The Official TN Battledome News Thread.

[WhiteFang]

This the TN Battledome News Thread, which me and the other BD mods are going to be updating regularly, with new information regarding threads, rules, TN Debater Battles, their winners etc. etc.
Apart from that, this thread will also host the various graphics and badges we have alongwith a list of official threads.
It'd be good if you check out this thread every now and then to stay updated and also discuss things which can be added to the Battledome.
Very importantly, please don't spam, and stay on topic.


List of Official Threads:


Itachi Vs Sasuke (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=17569)
Neji Vs Sasuke (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=16600)
Gaara Vs Sasuke (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=16703)
Sage Naruto Vs 3 tailed Kyuubi Naruto (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=16241)
Itachi, Kakashi & Kisame Vs Pein (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=16417)

Naruto Vs Sasuke (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=100)
Itachi Vs Naruto (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=9921)
Pein Vs Madara (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=3523)
Lee Vs Neji (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=11800)
Jiraiya Vs Orochimaru (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=16611)


Jiraiya Vs Naruto (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=2755)
Sasori Vs Jiraiya (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=15230)
Sasuke Vs Kakashi (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=3697)
Classic Akatsuki Battle Royale (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=3254)
Minato Namikaze Vs Sakumo Hatake (Locked) (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=1017)

Minato Vs Pein (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=1840)
Madara Vs Minato (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=2155)
Hinata Vs Sakura (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=3930)
Sasuke Vs Orochimaru (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=1527)
Rock Lee Vs Sasuke (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=4157)

Itachi Vs Madara (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=12097)
Itachi and Sasuke Vs Jiraiya (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=9282)
Team 7 Vs Itachi and Kisame (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=11839)
Neji Vs Gaara (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=5699)
Sasori Vs Itachi (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=4983)

Shino Vs Deidara (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=858)
Hiashi Vs Kakashi (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=5613)
Hokages Vs Akatsuki (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=1899)
Tobi Vs Kakashi (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=2409)
Kakashi & Gai Vs Itachi (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=12062)

Hokage Battle (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=1523)
Itachi Vs The Sannin (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=11367)
Sasuke Vs Kakuzu (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=6112)
Lee Vs Itachi (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=7468)
Naruto Vs Kakashi (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=870)

Itachi Vs Kisame (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=1851)
Kisame Vs Shikamaru (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=968)
Itachi & Jiraiya Vs Naruto & Sasuke (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=16991)
Sharingan Vs Byakugan Vs Rinnegan (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=3109)
Kakashi Vs Gaara (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=18950)

Naruto Vs Pein (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=18827)
Sasuke Vs Sasori (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=18637)
Naruto Vs Raikage (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=19074)
Itachi Vs Raikage (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=19069)
Itachi Vs Nagato (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=17728)

Gai Vs Itachi (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=19599)
Sasuke & Itachi Vs Pein (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=18622)
Naruto Vs Gaara (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=19700)
Minato Vs Jiraiya (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=19746)
Sasuke Vs Jiraiya (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=19524)

Jiraiya vs. Deidara (http://www.talknaruto.com/naruto/showthread.php?22841-Jiraiya-vs.-Deidara-%28Official-Thread%29)
Sasori vs. Kisame (http://www.talknaruto.com/naruto/showthread.php?22842-Sasori-vs.-Kisame-%28Official-Thread%29)
Deidara vs. Minato (http://www.talknaruto.com/naruto/showthread.php?20656-Deidara-vs.-Minato-%28Official-Thread%29)
Minato vs. 3rd Raikage (http://www.talknaruto.com/naruto/showthread.php?23316-Minato-vs.-3rd-Raikage-%28Official-Thread%29)
Kakuzu vs. Sasori (http://www.talknaruto.com/naruto/showthread.php?22757-Kakuzu-vs.-Sasori-%28Official-Thread%29)



~TN Debater Battles, Rules and Regulations~

First of all, currently, we have 2 sets of badges.


Sharingan Set.

Level 1
1 tomoe sharingan http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/Lord-of-Lies/1winbadge.png

Level 2
2 tomoe sharingan http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/Lord-of-Lies/2winbadge.png

Level 3
3 tomoe sharingan http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/Lord-of-Lies/3winbadge.png

Level 4
Mangekyou sharingan http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/Lord-of-Lies/IrmaouMS.png
Note: We have all the Mangekyou Sharingans, just this one is for display. The others can be viewed here. (http://www.talknaruto.com/naruto/showthread.php?14711-Official-Graphics-for-Naruto-Battledome.&p=825061&viewfull=1#post825061)

Shuriken Set.

