Anbu

[Bushido Brown]

If the ANBU suppose to be the best Ninja after the Hokage why do they always look so weak or never around when something go down

[Uzuki]

Keep in mind Kakashi and Yamato were both ANBU.

[NaruxHina_4_Ever]

ANBU are black ops memeber that are generally anywhere from Chuunin to Jounin level ninjas. They carry out alot of the behind the scene espionage missions and are sort of tactical support units. They aren't always the best but they are skilled. Remember most of the time we have seen ANBU they have been up against some of the best fighters around and so appear weaker then they really are.

[Demon_skeith]

Keep in mind Kakashi and Yamato were both ANBU.

don't forget about itachi.

[Nara]

they arent main characters...besides the ones mentioned above

[MinatoNamikaze]

Exactly and they arent chunin level as an above poster said. They are all above jounin and the strongest in the village - the hokage. If you notice it was the ANBU member that were going to help the third take on Orochimaru so they must be just below kage levels (although the strongest may be of kage level like Itachi was)

[Honey]

Exactly and they arent chunin level as an above poster said. They are all above jounin and the strongest in the village - the hokage. If you notice it was the ANBU member that were going to help the third take on Orochimaru so they must be just below kage levels (although the strongest may be of kage level like Itachi was)

^^ agreed.anbu are very strong and skilled

[Hashirama]

Anbu = a bunch of fodder ninjas with masks.

[Marley]

Exactly and they arent chunin level as an above poster said. They are all above jounin and the strongest in the village - the hokage. If you notice it was the ANBU member that were going to help the third take on Orochimaru so they must be just below kage levels (although the strongest may be of kage level like Itachi was) What are you talking about? Kakashi was an ANBU member, then got promoted to jounin. So did Yamato.

[Raikage's left hand]

Anbu = a bunch of fodder ninjas with masks.

This.

Fodder ninja to even someone like Haku.

[KyubiiRage]

What are you talking about? Kakashi was an ANBU member, then got promoted to jounin. So did Yamato.

Actually Kakashi did not get promoted to jonnin.
He became jonnin at the age of 13 then after a couple of years he was chosen as an ANBU.After that he left and took back his position as a jonnin.

Back to the the topic.
ANBU are the best of the best,it's mostly them that get the S Rank missions.
Also as was posted before some of the best ninjas were ANBU

[MinatoNamikaze]

What are you talking about? Kakashi was an ANBU member, then got promoted to jounin. So did Yamato.

No it goes

Genin<Chunin<Jounin<ANBU<Hokage

Anbu is like our special forces who are better than the marines (jounins) who are better than regular infantry (chunin) who are better than soldierrs in training (Genin)

[NaruxHina_4_Ever]

Actually it goes
Genin>Chunin>Jounin>Hokage then Anbu on their own. Remember that AnBU have a range of skills and fighting styles and are grouped accordingly. They can be Jounin level or Chunin level but with the right skills anyone can make ANBU. Remember Sai, he is from the ANBU division and he is high chunin level in skill (Sai isn't Jounin level)

[MaximumGex]

This is what anbu means:

The ANBU, meaning "dark side" is actually short for Ansatsu Senjutsu Tokushu Butai (literally Assassination Tactics Special Military Force). The ANBU work directly under the leadership of the Hokage. This specialized ninja battalion generally work in groups of four to five. They are responsible for assassinations and missions requiring highly trained ninjas. The masks the members wear are based around the signs of the zodiac.

Both Hatake Kakashi and Uchiha Itachi became ANBU at a young age.

[Marley]

Actually Kakashi did not get promoted to jonnin.
He became jonnin at the age of 13 then after a couple of years he was chosen as an ANBU.After that he left and took back his position as a jonnin.

Why in the world would kakashi work his way up to anbu back to jounin? That's a waste of effort. That doesnt make sense, you dont make sense.

[MinatoNamikaze]

Actually it goes
Genin>Chunin>Jounin>Hokage then Anbu on their own. Remember that AnBU have a range of skills and fighting styles and are grouped accordingly. They can be Jounin level or Chunin level but with the right skills anyone can make ANBU. Remember Sai, he is from the ANBU division and he is high chunin level in skill (Sai isn't Jounin level)

Your wrong. Anbu are above Jounin and chunin certainly cant become ANBU. ANBU are the special forces. They are above jounin. And Kakashi went from jounin, to ANBU back to jounin, as yamato has done

[NaruxHina_4_Ever]

But Sai isn't Jounin and there is no way you can convince me his is Jounin level in fighting skills. Anbu (Look at anbu root) can even be trained specifically as ANBU members or can be drawn from any other groups.

There is no way ANBU are above Jounin Level and some are way below jounin level but their unique skill make them good for the more common espionage and black op's missions required.

[Raikage's left hand]

But Sai isn't Jounin and there is no way you can convince me his is Jounin level in fighting skills. Anbu (Look at anbu root) can even be trained specifically as ANBU members or can be drawn from any other groups.


Well Sai's never gone all out in a battle. He is apparently the strongest out of everyone in his generation.

