKRA'S ONLY USED WHEN PERFORMING NINJUTSUS.
IF I WERE OROCHIMARU, I'D HAVE AN EASY TIME WITH VOLDEMORT. I COULD ACTUALLY PLAY WITH HIM FOR A BIT. VOLDEMORT'S MAGIC IS USELESS AGAINST OROCHIMARU. AND PRAISE VOLDEMORT FOR HIS HORCRUXES BUT IT 'S PRETTY FUTILE COMPARED TO THE SWITCHING OF BODIES OF OROCHIMARU. LIKE WHAT I'VE SAID BEFORE, AS VOLDY ADDS HORCRUXES HIS ORIGINAL SELF BECOMES WEAKER. VOLDEMORT DOESN'T HAVE THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF CHANCE TO WIN AGAINST ORO!!!!!!!!!!
KingTW
03-05-2008, 11:35 AM
Ok so they may be able to dodge. Yes in the books they dodge like crazy, but more to keep the story going in my opinion. If it were that easy to dodge then why are they ever hit by one?
Yes Naruto's clones could stop him, but is Orochimaru vs Voldemort and as we saw with sasuke ,the replacement technique that orochimaru uses takes a lot more chakra than the other one. It completely drained Sasuke so you may be able to use that one twice ,but no many more times. Also even if Oro did happen to beat this voldemort by some miracle he still has 6 more lives and he is no idiot e would learn Oro's strategy and moves.
Who says he knows just "that" replacement technique, if he knows that replacement technique, he most certainly knows the basic replacement techniques, which cost very little chakra. And also, while he cannot use clones to the extent of Naruto (nobody can). The Bunshin technique is EXTREMELY basic (we saw sakura use it in the chuunin exams). And it also costs very minimal chakra (Kakashi used it when he was drained of chakra after his fight with Zabuza, he also created a lot.) So Orochimaru could create a bunch of "those" clones, and what are the odds of Voldemort hitting one as Orochimaru comes at him with amazing speed? After that, Voldemort comes back with his horcrux, and the battle repeats itself, as both of those techniques he could use cost very little chakra.
aarthans
03-06-2008, 03:02 PM
Who says he knows just "that" replacement technique, if he knows that replacement technique, he most certainly knows the basic replacement techniques, which cost very little chakra. And also, while he cannot use clones to the extent of Naruto (nobody can). The Bunshin technique is EXTREMELY basic (we saw sakura use it in the chuunin exams). And it also costs very minimal chakra (Kakashi used it when he was drained of chakra after his fight with Zabuza, he also created a lot.) So Orochimaru could create a bunch of "those" clones, and what are the odds of Voldemort hitting one as Orochimaru comes at him with amazing speed? After that, Voldemort comes back with his horcrux, and the battle repeats itself, as both of those techniques he could use cost very little chakra.
very nice there. ^^ i agree with all of your points.
Teh4th:)
03-09-2008, 09:13 AM
Voldemort will. If he hits Orochimaru with a spell. But, If he didn't Oro has a high chance of winning. Really depending on the situation.
aarthans
03-09-2008, 11:16 AM
Voldemort will. If he hits Orochimaru with a spell. But, If he didn't Oro has a high chance of winning. Really depending on the situation.
i agree. but Voldy would not be able to hit Oro. So the clear winner's Oro!!! XP
Teh4th:)
03-10-2008, 12:33 PM
Thanks aarthans
aarthans
03-11-2008, 11:19 AM
no prob. all hands for Voldy's immolation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheer for the mighty Oro! ^^
Teh4th:)
03-11-2008, 12:35 PM
no prob. all hands for Voldy's immolation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheer for the mighty Oro! ^^
Lol. -kneels down-
Orochimaru. Orochimaru.
~Nel Tu~
03-12-2008, 08:02 AM
Orochimaru would win
Teh4th:)
03-12-2008, 12:30 PM
Orochimaru would win
I want to know your opinion.
Why?
