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iRob
02-28-2008, 08:02 AM
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/robo19_2007/warriors-orochi1.jpg

Dynasty Warriors (真・三國無双, Shin Sangokumusō?, lit. "True - Unrivaled Three Kingdoms") is a series of tactical action video games created by Koei. The award-winning series is a spin-off of Koei's turn-based strategy Romance of the Three Kingdoms series, based loosely around the Chinese epic of the same name. The first game titled Dynasty Warriors, Sangokumusō in Japan, is a fighting game and not a true part of the series. All English titles are a number ahead of their Japanese counterparts due to the English localization of naming Shin Sangokumusō, a spin-off of the previously mentioned Sangokumusō game, as Dynasty Warriors 2.

As of November 18, 1997, the Dynasty Warriors series has sold more than 9 million units worldwide.

The series is often criticized for its repetitive gameplay, yet sale count is always extremely high among most games in the series.[citation needed] At one time these games were the highest selling series in Japan.


Samurai Warriors
n the basic gameplay of Samurai Warriors, the player takes the role of a single officer in battle and must fend off hordes of enemy soldiers and defeat the enemy commander. The player has at their disposal a range of combo attacks and crowd-clearing special moves known as Musou attacks. The variety of attacks available increase as the character increases in level and gains new weapons.

Musou attacks can only be performed when the character's Musou gauge has filled up, which does so gradually when the player inflicts or receives damage. Additionally, if the player is low on health or possess a special skill, they can use their special True Musou attack which causes elemental damage in addition to normal damage as well as adds on a trio of attacks that cleans up the final few enemies in the vicinity. One difference between Samurai Warriors and Dynasty Warriors is the ability to perform free-style combo attacks during Musou attack mode, during which the game enters bullet-time; common soldiers move very slowly, however officers are unaffected. Other abilities that Samurai characters have over the Dynasty series include the ability to perform a roll to dodge attacks, and deflect incoming arrows with their weapon.

Owner\Commanders Haku013///OrochimaruKakashi///Shikamaru_ShadowNara

Co-Owner-Generals


Members-Troops
Rultzbud
A-Bomb
hmvv
Madara_The-Uchiha
riarojr
Teh4th
ShapeShifter

This is an Fc for anyone a fan of the Dynasty Warriors series & the Samurai Warriors Series

Also For Warriors Orochi Fans:D

To join pls Pm a commander and they will ask you a question and get it right you are in

Rultzbud
02-28-2008, 05:40 PM
I want to join this! Samurai Warriors 2 is my favorite game.

iRob
02-29-2008, 05:31 AM
Welcome To The Fc

Whos Your Fav Character

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
02-29-2008, 05:32 AM
WHY DIDNT ANY1 MAKE THIS B4!!!

ill join plz and my fav char is on my sig

and go to my site and you will se alot of dw and sw pictures and info

im an dw addict

iRob
02-29-2008, 05:37 AM
Wow alright your in

I dont have to ask you whos your fav character lol

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
02-29-2008, 05:38 AM
THANK YOUZ

must play dw!!

iRob
02-29-2008, 05:42 AM
I have been a long time fan every since number 2 ive got every dw game and sw

OrochimaruKakashi
02-29-2008, 06:03 PM
I love all the games!!!! i wanna join!!! co-ownershipness?

iRob
02-29-2008, 09:39 PM
Okay but if you lok your already a owner lol

btw name your fav character

OrochimaruKakashi
02-29-2008, 10:08 PM
LOL....duh!!! :D HAHA!!!!

mines Mitsuhide Akechi

iRob
02-29-2008, 10:54 PM
How about from Dw

Mine is Sw Nobunaga Oda
Dw Zhou Yu

OrochimaruKakashi
03-01-2008, 02:52 AM
mind from DW is Nobunaga Oda

and from SW mine's still Mitsuhide Akechi.... he's in two of my fav games....Samurai Worriors and Warriors Orochi :D

iRob
03-01-2008, 02:54 AM
yeah from DW would have to be Nobunaga Oda too

and from SW mine's still Mitsuhide Akechi.... he's in two of my fav games....Samurai Worriors and Warriors Orochi :D

lol Nobunaga is for SW

DW is china 3 kingdom era

OrochimaruKakashi
03-01-2008, 03:20 AM
whoops....i know... i was tyrping so fast....LOL and the D and S are right next to each other LOL....

iRob
03-01-2008, 03:21 AM
I never really looked at the keyboard properly and i didnt know that lol

OrochimaruKakashi
03-01-2008, 03:23 AM
oh wait.....I did mean to type DW....he's available for play in Dynasty Warriors 1 remember?

and personally i like Warriors Orochi the best because it's a crossover of both Samurai Warriors and Dynasty Worriors....

iRob
03-01-2008, 03:29 AM
Um i not sure i never played the first one ahhhhhh

Warriors Orochi is the best have you completly finished it

OrochimaruKakashi
03-01-2008, 03:36 AM
oh well he's in the first one....


and yeah i have completed it like 5 times!!! working on the 6th time right now!!! and Mitsuhide is at lvl 99 and Nobunaga is at 90

A-Bomb
03-01-2008, 03:36 AM
WOW... i actually JUST bought SW2... then i come on here n see this, sign me up

OrochimaruKakashi
03-01-2008, 03:38 AM
welcome to the FC!!!


and have you ever played Warriors Orochi?? i think it's the best by far because it's a crossover of Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors....

iRob
03-01-2008, 03:38 AM
oh well he's in the first one....


and yeah i have completed it like 5 times!!! working on the 6th time right now!!! and Mitsuhide is at lvl 99 and Nobunaga is at 90

lol have you got everyone
my team Nobunaga lv 99
zhou yu 99
Nagamasa 98
Ina 89

I swap between the last 2

WOW... i actually JUST bought SW2... then i come on here n see this, sign me up

Alright welcome aboard

OrochimaruKakashi
03-01-2008, 03:43 AM
yeah...i keep at least one entire complete game at all times with almost all of the characters at 90 or higher.....