[NaruxHina_4_Ever]

Well Sai's never gone all out in a battle. He is apparently the strongest out of everyone in his generation.
Strong for a shinobi or strong for a black ops operative?? remember they trained to be more behind the scenes kinda fighters and so to them he could be good at espionage and covert operations but not as good in normal situations.

[Raikage's left hand]

Strong for a shinobi or strong for a black ops operative?? remember they trained to be more behind the scenes kinda fighters and so to them he could be good at espionage and covert operations but not as good in normal situations.

Well if the teamwork drills are anything to go off. He was able to capture Yamato and see through his attacks when Naruto was not. But i see your point we really do need a full out battle to gauge whether Sai is as strong as Danzou believes.

[speedygaara]

they are actually really etong even if it dosent seem like it,
and their clothes are soooo awesome!!

[MaximumGex]

Your wrong. Anbu are above Jounin and chunin certainly cant become ANBU. ANBU are the special forces. They are above jounin. And Kakashi went from jounin, to ANBU back to jounin, as yamato has done

Anbu's are not above Jounin. It's not a rank. Just like how a Hunter Ninja also isn't a rank. ANBU can consist of Chuunin and Jounin. These are the only ranks in the Narutoverse - Academy Student > Genin > Chunin > Special Jounin > Jounin > Kage.

ANBU's are only special forces. They work directly under the leadership of the Hokage. Itachi was a Chunin and an ANBU Captain at the same time.

[MinatoNamikaze]

Anbu's are not above Jounin. It's not a rank. Just like how a Hunter Ninja also isn't a rank. ANBU can consist of Chuunin and Jounin. These are the only ranks in the Narutoverse - Academy Student > Genin > Chunin > Special Jounin > Jounin > Kage.

ANBU's are only special forces. They work directly under the leadership of the Hokage. Itachi was a Chunin and an ANBU Captain at the same time.

Yes ANBU isint a rank. But special forces only take the best of the best. Chunin are not as strong as Jounin. Its inconcevable for someone to think they would take a chunin over a jounin. It doesnt happen. And Itachi would ahve been a jounin when he was accepted into ANBU

[NaruxHina_4_Ever]

Yes ANBU isint a rank. But special forces only take the best of the best. Chunin are not as strong as Jounin. Its inconcevable for someone to think they would take a chunin over a jounin. It doesnt happen. And Itachi would ahve been a jounin when he was accepted into ANBU
But they could be taken for unique skills.
If you were to say infiltrate a place who would be better Maito Gai or Ino?
Ino since she can hitch a ride in someones body even tho she is just a chunin.
The ANBU are like that in that they pick specialists for specialised missions.
They also fight directly in which case a chunin could be just as effective as a Jounin (Remember all the Chunin we have seen beat up Jounin)

[Bushido Brown]

But they could be taken for unique skills.
If you were to say infiltrate a place who would be better Maito Gai or Ino?
Ino since she can hitch a ride in someones body even tho she is just a chunin.
The ANBU are like that in that they pick specialists for specialised missions.
They also fight directly in which case a chunin could be just as effective as a Jounin (Remember all the Chunin we have seen beat up Jounin)




Im sure Ino isnt the only person in her clan that can perform that kind of jutsu, and she doesnt even do it that well. I think that they are all jonin cause they know a mulitude of things were a chunin is still learning the way of the ninja. I mean Shikamaru was a genin for like a couple of months then he was a chunin. He still didnt know a lot of stuff(even though he is smarter than most jonins) and you wouldnt know how he would react to a killing or him getting catured

[MinatoNamikaze]

But they could be taken for unique skills.
If you were to say infiltrate a place who would be better Maito Gai or Ino?
Ino since she can hitch a ride in someones body even tho she is just a chunin.
The ANBU are like that in that they pick specialists for specialised missions.
They also fight directly in which case a chunin could be just as effective as a Jounin (Remember all the Chunin we have seen beat up Jounin)

once your in ANBU, you dont have a rank anymore. ANBU takes the best of the best (jounin). They wouldnt take a chunin. If a chunin is strong enough to be in ANBU they wouldh have been accepted as Jounin.

Also about your Ino point, they could use Neji for recon too, but they didnt becasue they arent strong enuogh to take on jounins in battle. Its as simple as that

[Raikage's left hand]

once your in ANBU, you dont have a rank anymore. ANBU takes the best of the best (jounin). They wouldnt take a chunin. If a chunin is strong enough to be in ANBU they wouldh have been accepted as Jounin.

Also about your Ino point, they could use Neji for recon too, but they didnt becasue they arent strong enuogh to take on jounins in battle. Its as simple as that

Who's they? Anbu are Hokage's personal troops. If the hokage thought a chuunin could be Anbu then they would be.

And Neji already is a jounin why couldn't he take on other jounin in battle :confused:

[MinatoNamikaze]

Who's they? Anbu are Hokage's personal troops. If the hokage thought a chuunin could be Anbu then they would be.

And Neji already is a jounin why couldn't he take on other jounin in battle :confused:

Im talking about pre time skip.