Level 1
Bronze shuriken http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/Shurbronzesmlr.png

Level 2
Silver shuriken http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/Shurorigsmlr.png

Level 3
Gold shuriken http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/Shurgoldsmlr.png

Level 4
Trench Knives http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/trenchknife2.png http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/trenchknife3.png

EDIT: WE NOW HAVE ANOTHER BADGE-SET.

New*

Seals Set.

Level 1
Curse-Seal http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/badges/heavenseal.png

Level 2
Sealed Curse-Seal http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/badges/k-heavenseal.png

Level 3
Hyuuga Seal 1 http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/badges/hyuugaseal_col2.png, Hyuuga Seal 2 http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/badges/hyuugasealX_col.png, Root tongue Seal http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/badges/rootseal2.png

Level 4
Kyuubi Seal http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/a21cdb4d.png, Shiki Fuujin Seal http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/badges/shikifuujin.png

Note: For Level #1 and #2, we have all the curse seals of different characters. They can be viewed here. (http://www.talknaruto.com/naruto/showthread.php?14711-Official-Graphics-for-Naruto-Battledome.&p=825061&viewfull=1#post825061)


We will have two battle categories:

1. Themed Battles:
These will involve a specific theme, like most creative thread creator, or most factually correct member.. etc. etc. Winners of these battles will get custom made badges, made specially for the battle itself. These battles shall also be less frequent.

2. Regular Battles:
This will just involve a normal person X Vs person Y situation. Maybe some general arena like debating or sig-making etc. etc. can be taken into consideration. Winners of these battles will get sharingan/shurikens/seals, which shall be governed by the rules mentioned below. As the name signifies, these battles will take place regularly.

Badge distribution:

A. Winners of a Regular X Vs Y battle will win a Level 1 badge of their choice, from those available.

B. Winners of a Regular X Vs Y Vs Z battle (i.e one involving three people) will win a Level 2 badge of their choice, from those available.

C. Winners of a Regular Multi Member battle (i.e. one involving more than three people) will win a Level 3 badge of their choice, from those available.

D. Winners of Themed battles will get custom badges made specifically for that battle.


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As the members accumulate badges, they will progress through 7 levels, based on the criteria stated below:

LAST UPDATED/CHANGED: 9th June, 2010.

Level 1: Winning 1 Level 1 Badge gets you to Level 1 and allows you to have an available Level 1 badge of your choice under your username. For example - a one-tomoe sharingan or a curse seal etc.

Level 2: Winning 1 Level 2 badge gets you two Level 2 immediately and allows you to have an available Level 2 badge of your choice under your username.

Alternatively, winning another Level 1 badge in addition to the Level 1 requirements gets you to Level 2 and upgrades your existing Level 1 badge to a Level 2 badge from the same set.

Level 3: Winning 1 Level 3 badge gets you to Level 3 immediately and allows you to have an available Level 3 badge of your choice under your username.

Alternatively, if you have won three Level 1 badges, you can exchange them to get to Level 3 and upgrade your existing badge to a Level 3 badge.

Level 4: Winning 1 custom badge in addition to the above gets you to Level 4 and allows you to upgrade your existing three-tomoe sharingan to a Mangekyou Sharingan of your choice OR if you have been following the Shurikens, its gonna get upgraded to Asuma's kewl trench knives OR if you've been following the Seals, you get to choose from the awesome Kyuubi Seal and Shiki Fuujin Seal.
Also, you can put that custom badge under your username if you so please.

Level 5: Winning 2 more custom badges in addition to the above gets you to Level 5. You can put 3 custom badges of your choice in addition to your Sharingan/Shuriken/Seals under your username. Which means, at a particular time, you can have 4 badges under your username. In addition, now, when you vote in a future TN Debater Battle, your vote will carry 2 points.

Level 6: Winning 2 custom badges in addition to the above gets you to Level 6. Getting to this Level will get you perks, like extra PM space, any custom badge of your choice and a custom user-title.

Level 7: Winning 3 custom badges in addition to the above gets you to Level 7, the final level.

Other notes:


Apart from the sharingan and shuriken badge sets we have currently.. we could eventually add more sets to enable more choice and hence, more fun!

Instead of having bland names like Level 1, Level 2 and so on.. we should think up some more creative and exciting names.

The Level will get represented by being put in the text of the badge. For example, when someone hovers their cursor over a two-tomoe sharingan, it should say Level 2 and so on.

When people get to Level 4 (i.e. attain the MS/ Trench Knife), their further upgrade in Level can be indicated by change in text of that MS/Trench Knife itself.