iRob
03-01-2008, 03:46 AM
Thats the safest way lubu on chaos is nearly suicide but i mange to defeat him once on chaos

have you tried chaos

A-Bomb
03-01-2008, 03:47 AM
no i havent played it yet

iRob
03-01-2008, 03:51 AM
No that was to OroK

But i recommend getting Mitsuhide Or Nobunaga
their really good in SW2
well that mine and OroK Fav People

OrochimaruKakashi
03-01-2008, 03:54 AM
yeah Mitsuhide and Nobunaga are awesome!!!

and yes i have tried Chaos...somehow i managed to keep almost a full bar of health....IDK how i did it....but i did....

iRob
03-01-2008, 03:55 AM
But your character kills mine but if i had to choose again after nobunagas death i would pick the monkey man Hideyoshi Toyotomi

OrochimaruKakashi
03-01-2008, 03:59 AM
Touche.....

iRob
03-01-2008, 04:12 AM
Have you got all and finished all Dynasty Warriors games

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-01-2008, 06:46 PM
Dw Is So Awesome

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-01-2008, 08:03 PM
teehee nigahiga

iRob
03-01-2008, 10:23 PM
Okay hows this for a new topic

Most Disliked Character In Dw/Sw/Wo(Warriors Orochi)

OrochimaruKakashi
03-01-2008, 10:31 PM
hhmmmm.......I really don't know......i haven't thought about that.....i'll get back to you on that one....

iRob
03-01-2008, 10:42 PM
When i first played orochi i didnt like him he was to hard

im not sure about the other 2

OrochimaruKakashi
03-01-2008, 11:05 PM
Orochi is cool he almost looks like a blue skinned version of Oro ^_^.... i beat him so easily the first time....all you have to do is just get your character to 99 before you fight him and it'll be a peice of cake!!!

iRob
03-01-2008, 11:10 PM
Orochi is cool he almost looks like a blue skinned version of Oro ^_^.... i beat him so easily the first time....all you have to do is just get your character to 99 before you fight him and it'll be a peice of cake!!!

Yea 99 i only started and i had about lv 50 or something around there but i beat him i probly dislike masemune date (sw) (wo)

OrochimaruKakashi
03-01-2008, 11:34 PM
i had just started too...but i figured out how to level them up from their status screen....

iRob
03-01-2008, 11:37 PM
The whole i tap square very fast thing i remember i only figured that out when i finished the game twice but it was a easy lv 99 character

OrochimaruKakashi
03-01-2008, 11:50 PM
yeah.....

oh which army is your fav to fight for?

iRob
03-02-2008, 12:00 AM
You Mean like Resistance Or orochi????

OrochimaruKakashi
03-02-2008, 12:07 AM
yeah.....

iRob
03-02-2008, 12:11 AM
Oh okay then i like fighting with the resistance

Ma chao my fav character atm (dw)
Nobunaga Oda (Sw)

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-02-2008, 02:48 AM
what are you guys talking about i got lost after yeah....

ahh i just died from cao cao!!
and is it still on hating ppl on dw/sw?
if it is then
dw-sima yi....blocker!!!!
sw-no one because i dont usually play alot

OrochimaruKakashi
03-02-2008, 03:42 AM
haha...i have a new fav 3 man team....

Mitsuhide Akechi
Nobunaga Oda
and Zhou Yu

and i didn't like the part where i had to beat up Mitsuhide in the Wu story :(

and i was playing SW 1 today and i was laughing cause i haven't played it in a while and i forgot that one of my companions in the Mitsuhide story was named Sasuke....

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-02-2008, 03:47 AM
sima yi is a blocker!!! that loser

i have a 5 man team

zhao yun
gan ning
zhang he
lu bu
sanada yukimura

5 women team?

nu wa
da qiao
xiao qiao
xing cai
kunoichi

iRob
03-03-2008, 09:44 AM
Oh OroK you stole half my team lol

Nobunaga Oda
Zhou Yu
Ina

Umm Dw
Zhou Yu
Sima Yi
Ma Chao
lu Xun

Sw
Nobunaga Oda
Hideyoshi Toyotomi

hmvv
03-03-2008, 02:37 PM
i wanna join!! i love Dynasty Warriors!!! my fave character is Ma Chao ive managed to get his best wepon on DW 5.

OrochimaruKakashi
03-03-2008, 08:05 PM
welcome to the FC!!!! one Haku013 comes on he'll add you to the list....

Madara_The-Uchiha
03-04-2008, 02:54 AM
can i join i like dw/sw

iRob
03-04-2008, 07:31 AM
i wanna join!! i love Dynasty Warriors!!! my fave character is Ma Chao ive managed to get his best wepon on DW 5.

nice we have the same fav person on DW

welcome to the FC!!!! one Haku013 comes on he'll add you to the list....

To everyone just call me rob
Thanks Commander OroK Appreciate it
can i join i like dw/sw
Welcome To the warriors Fc

To All New Member That Have played the games tell us of your fav team in either dw sw or both or Orochi

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-05-2008, 01:35 AM
can i say one thing DYNASTY WARRIORS IS AWESOME

have you guys seen this picture http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee147/xzdarkacezx/koei/wall_all_m.jpg

Madara_The-Uchiha
03-05-2008, 02:16 AM
whoa awesome picture or wallpaper

OrochimaruKakashi
03-06-2008, 02:52 AM
that's awesome!! :D

but my personal fav is Warriors Orochi cause it's a crossover of both SW and DW combined into one awesome game!!! :D

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-06-2008, 03:21 AM
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd242/kumaruddin/a-mo1.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h25/babboon316/Dynasty%20Warriors%20and%20Samurai%20Warriors/dragon.jpg

Rultzbud
03-06-2008, 03:42 AM
DW- Lu Bu
SW Musashi Miyamoto (I actually bought the book he wrote)

iRob
03-06-2008, 09:50 AM
DW- Lu Bu
SW Musashi Miyamoto (I actually bought the book he wrote)

i reckon people pick LuBu cause he is baiscally the most powerful peep in the series

Is that book good i have sun tzu art of war great book


NEW TOPIC FOR THE FC

Did anyone like Dong Zhou (The fat man):p

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-06-2008, 11:52 PM
lu bu is like strong with his sky scorcher and he is kinda even with zhao yun

no i don't he looks scary in one of this pic i found i creeps me out

iRob
03-07-2008, 06:30 AM
Kinda even? im not sure about that zhao yun is strong but it took the 3 brothers to stop his advance i dont think zhao yun can match him

Rultzbud
03-07-2008, 06:43 AM
Zhao Yun is not on par with Lu Bu.. Lu Bu was the strongest of his time..

iRob
03-07-2008, 10:37 AM
Zhao Yun is not on par with Lu Bu.. Lu Bu was the strongest of his time..