Jounin>chunin. I sure we all agree on that and ANBU>Jounin. So why would anbu take a chunin, the second weakest ninja in the village. It would be like taking Ino over kakashi

[NaruxHina_4_Ever]

once your in ANBU, you dont have a rank anymore. ANBU takes the best of the best (jounin). They wouldnt take a chunin. If a chunin is strong enough to be in ANBU they wouldh have been accepted as Jounin.
Not Necessarily.
If a chunin was better for the Job then why not use them?
Why restrict yourself to a very small pool of fighters Remember that probably 75-85% (Rough estimate) of all ninjas are Genin or Chunin and not use the specialist skill when they could be used in a Mission.
Also as I said there is evidence of non-Jounin ANBU members most notably Sai.
And ANBU root was training ANBU from childhood meaning that they would have had Genini,Chunin and Jounin ANBU.



Also about your Ino point, they could use Neji for recon too, but they didnt becasue they arent strong enuogh to take on jounins in battle. Its as simple as that
I was saying infiltration. What if you had to somehow get into a building undetected and steal something. Suppose you only had Ino and Maito Gai to choose from. Who would you pick (This is a hypothetical question)



Jounin>chunin. I sure we all agree on that[QUOTE]

[QUOTE]and ANBU>Jounin. So why would anbu take a chunin, the second weakest ninja in the village. It would be like taking Ino over kakashi
But ranks are deceptive.
Why when chasing the Sound 5 would you send only Genin to take on Chunin and Jounin?? a=Because you can.
Ranks sometimes aren't a good indicator of who will win as we have seen lots of Chunin beat jounin and Genin beat Jounin.
So again why restrict yourself to the rather small pool of Jounin when you could have so many wonderful Chunin specialist fighters?

Also remember that many Chunin are also not Jounin because they specialise in one area to the detriment of others and so are just below Jounin level.

[Shikamaru-Nara]

yea did all the strong ppl die or quit? they suck now they died by a dog lmao ...weaklings

[MinatoNamikaze]

Not Necessarily.
If a chunin was better for the Job then why not use them?
Why restrict yourself to a very small pool of fighters Remember that probably 75-85% (Rough estimate) of all ninjas are Genin or Chunin and not use the specialist skill when they could be used in a Mission.
Also as I said there is evidence of non-Jounin ANBU members most notably Sai.
And ANBU root was training ANBU from childhood meaning that they would have had Genini,Chunin and Jounin ANBU.



I was saying infiltration. What if you had to somehow get into a building undetected and steal something. Suppose you only had Ino and Maito Gai to choose from. Who would you pick (This is a hypothetical question)

They dont chose people for ANBu on a mission by mission base. If they are strong fighters theyre in.


But ranks are deceptive.
Why when chasing the Sound 5 would you send only Genin to take on Chunin and Jounin?? a=Because you can.
Ranks sometimes aren't a good indicator of who will win as we have seen lots of Chunin beat jounin and Genin beat Jounin.
So again why restrict yourself to the rather small pool of Jounin when you could have so many wonderful Chunin specialist fighters?

They sent genin becasue if you remeber correctly, the jounin were all out doing missions.

[NaruxHina_4_Ever]

They dont chose people for ANBu on a mission by mission base. If they are strong fighters theyre in.
I think anyone can be ANBU and you are either picked or you can volunteer. (Or in the case of root you are trained to it.)


They sent genin becasue if you remeber correctly, the jounin were all out doing missions.
What about the one where they had to rescue Gaara? They sent chunin out against S-ranked Jounin criminals. If they are that good why not send ANBU??

[D.I.Y Death]

Another point is when Naruto "killed" Kazuzu(sp?) I mean Naruto isn't even close in rank to an s class criminal and yet he killed one.

[MaximumGex]

once your in ANBU, you dont have a rank anymore. ANBU takes the best of the best (jounin). They wouldnt take a chunin. If a chunin is strong enough to be in ANBU they wouldh have been accepted as Jounin.


Itachi was only a Chunin. Yet, he became a captain of ANBU. They take people by skill and not rank.


once your in ANBU, you dont have a rank anymore. ANBU takes the best of the best (jounin). They wouldnt take a chunin.


Even if you become an ANBU, you still keep your rank.
It's just like a Missing-Nin. Sasuke is still a Genin and Itachi is still a Chuunin even though they're both Missing-Nins.
And ANBU doesn't take only jounins, they also take Chuunins (Itachi). As long as they have skills, they can become ANBU.


If a chunin is strong enough to be in ANBU they wouldh have been accepted as Jounin.
Look at how strong Naruto is. He can probably qualify for a Jounin. But he's still a Genin.



Jounin>chunin. I sure we all agree on that and ANBU>Jounin. So why would anbu take a chunin, the second weakest ninja in the village. It would be like taking Ino over kakashi

Nope. I don't agree with you. Not all Jounin's are better than Chuunins. And not all ANBU are better than Jounin. If you look at Naruto, he's only a Genin but he's way stronger than some Jounin and all Chuunins and he's killed a kage leveled criminal.
Kabuto is only a Genin but killed more than 5 ANBU. He killed several ANBU when he was on his way to kill Sasuke (during Chuunin Exams) but was interfered by Kakashi. He then killed another ANBU to take the ANBU's uniform and mask to disguise himself.
So what you're saying is totally uncorrect.