When users get to Level 6, they can get a Rinnengan instead of the sharingan if they so please. The shuriken path followers can get something else cool if they want or they too can get the Rinnengan if they want.

There should be some special privilege for those who reach the final Level, i.e. Level 7. As Majin had suggested, giving them access to the Battledome Moderation/RPG Moderation is a very good idea. We are still thinking on this one.

The badge system is not just restricted to those of the Battledome, but also includes the RPG section with us now. Which means we'll be having RP Battles too. ^^ The rules and regulations remain the same, however, those battles, their topics etc. shall be taken care of by the Pinkies.
In case of dispute regarding badge upgrades, awards and the like, the decision shall be made by the Staff and will be all-encompassing.


If you are uncomfortable with the idea of being involved as one of the contestants in this system, feel free to inform us here and we shall refrain from putting you in a Member Vs Member battle.

Continued in the next post...

[WhiteFang]

*List of Winners*


~BATTLEDOME~


Username, Level, Badges, Details

0ba, Level 2, Silver Shuriken: (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/Shurorigsmlr.png) 1.

D.I.Y Death, Level 1, Custom Badge: 1. Biggest Asshole (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/Lord-of-Lies/assholebadge-1.png) One-tomoe sharingan: (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/Lord-of-Lies/1winbadge.png) 1

Dreamer, Level 1, Bronze shuriken: (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/Shurbronzesmlr.png) 1.

MinatoNamikaze, Level 1, One-tomoe sharingan: (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/Lord-of-Lies/1winbadge.png) 1.

Nikushimi, Level 1, Bronze shuriken: (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/Shurbronzesmlr.png) 1.

Smiley, Level 1, Bronze Shuriken: (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/Shurbronzesmlr.png) 1.

TOTCD, Level 1, One-tomoe sharingan: (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/Lord-of-Lies/1winbadge.png) 1.

vane, Level 1, One-tomoe sharingan: (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/Lord-of-Lies/1winbadge.png) 1.

WhiteFang, Level ?, Custom Badge: 2. (Best Battledome Mod [Debater], Queen of Global Central (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/badges/shinyglobe40.png))





~RPG~


Username, Level, Badges, Details
Jackums, Level 1, One-tomoe sharingan: (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/Lord-of-Lies/1winbadge.png) 1.

Kuro Nagashi, Level 1, One-tomoe sharingan: (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/Lord-of-Lies/1winbadge.png) 1.

taiyana_chan, Level 1, One-tomoe sharingan: (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/Lord-of-Lies/1winbadge.png) 1.



~OTHERS~


KaitouSai100, Level ?,



<The Battles So Far>

Muffin Vs vane (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=16272), [B]Winner: vane.

NaruxHina_4_Ever Vs Smiley (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=17204), [B]Winner: Smiley.

0ba Vs MinatoNamikaze Vs Jackums (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=17401), [B]Winner 0ba

Kuro Nagashi Vs Silver Cross [RPG] (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=17479), Winner: Kuro Nagashi

WhiteFang Vs Nikushimi [Battledome] (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=17318), Winner: Nikushimi

D.I.Y Death Vs Smiley [Battledome] (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=17617), Winner: D.I.Y Death

Jackums Vs Schrodinger [RPG] (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=17880), Winner: Jackums

majinsharingan Vs Muffin Vs WhiteFang [Battledome] (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=17745), Winner: WhiteFang

The Global Central Battle Royale! (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=18454) Winner: WhiteFang

TOTCD Vs Soul [Battledome] (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=19285), Winner: TOTCD

GangstaKage vs Nyanki vs Kuro Nagashi [RPG] (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=20684), Winner: Nyanki

Priestess of Suzaku vs LostLegend [Bookstore] (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?p=1041093), Winner: LostLegend

Dreamer vs Jackums [Battledome] (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=20879), Winner: Dreamer

[WhiteFang]

GRAPHICS:


http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/sanafight2.png
^ Credit to Nyanki (http://www.talknaruto.com/member.php?u=428).^
You can rep her Here. (http://www.talknaruto.com/showpost.php?p=858902&postcount=38) Feel free to put it in your sig and show your support.

For TN
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/sanafight2.png (http://www.talknaruto.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27)
For other sites
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/sanafight2.png (http://www.talknaruto.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27)

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http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/JiraiyaVItachi5.png
^ Credit to Nyanki (http://www.talknaruto.com/member.php?u=428).^
You can rep her Here. (http://www.talknaruto.com/showpost.php?p=858902&postcount=38) Feel free to put it in your sig and show your support.