Yes thank you his only let down was what he did with his troops but if your good with zhao yun is good in the game then sure you can match him

Im gonna chnage the layout of the members list soon

I need Everyone to tell me their fav character from both games

Madara_The-Uchiha
03-07-2008, 06:05 PM
in his time ....wow

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-07-2008, 06:11 PM
ive read some stories or what ever they are and it seems lu bu and zhao yun are kinda even except lu bu is very skilled and his sky scorcher and his new weapons are stronger - zhao yun takes orders and will take on anyone if order from liu bei like taking on an army of a thousand like in the DW5 INTRO and in the DW6 they go head to head in trailer

and can the topic be changed to battles like
lu bu vs zhao yun
wu vs shu vs wei
others vs shu
sw vs dw

can it be like those

iRob
03-07-2008, 10:01 PM
and can the topic be changed to battles like
lu bu vs zhao yun
wu vs shu vs wei
others vs shu
sw vs dw

can it be like those

okay then the topic is changed into that

hmvv
03-08-2008, 01:53 PM
lu bu died b4 zhao yuns prime

i read a story that zhao yun took on a whole army on his own and won, like the intro 2 DW5 altho i dowt he fought like that lol.

iRob
03-08-2008, 10:43 PM
lu bu died b4 zhao yuns prime

i read a story that zhao yun took on a whole army on his own and won, like the intro 2 DW5 altho i dowt he fought like that lol.

Thats also true but dont overlook that LuBu & Zhao Yun met up during the hu lao gate battle and He was saved after being beaten by lubu by the 3 brothers

So i want someone to post back before i have a definate answer

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-09-2008, 11:47 PM
da qiao vs xiao qiao

i think DA QIAO

lu bu vs zhao yun - dw6 trailer
zhao yun took on army to fight CAO PI or someone - dw5 trailer

iRob
03-10-2008, 11:33 AM
da qiao vs xiao qiao

i think DA QIAO

lu bu vs zhao yun - dw6 trailer
zhao yun took on army to fight CAO PI or someone - dw5 trailer

Well u still have to say they are only traliers they promote the game but in actually combat im not sure as more the qiao fight im not sure either da qiao isnt even in DW6

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-11-2008, 12:36 AM
da qiao is not in DW6 - she is a minor character

but if it was a movie? for lu bu vs zhao yun we don't know unless they make a Dynasty Warriors: The Movie or The Clash of The Warriors (dw vs sw)

iRob
03-11-2008, 09:42 AM
Hmmm.......That would be very interesting dw V sw

Im not sure who would win if teams were seat up say the Oda Clan V Kingdom Of Wu probly wu im not sure

Its a very good topic :D

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-12-2008, 01:08 AM
...would be awesome if it was like really real like ...TRANSFORMERS

Shu vs Wu

riarojr
03-12-2008, 02:52 AM
is this club still open? can i join on the samurai warriors side?

iRob
03-12-2008, 05:54 AM
is this club still open? can i join on the samurai warriors side?

Its always open.........:D

Welcome to the fc

Who is your favourite

riarojr
03-12-2008, 10:32 AM
Kotaro Fuma........can't deny his pimposity :D

Teh4th:)
03-12-2008, 11:33 AM
Woot! Samurai Warriors FC.
I want to join.
:) Mitsuhide rocks.

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-13-2008, 02:17 AM
last time i checked this place it was like 19 posts now like 80 posts

and we should have one side dw and one side sw!!!

dynasty/samurai warriors rpg!!

Ido
03-13-2008, 03:35 AM
Lol, i love both of those game series, especialy Dynasty Warriors, and i got Samurai Warriors 2 for 360, and i can't wait to get Dynasty Warriors 6.

Please lemme join!!!

riarojr
03-13-2008, 04:57 PM
i got SW2:Xtreme Legends reserved for me PS2 :D

OrochimaruKakashi
03-13-2008, 08:20 PM
i love Mitsuhide!!!! :D he's hot!!! LOL

and OMG in Warriors Orochi.... doesn't Magoichi remind yopu of Jiraiya!?! LOL

"I can't let you have all the credit for saving the pretty lady" LOL he is totally like Pervy Sage!!!!

Ido
03-13-2008, 10:53 PM
Lol, not to ruined anything for anybody, but if don't want to know what happens to Magoichi in SW2, then don't read this.

Magoichi dies.

I will give you also another hint, alot of people die in SW2, so sad. T_T

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-14-2008, 04:11 AM
when you say its sad and do not read it
they read it some how

and if it was
sw vs dw vs orochi

iRob
03-14-2008, 10:30 AM
Woot! Samurai Warriors FC.
I want to join.
:) Mitsuhide rocks.
Your in Buddy:D

last time i checked this place it was like 19 posts now like 80 posts

and we should have one side dw and one side sw!!!

dynasty/samurai warriors rpg!!
Yep exactly what i was thinking
so everyone will have to post again lol saying what side they wanna be in

Lol, i love both of those game series, especialy Dynasty Warriors, and i got Samurai Warriors 2 for 360, and i can't wait to get Dynasty Warriors 6.

Please lemme join!!!
Your in Chris lol

i got SW2:Xtreme Legends reserved for me PS2 :D
Really tell us when you get it

i love Mitsuhide!!!! :D he's hot!!! LOL

and OMG in Warriors Orochi.... doesn't Magoichi remind yopu of Jiraiya!?! LOL

"I can't let you have all the credit for saving the pretty lady" LOL he is totally like Pervy Sage!!!!