Cross Marian
03-12-2008, 12:38 PM
I don't remember Voldemort abilities that much. But if he lost to Harry, he would lose to Orochimaru as well. ;)
Uchiha-Madara
03-12-2008, 01:34 PM
LOL, Oro would win so hard
He has the speed and power to kill him, not to mention the skills of a ninja of his caliber; he would win with his speed alone
But if voldemort would use that killing spell of his then Oro would have a hard time with the fight, although im still going for Oro in this fight just cus I realy think he would win
aarthans
03-12-2008, 01:40 PM
LOL, Oro would win so hard
He has the speed and power to kill him, not to mention the skills of a ninja of his caliber; he would win with his speed alone
But if voldemort would use that killing spell of his then Oro would have a hard time with the fight, although im still going for Oro in this fight just cus I realy think he would win
yeah! very well said! i agree. the killing curse would be a critical part of the battle, one hit might end Oro. but still, it's easy for Oro to doge it! So Oro wins!!
duckofdoom99
03-13-2008, 08:31 PM
I don't remember Voldemort abilities that much. But if he lost to Harry, he would lose to Orochimaru as well.Ok he lost to Harry for plot reasons not because he is weak, but because it makes the story better/more meaningful.
LOL, Oro would win so hard
He has the speed and power to kill him, not to mention the skills of a ninja of his caliber; he would win with his speed alone
But if voldemort would use that killing spell of his then Oro would have a hard time with the fight, although im still going for Oro in this fight just cus I realy think he would winVoldemort has 7 lives i dont think you can kill that easily. Also magic isnt exactly slow. Also there are so many spells including defensive ones that he could use. He could just make oros attacks fly back at him.
yeah! very well said! i agree. the killing curse would be a critical part of the battle, one hit might end Oro. but still, it's easy for Oro to doge it! So Oro wins!!Oro can only dodge so long before he runs out of chakra where as magic all you need to do is flick your wrist and it takes no toll on the body. So voldemort can last longer while oro has to waste chakra dodging until he is depleted then oro dies.
aarthans
03-14-2008, 11:45 AM
Ok he lost to Harry for plot reasons not because he is weak, but because it makes the story better/more meaningful.
Voldemort has 7 lives i dont think you can kill that easily. Also magic isnt exactly slow. Also there are so many spells including defensive ones that he could use. He could just make oros attacks fly back at him.
Oro can only dodge so long before he runs out of chakra where as magic all you need to do is flick your wrist and it takes no toll on the body. So voldemort can last longer while oro has to waste chakra dodging until he is depleted then oro dies.
wtf!! yes! Voldy has seven lives but its all due to his horcruxes, when Oro destroys all of them, one kunai stab would be enough to kill Voldy. Oro could transfer bodies! It's a better technique than risk splitting your soul!
Voldy's not weak but he seems like dirt when compared to Oro.
dodging spells DOES NOT, repeat, DOES NOT use any chakra at all, if it makes use of chakra it would still be a very small amount cause it's the physical energy that's used. And by the time the chakra gets used up, Oro would've had killed Voldy with just a head kick for Voldy.
MissySmithy
03-29-2008, 02:47 AM
Yay, snake dude fight!
Orochimaru all the way. With all the jutsu that he has Voldy has not chance against him. Even though Voldemort is pretty powerful too, Orochimaru is just out of his league.
aarthans
03-29-2008, 05:37 AM
Yay, snake dude fight!
Orochimaru all the way. With all the jutsu that he has Voldy has not chance against him. Even though Voldemort is pretty powerful too, Orochimaru is just out of his league.
finally, someone who has sense. thanks!! ^^
Oro dude all the way!
mik.khail
03-29-2008, 05:44 AM
finally, someone who has sense. thanks!! ^^
Oro dude all the way!
Saanins are the best!! Voldemort will be shredded to pieces:D :D :D
Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-29-2008, 05:45 AM
Voldy will get pwned by orochi
aarthans
03-29-2008, 10:12 AM
Saanins are the best!! Voldemort will be shredded to pieces:D :D :D
Voldy will get pwned by orochi
definitely people! you get the point!!! ^^
i'm happy *cries* ^^
shika shuffle
03-29-2008, 05:41 PM
orochichmaru because he can use his snake sword and giant snake
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