We all knew that lol or maybe just me

Kinda of but he is more grommed than magoichi
Lol, not to ruined anything for anybody, but if don't want to know what happens to Magoichi in SW2, then don't read this.

Magoichi dies.

I will give you also another hint, alot of people die in SW2, so sad. T_T
I know very sad but all the different stories get confusing

when you say its sad and do not read it
they read it some how

and if it was
sw vs dw vs orochi
Ohhhh that would be hard cause you got ll the greatest tactitions eg stratagists

Ido
03-15-2008, 01:11 AM
Woohooo, thanks dude.

iRob
03-15-2008, 01:12 AM
Woohooo, thanks dude.

No Prob Chris:D :D

whos you favourite???

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-17-2008, 02:58 AM
Topic-Who is ur fav. dw/sw character

Rultzbud
03-17-2008, 12:50 PM
Musashi Miyamoto, Keiji Maeda, and from DW I forgot... Guan Ping.

iRob
03-17-2008, 11:35 PM
Topic-Who is ur fav. dw/sw character

Okay great topic i was wondering when someone would put this up

Sw------Hideyoshi Toyotomi, Nobunaga Oda
Dw------Ma Chao, Zhou Yu

Musashi Miyamoto, Keiji Maeda, and from DW I forgot... Guan Ping.

No prob is that your team on Orochi

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-18-2008, 02:02 AM
dw- zhao yun and ma chao
sw- sanada and azai

i think i might create a dw/sw rpg

iRob
03-18-2008, 02:05 AM
YAY another Ma chao Fan


is this rp gonna be on the characters or make up your own


Btw ill promote you to commander

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-18-2008, 03:14 AM
im not sure yet

and ok

Rultzbud
03-18-2008, 04:10 AM
No prob is that your team on Orochi

Nope.. I haven't bought Orochi yet. On a scale of 1 - 10 what is it??

iRob
03-19-2008, 02:24 AM
Nope.. I haven't bought Orochi yet. On a scale of 1 - 10 what is it??

what is orochi???

Is that what you mean

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-22-2008, 02:21 AM
what is orochi? he is a serpent king http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc316/monkeynut5/Orochi.jpg

iRob
03-25-2008, 12:03 PM
^^There we go and i know OroK likes him

Uzumaki Naruto 13
03-25-2008, 04:49 PM
can i join

iRob
03-27-2008, 12:09 PM
can i join

First a invitational test

which game series do you rather me ask the question from

you have to had played any of the games to join

Bleach
03-27-2008, 03:17 PM
cud i join !!!!!!!!!!!!

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
03-27-2008, 09:12 PM
umm whatever Haku013 just said

iRob
03-28-2008, 11:03 AM
cud i join !!!!!!!!!!!!

Pm one of the commanders as in the first page they will ask you a question and hopefully you should get it right

umm whatever Haku013 just said

Call me rob:)

Rultzbud
03-29-2008, 06:29 AM
Has anyone picked up SW2XL?? Hopefully I'm going to get it today, I'll post what I think of it on here.

Teh4th:)
03-29-2008, 01:41 PM
SW2XL?
Samurai Warriors 2 XL?

Rultzbud
03-29-2008, 02:21 PM
Yeah, has anyone played it??
If I have enough money I'm going to get that and Orochi.
__________________________________________________ __________
EDIT:

I went out, and only had enough for SW2:XL (Samurai Warriors 2: Xtreme Legends) and if you have SW2, and want something to spice up the same old stuff. GET THIS!!

The 6 new characters are REALLY good, I've only used Kojiro, and Toshiie, and they kick ARSE. The only draw back is Shibata and Kojiro aren't bodygaurds HOWEVER, they have replaced them with bodygaurds who are just as aggressive, and have the same weapons.

Also they have added a 5th weapon for all the characters!

They also have a new mode: Mercenary Mode
You choose an officer, and you get to choose what battles you want to go in out of a selected few (Sadly, you can't choose what side, so if it's like Takeda VS Oda, you are on the Takeda) and you get a reward based on how well you do, and you can buy generals to accompany you into battle. To me this is really fun, imagine, Musashi, Tadakatsu, and Keiji on the same team.

They have changed the MAX LVL from 50 to 70.

they did something I thought was really really cool, instead of searching FAQs on the 4/5th weapons, you can go to the vault, and look under the last one, and it will tell you a brief example of what you should do to get the weapon.

To me, if you love SW, and have SW2, please buy it!

Ido
04-06-2008, 04:18 AM
Well, i am getting Dynasty Warriors 6 on my B-day, but on that game they screwed up alot of characters specialy Tashi-Ci. They took off those cool weapons of his T_T

But i am still getting it lol.

Anyone see the fight between Musashi Miyamoto vs. Kojiro Sasaki?

iRob
04-06-2008, 04:30 AM
Well, i am getting Dynasty Warriors 6 on my B-day, but on that game they screwed up alot of characters specialy Tashi-Ci. They took off those cool weapons of his T_T

But i am still getting it lol.

Anyone see the fight between Musashi Miyamoto vs. Kojiro Sasaki?

In a game?

Rultzbud
04-06-2008, 06:52 PM
If he means In Game, then of course.. Kojiro is so awesome in SW2XL..

iRob
04-07-2008, 01:14 AM
I dont know i havent played SW2Xl, But i hear good things is yoshimoto any good? or is he the same as in the last XL

Ido
04-07-2008, 02:04 AM
Kojiro has the best moves in SM2XL, Chosokabe is like Zhen Ji, what's Chosokabe's weapon again, is it a banjo?

iRob
04-07-2008, 02:05 AM
Kojiro has the best moves in SM2XL, Chosokabe is like Zhen Ji, what's Chosokabe's weapon again, is it a banjo?

Yepi believe so some kind of guitar or banjo
Now thats pretty unique

Ido
04-07-2008, 02:14 AM
I was playing as Chosokabe in SW2XL first time i notice that when i use the water it uses my mousu.

Did you guys see Gan Ning in Dynasty Warriors 6?

iRob
04-07-2008, 02:32 AM
Yes he has changed alot

With twin daggers!!! Do you likes his changes?

Rultzbud
04-07-2008, 03:57 AM
I really dislike DW6.. They kinda killed the whole game.. why not just improve the graphics, keep the weapons, leave the levels how they are in DW6, and all that, but just change the characters looks slightly.. Nope completely change them..
some of the weapons are OK, Zhang Fei's is pure awesome, but Guan Ping OMG no big sword..

I still haven't played it yet, if I play it I'll let you guys know my opinion.

Ido
04-08-2008, 01:10 AM
Well, they probaly wanted to change it, but it just made it worst tho....

People who are still good: Zhou Yun, Pang Tong, Cao Pi, Sun Jian, Zhou Tai, Lu Bu, Gan Ning, Lu Xun, Lu Mang.

People who got ruined: Tashi-Chi, Sun Ce, Sun Shang Xang, Liu Bei, Guan Ping, Dong Zouo.

iRob
04-08-2008, 08:20 AM
Well, they probaly wanted to change it, but it just made it worst tho....

People who are still good: Zhou Yun, Pang Tong, Cao Pi, Sun Jian, Zhou Tai, Lu Bu, Gan Ning, Lu Xun, Lu Mang.

People who got ruined: Tashi-Chi, Sun Ce, Sun Shang Xang, Liu Bei, Guan Ping, Dong Zouo.

Im wanna put my input here aswell on who got wrecked

Still Good:Sun Jian, Sun Quan, Cao Cao, Sima Yi, Zhang Fei, Lu Xun, Cao Pi, Zhou Yun

Pretty Bad: Lu Bu(Weapon nothing else) Liu Bei ( I dont like his costume) Zhang Liao (Weapons) And then i agree with SS answers

People I dont really care about : Dong Zhou (He is massive in this game) Yuan Shao

Ido
04-08-2008, 07:29 PM
Lol, i can't even see his eyes in the game.

To bad some people got deleated T_T

Poeple who got deleated: Jiang Wei, Da Qiao, Pang De(Don't Care), Zou Ci(Don't Care), Meng Huo, Zhu Rong, Xing Cai.

I also got to put Sun Quan on the "Still good" list.

I also wonder what happens if Zhou Yu dies in Dynasty Warriors, i wonder who will be the main character.

iRob
04-09-2008, 12:11 AM
Stop what your doing and read this

People Orochi is back !!!!!!!!!!!!!1


Warriors Orochi. Subtitled 'Rebirth of the Demon Lord'
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Warriors Orochi. Subtitled 'Rebirth of the Demon Lord'

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/robo19_2007/FuXi.jpg

That's right, Fu Xi, Nu Wa, and the SW2XL characters are finally added in this game!

Other than that, there will be also new stages: maps from SW2XL, as well as maps made exclusively for MO:RDL such as Itsukushima. There will be also new modes such as Dramatic Mode, Survival Mode and Versus Mode. New gameplay systems are also added, and many more!

Scan 1

Scan 2

New News

The JP site of Musou Orochi: Rebirth of the Demon Lord has been launched today! Nothing much up there yet but you can see the characters, stages as well as the prologue with the images in better quality!

Musou Orochi: Maou Sairin Site

This game isn't an expansion pack but it's a sequel.

New New's: Wednesday, Feb 13, 08
2 New Characters have just been announced!! :D

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/robo19_2007/newchar2.jpg

The left one is Taigong Wang, a Chinese semi-myth figure who was also known as Jiang Ziya. His weapon is a fishing rod. Oh and he is Tai in the PS2 and GameCube game Mystic Heroes! :D

And the one in the right is Taira no Kiyomori, a general in the Heian Period. His weapon is a big rosary.

::UPDATE::

Musou Orochi: Maou Sairin Game Play

::UPDATE:: Wednesday, Feb 27, 08

New Character Minamoto no Yonutssune

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/robo19_2007/saintminamotozt8.jpg

Minamoto no Yonutssune is another General in the Heian period. The Minamoto and Taira clans fought in a battle known as the Genpei wars, with the Minamoto emerging as the winner.

::UPDATE:: ::Mar 12, 08::

New Character
Sun Wukong The Monkey King.
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/robo19_2007/2dmgt8g.jpg

Here is a List of all the New Stuff in the Game.

01. Doubles the duration of item buffs
02. Doubles attack damage during low/critical HP
03. Allows easier air recovery
04. Increases drop rates from enemies
05. Increases arrow damage
06. Able to use True Musou Attacks regardless of HP
07. Able to use Combination Attacks regardless of HP
08. Reduces damage taken
09. Negates damage taken during charge attacks
10. Able to Jump-cancel charge attacks
11. Cannot be interrupted by arrows
12. Able to use Assist Attacks at half Musou Gauge
13. Musou Gauge will recover naturally
14. Revives the character once after death
15. When Musou Gauge is full, all attacks carry elements (the description doesn't say normal or charge attacks)

New Character Announced ::Tuesday, Mar 18, 08::

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/robo19_2007/mordlsilfg6.jpg

Who is this Mysterious Character?

::UPDATE:: Mar 26, 08

The New character has been announced....

And the Last Announced Character is... *drumroll*

Queen Himiko!!

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/robo19_2007/himikoxw0.jpg

You will probally reconize this character she also made an appearance in Kessen II.

along with two more original stages: Yamatai and a fire river.

Finally what weve been waiting for there will be finally be real costume changes, not just color swaps. For example, Zhuge Liang will be able to wear his DW4 costume, and Gracia will have an all-new goth look-a-like costume!!

Here is the Trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qwn4imlye4
Here is the site http://download1.gamecity.ne.jp/orochi-sairin/index.htm

Ido
04-09-2008, 12:49 AM
Lol, i knew about that long time ago, i watched a gameplay of it. The player was using Monkey Man, i wanna use him T_T

He can turn into a big monkey for his Mousu Special.

Ewww....Orochi.....I bet this game isn't gonna come out any sooner than it came out in Japan.

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
04-09-2008, 02:03 AM
i knew about that already after umm Warriors Orochi and when i saw that pic of nu wa and fu xi ....i didnt know it was them and she is one of my fav. in my sig

Rultzbud
04-09-2008, 04:28 AM
I can't wait for that game.. Of course, I still need Orochi 1... xP

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
04-09-2008, 11:30 PM
i need RBDM

iRob
04-10-2008, 12:47 AM
Whats that^

Anyways very one knows about the orochi game i wonder if OroK knows about it

Anyways please state your favourite game from the series ONLY ONE & also another from XL & Empires

Mine is Dw3 & Dw5 Xl

(Not including DW6)

OrochimaruKakashi
04-10-2008, 12:48 AM
I love Warriors Orochi!!! it's my fav out of all.....cause it combines SW and DW into one awesome game with all the awesome characters....oh and i've discovered another character i love....

I love playing as Mitsunari Ishida....i discovered that when i was trying to level up all the characters.... ^_^ my most fav is still Mitsuhide though.....

i also like Yakimura Sanada, Zhou Yu, and a few others....

and yes!!! i am STOKED for the new game!!!!

iRob
04-10-2008, 12:52 AM
I love Warriors Orochi!!! it's my fav out of all.....cause it combines SW and DW into one awesome game with all the awesome characters....oh and i've discovered another character i love....

I love playing as Mitsunari Ishida....i discovered that when i was trying to level up all the characters.... ^_^ my most fav is still Mitsuhide though.....

i also like Yukimura Sanada, Zhou Yu, and a few others....

and yes!!! i am STOKED for the new game!!!!

Aint we all Lol

But good luck it comes out next year :)

Check out the videos about this game on the link to the site as i posted

OrochimaruKakashi
04-10-2008, 12:55 AM
i saw them!!! it made me even more stoked!!!!

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
04-10-2008, 02:00 AM
Rebirth of Demon Lord
must have
and in DW6 Zhao looks awesome ....so does LU BU

iRob
04-11-2008, 03:20 AM
Rebirth of Demon Lord
must have
and in DW6 Zhao looks awesome ....so does LU BU

They look good but i still think they killed Lu bu with his weapon,Zhao Yun on other hand just keeps improving every game i got nothing against him

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
04-11-2008, 03:53 AM
Lu Bu DIED in DW3
Zhao Yun in real life doesnt have talents but a good officer

i like Zhao Yuns spear in DW6 meanin this one
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u20/Kozzixx/zhao.jpg

iRob
04-12-2008, 06:21 AM
Lu Bu DIED in DW3
Zhao Yun in real life doesnt have talents but a good officer

i like Zhao Yuns spear in DW6 meanin this one
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u20/Kozzixx/zhao.jpg

Yep i understand but do you like that spear to any of his previous ones?

Also what do you mean he died in DW3 ? i thought he was good in all of em up till 6 when they screwed his weapon

Rultzbud
04-14-2008, 06:08 AM
My PS2 died, and I can't play SW2XL now!! T-T

iRob
04-14-2008, 10:20 AM
My PS2 died, and I can't play SW2XL now!! T-T

I finally played that things i like about the game

1.Mercenary Mode awesome my team
1.Nobunaga Oda
Guard .1 Kotato Fuma
Guard .2 Musashi Miyamoto

Favourite new character Yoshimoto Imagawa

Dont judge me yet, My brother told me to play as him cause he thought he really sucked and said if i get through a hard stage he would pay me.

So i took up the offer and i was about to die when i used one of his abilites i never looked at the book, And it was his play dead ability and i survived and finish the stage.

So that why sorry thought i would put my thought on the game:)

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
04-19-2008, 03:30 AM
Wow all of the Empires i defeated and conquer

iRob
04-19-2008, 03:34 AM
In which game?

Ido
04-19-2008, 03:45 AM
I bought DW6, it's okay for me, some of the characters has the same move set, and i hate that, I am trying to unlock the red hare king, and i don't know how the hell i do that lol.

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
04-19-2008, 03:46 AM
i have all of the DW collection cept' DW 1 and 2

and they are good and their ratings are low because Koei made nearly 10 DW games

iRob
04-19-2008, 04:06 AM
I think its 10 Dw games 11 If you include Orochi

Ido
04-19-2008, 05:49 PM
I've been searching out in youtube how to get the red harness, and it's keep saying "Time Tricks" i don't know how to do time tricks, Shika you know how?

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
04-21-2008, 02:01 AM
hmm for which one

ive havent been playing DW in like 1 month because its being fixed

Ido
04-21-2008, 10:55 PM
On Dynasty Warriors 6, i've finished the game in all, but havent gotten the one and only Red Hare King.

Kk, my friend from japan said he's going to bring his Warriors Orochi 2: Rebirth of the Demon Lord.

And yes, i got my PS2 from japan, i got it for a christmas present. :D

Can't wait to use Fu Xi.

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
04-22-2008, 01:09 AM
darn you....wait i could ask my friend too

i havent played since like 5 weeks ago and ive gotten Zhao Yun to this rank i forgot and got like 4 items thats all...

and i want to use Minamoto no Yoshitsune
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/Crimsondramon/YoshitsuneRender1.png

Ido
04-22-2008, 04:39 PM
kk, my friend from japan just arrived at my house.

right now, were playing Musou Orochi: Maou Sairin.

I am playing as his lvl 15 Fu Xi and he's playing as his lvl 17 Minamoto no Yoshitsune.

He brought his memory card.

Can't understand what the game says, so he's 1p xD

iRob
04-27-2008, 03:23 AM
^ How is it

Great can u even understand lol

Ido
04-27-2008, 07:29 PM
It's great dude, but always the same thing lol duh, I barley use Fu Xi anymore, i use Sun Wulkong. He kicks butt, and no i can't understand what they are saying but, were still finishing it xD

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
04-28-2008, 03:19 AM
i like playing it
its fun
Ive been using all the characters

Rultzbud
04-28-2008, 03:50 AM
How's Fu Xi play on Orochi 2??

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
04-28-2008, 10:45 PM
http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee147/xzdarkacezx/koei/

iRob
05-05-2008, 02:39 AM
People we need to get this fc back up and running

SS/Chris how is orochi 2?
And what is your team?

Ido
05-12-2008, 03:52 PM
Sorry guys, i just got back, my friend from japan just left lol, Well anyways, my team in Orochi 2 was Always Fu Xi, Minamoto no Yotsune, Sun Wulkong.

very great people to use, also Rob, Pupunta ako sa bathroom lol, you better understand this xD.

iRob
05-13-2008, 08:52 AM
Sorry guys, i just got back, my friend from japan just left lol, Well anyways, my team in Orochi 2 was Always Fu Xi, Minamoto no Yotsune, Sun Wulkong.

very great people to use, also Rob, Pupunta ako sa bathroom lol, you better understand this xD.

Lol i understand all to well, Have a good time in there:D :D Haha

Ive seen some, cut scenes from Orochi 2 they look good, So you didnt use any of the original characters from Dw/Sw

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
05-20-2008, 03:09 AM
wow i think i lost WO2

but then i have 5 copies XP

wow all the people u use are from others

i used

ZhaoYun
Taigong Wang
NuWa

i pwned

iRob
05-21-2008, 09:27 AM
wow i think i lost WO2

but then i have 5 copies XP

wow all the people u use are from others

i used

ZhaoYun
Taigong Wang
NuWa

i pwned


I want a copy send me one :(

People who dont have Orochi 2, This includes Oroka (you better see this)
I have a release date (month) for when its due out and it is
September

Its a rough date of when it should come out :D

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
05-23-2008, 05:23 AM
i know they ruined it

dam those basterds


uhh idont know about sending you one

Senju
05-29-2008, 10:15 PM
..

iRob
05-31-2008, 10:21 AM
..

Spam instant fail


i know they ruined it

dam those basterds


uhh idont know about sending you one

Thats fine ill just wait till it comes out later this year.

Now main reason of business, I have open a new Orochi style Rpg i am looking for members & mods. There are a lot of characters to choose from and the rules are suited to the game:D
Hope to see you there.

Name: TalkWarriors

Type of site: Roleplay - Sengoku/RoTK

URL: http://z11.invisionfree.com/TalkWarriors/index.php?act=idx

Admin Contact: I am an admin there, Just started looking for new members almost entire roster of Rotk & sengoku characters open.

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
05-31-2008, 09:10 PM
i just made my account there

Ido
05-31-2008, 10:46 PM
Lol, i gonna join in :D

and hey guys again :>

I joined it as Nagamasa Azai.

since i saw Magoichi and Musashi taken -_-

Want me to make you sig and avatar Rob?

iRob
06-01-2008, 01:40 AM
i just made my account there
Hey cool thanks heaps

Lol, i gonna join in :D

and hey guys again :>

I joined it as Nagamasa Azai.

since i saw Magoichi and Musashi taken -_-

Want me to make you sig and avatar Rob?

They are ??? i never knew that? No one has claimed them yet

Also Chris are you any good with codes for the forum, Like skins, Banners etc

Hey thats cool if you can make me another Ava & sig. As long as it has something to do with 1 up:D

_____________________________

My forum is based on a Orochi styled world the kingdoms have collapsed and warriors are scattered amongst the lands, Some even in different lands.

I am adding in new features as we speak, well not really but i will get on it.

Appreciate anyone that can help me with codes and etc

Ido
06-04-2008, 10:30 PM
I can also make you a Nobunaga Avatar for the TalkWarriors Forum.

No sure if i can do skins tho, let me ask my bro later.

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
06-05-2008, 02:09 AM
why are you still validating, Chris
on TW

iRob
06-07-2008, 01:53 AM
why are you still validating, Chris
on TW

Not anymore, I activated your account for Nagamasa. Chris, There was alot of registrations from your email, None of those characters were claimed. In order to claim them there is a thread and you post there.

I can also make you a Nobunaga Avatar for the TalkWarriors Forum.

No sure if i can do skins tho, let me ask my bro later.

Alright i like that avatar but a new one will be a change of pace, Do you want me to post at your shop here on Tn. If you want, You can start a shop at TW if you want.

Alright i have a site for skins but i need to read some more stuff from the Invision free forum site, So ill need time.

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
06-20-2008, 03:23 AM
did you guys see the or know that the site for SW2 crashed 16 hrs later

iRob
06-23-2008, 08:51 AM
did you guys see the or know that the site for SW2 crashed 16 hrs later


I heard about that unlucky. But didnt they bring it back up again?

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
06-24-2008, 06:14 AM
yeah, good for them

iRob
06-24-2008, 09:34 AM
But it not like they need the advertising for the game. It has been out for ages

iRob
11-28-2008, 08:43 AM
Bump

Release date for dynasty warriors 6 empires announced January 29th 09 fir japan and everywhere else February.

Strike Force will be the months just after that.

Also place your critique of Warriors Orochi 2 in here aswell.

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
12-02-2008, 11:13 PM
Game Title (Platform)http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/images/country-japan.gif http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/images/country-china.gif
http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/images/country-us.gif http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/images/country-canada.gif
http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/images/country-uk.gif http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/images/country-euro.gif
Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2 (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/modules.php?type=gm2) (PS3)
Dec 18, 08
Q1, 2009
Q1, 2009
Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2 (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/modules.php?type=gm2) (PS2)
Dec 18, 08
Q1, 2009
-
Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2 (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/modules.php?type=gm2) (XB360)
Dec 18, 08
Q1, 2009
Q1, 2009
Dynasty Warriors: Strikeforce (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/modules.php?type=dwsf) (PSP)
Feb 26, 09
Q1, 2009
Q1, 2009
Dynasty Warriors 6: Empires (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/dw6-empires.php) (PS3)
Jan 29, 09
Q1, 2009
Q1, 2009
Dynasty Warriors 6: Empires (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/dw6-empires.php) (XB360)
Jan 29, 09
Q1, 2009
Q1, 2009
Dynasty Warriors 6 (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/dw6-pc.php) (PC)
Jul 11, 08
Nov 18, 08
Oct 10, 08
Dynasty Warriors 6 (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/dw6-special.php) (PS2)
Oct 02, 08
Nov 18, 08
-
Monster Racers (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/#release) (DS)
Jan 22, 09
Q2, 2009
Q2, 2009
Saihai no Yukue (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/modules.php?type=saihai) (DS)
Oct 23, 08
Unknown
Unknown
Samurai Warriors 3 (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/modules.php?type=sw3) (WII)
2009
Unknown
Unknown
Warriors Orochi 2 (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/modules.php?type=moms) (PS2)
Apr 03, 08
Sep 23, 08
Sep 19, 08
Warriors Orochi 2 (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/modules.php?type=moms) (XB360)
Sep 03, 08
Sep 23, 08
Sep 19, 08
Warriors Orochi 2 (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/moms-psp.php) (PSP)
Nov 27, 08
Unknown
Unknown
Zill O'll: Infinite Plus (http://www.koeiwarriors.co.uk/zoi-plus.php) (PSP)
Dec 25, 08
Unknown
Unknown

*Note: Q1 = Jan to Mar ; Q2 = Apr to Jun ; Q3 = Jul to Sep ; Q4 = Oct to Dec


Dynasty Warriors StrikeForce:
Super Saiyan Version of DW6 Characters

and Samurai Warriors 3 - 4 Nintendo Wii

iRob
12-02-2008, 11:21 PM
Samurai Warriors is meant to be out this is only roughly about December next year. So it should be good, hopefully well worth the wait

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
12-10-2008, 10:29 PM
Release Dates for KOEI games


- Dynasty Warriors 6: Empires (PS3/360) - February 27, 2009

- Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2 (PS3/360) - March 27, 2009

- Dynasty Warriors: Strikeforce (PSP) - April 3, 2009




Warriors Orochi 2 Topic -
Favorite Teams

Mine
-Tech Boys-
ZhaoYun
SanadaYukimura
MinamotoNoYoshitsune

-Power House-
LuBu
HondaTadakatsku
Maeda Keiji

-Speed Warriors-
NuWa
GanNing
ZhangHe

-Mystics-
TaigongWang
FuXi
NuWa

iRob
12-11-2008, 09:24 AM
Release Dates for KOEI games





Warriors Orochi 2 Topic -
Favorite Teams

Mine
-Tech Boys-
ZhaoYun
SanadaYukimura
MinamotoNoYoshitsune

-Power House-
LuBu
HondaTadakatsku
Maeda Keiji

-Speed Warriors-
NuWa
GanNing
ZhangHe

-Mystics-
TaigongWang
FuXi
NuWa

Hah, Your power team was somewhat predictable

Techs:
Musashi Miyamoto
Yoshitsune
Taigong Wang

Power:
Toshiie Maeda
Ieyasu Tokugawa
Guan Yu

Speed:
Xiao Qiao
Mitsuhide Akechi
No

Mystics:
Tai Gong Wang
Fu Xi
Yoshitsune

Dynasty Warriors 6 Character:
Ma Chao & Cao Pi

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
12-12-2008, 12:58 AM
Warriors Orochi 2 Topic
Orochi X vs ????

Which of your teams have beaten Orochi X?

Mine

ZhaoYun
SanadaYukimura
MinamotoNoYoshitsune


Fu Xi
Nu Wa
TaigongWang


Zhao Yun
Taigong Wang
Maeda Toshiie

iRob
12-13-2008, 12:46 PM
Okay;

Tai Gong Wang
Nobunaga Oda
Fu Xi

Yoshitsune no Minamoto
Lu Bu
Zhen Ji

Ma Chao
Zhang Liao
Guan Yu

I think there might be one more but i most of forgot

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
01-14-2009, 02:59 AM
Warriors Orochi Z - PS3

Benkei - new character
+ another character

Benkei works under Yoshitsune


Dream mode-
can choose 3 characters

new stages

iRob
01-14-2009, 03:03 AM
I heard alot about Warriors Orochi X, I might rent it or something. Not sure whether I would buy it, I lost interest in the game after I beat the story modes and other things with it.

Its only DW5 costumes still though. =\

Shikamaru_ShadowNara
02-01-2009, 05:33 AM
Warriors Orochi Z just for $$$

Dynasty Warriors StrikeForce

Ma Chao and Wei Yan = awesome

RasenganWarrior
02-06-2009, 04:48 AM
I had to read one of the chapters for my Non-Western Humanities Class in college

you may not know this but the game is based on a story written in ancient china.

It has 120 chapters and is a very long story

I was in charge of chapter 17 it was actually an interesting story. I thought you might be interested.

iRob
02-08-2009, 05:00 AM
More or less based on the novel written by Luo Guanzhong called '' Romance of the Three Kingdoms'' Which was history as he could retell which is all practically true.

RasenganWarrior
02-08-2009, 08:52 PM
Cao Cao and Lu Bu kick butt

at least in my chapter they did

No idea how it ends though

iRob
02-09-2009, 06:41 AM
Cao Cao and Lu Bu kick butt

at least in my chapter they did

No idea how it ends though

Are you up to a chapter that is about Hu Lao Gate, A man named Dong Zhuo seizes the Imperial Court and the Emperor and Cao Cao puts up a call to arms about it and raises an army led by Yuan Shao?

Which soon dismantles under his very bad leadership.


By the by, Interesting choice with those two characters they have a interesting end. I can tell you if you wish

Ido
09-03-2009, 12:05 AM
Yo peeps, it's Shape Shifter :D

I've been recently playing DW6 on my 360, trying to get the Red Hare King, and It's so freaking hard, I keep getting noob horses.

I got 2 Ebon Kings, 1 Auburn King, 1 Dapple.

Anyone got tips?

NejiTaker
09-03-2009, 01:21 AM
Cao Cao and Lu Bu kick butt

at least in my chapter they did

No idea how it ends though

So, how far are ya along in that book? (though you posted this months ago, lol.)