For TN
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/JiraiyaVItachi5.png
For other sites
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/SamuraiPizzaCat/talknaruto/JiraiyaVItachi5.png (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=16991)

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http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww357/sproxy08/MadaravsPeinsig.png
^ Credit to an anonymous contributor. Much thanks to you. ^
Feel free to put it in your sig and show your support.

For TN
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww357/sproxy08/MadaravsPeinsig.png (http://www.talknaruto.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27)
For other sites
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww357/sproxy08/MadaravsPeinsig.png (http://www.talknaruto.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27)

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http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww357/sproxy08/Itachisig.png
^ Credit to an anonymous contributor. Much thanks to you. ^
Feel free to put it in your sig and show your support.

For TN
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww357/sproxy08/Itachisig.png (http://www.talknaruto.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27)
For other sites
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww357/sproxy08/Itachisig.png (http://www.talknaruto.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27)


IMPORTANT!

We are still in need for graphics for the Battledome. So if you are interested, please drop a quick post here itself or PM me.

Also, we shall need custom badges for the Themed Battles, as explained above, so offcourse, we will need volunteers for the task. Your support and efforts are much appreciated.

After each weekly battle, we shall be declaring the winner in this thread itself and then updating the Winners' list.


Shout-Outs!
My sincere thanks go out to (not in any particular order):

D.I.Y Death (http://www.talknaruto.com/member.php?u=9187) for the Sharingan badge set and many other badges, and his general support and interest. ^^

Nyanki (http://www.talknaruto.com/member.php?u=428) first and foremost for the Shuriken badge set and also for being the one with the "Will of Fire" who helped this project take steam. Her constant support and ideas were truly invaluable and I can't thank her enough. She's been pivotal to this project.

KaitouSai100 (http://www.talknaruto.com/member.php?u=158) for always listening to us and bearing with us and approving all our ideas. Always helping us in every way possible to make them come true. And finally, the Fascist Dictator Badges multiplied!

And how can ever forget to send out a big hug and thanks to my dearest comrades, my fellow BD mods. Majin was always there to refine everything to the point of perfection by being the prefect critic and Muffin... she was the silent support and the one who kept me fresh and smiling, always. with her classy Uchiha jokes. xD

Last, but definitely not the least, I'd like to say a very heartfelt "THANKYOU" to EVERYONE. The entire Staff and especially the wonderful members, who have helped this project come to completion by their contributions, suggestions, activeness and what not.
Thankyou, and I couldn't have done it without you.

[WhiteFang]

CREATING A THREAD.

Try and use the following format when creating a thread:


TITLE:
X vs Y. Put "Conditions" or "Condition Thread" in brackets if you're making a thread with specific conditions.
Example-
Itachi vs Sasuke (Conditions)

CONTENT:
Use this general format for the first post of your thread (or something similar):

Location:
Distance:
Abilities:
Restrictions:
Mindset:


If confused, feel free to refer to an existing Official Thread.

Search "Official Thread" before making a battle. Chances are there's a already an existing thread and you are creating a duplicate. Alternatively, look into the Naruto Battledome Directory (http://www.talknaruto.com/naruto/showthread.php?22570-Naruto-Battledome-Directory).
If you find a similar thread but are interested in something different, make a new thread and specify your conditions and use the title format.
Never write "Official Thread" on your own when making a new thread for a new battle concerning new characters whose official thread doesn't exist. We'll decide if it merits an official thread label or not.



OFFICIAL AND CONDITION THREADS.

There will be two types of threads: Official threads and Condition threads.

Official threads will be general in nature and allow you to discuss a certain general unbiased scenario concerning the characters, for example-
Itachi vs Jiraiya. The official thread for this will probably be based on who will win amongst the two fighters, without any restriction and with the abilities we've seen in the manga till they were last seen. This also saves us from unnecessary side debates like "If Itachi had been healthy then..."

Condition threads as the name indicates will have specific conditions specified by the OP. Again taking the same example-
Itachi vs Jiraiya. Then the OP can specify a condition like: Itachi is healthy and it allows him to do this, this and this etc.

[MinatoNamikaze]

I love it:D Great work fang :lol:

[Nikushimi]

This the TN Battledome News Thread, which me and the other BD mods are going to be updating regularly, with new information regarding threads, rules, TN Debater Battles, their winners etc. etc.

So much for that, amirite?

So what's the deal with this? How are winners determined? Why has this whole thing seemingly been forgotten?

[WhiteFang]

^ Comment unwanted and un-needed. Maybe if you'd pay more attention you'd know that a battle is already in place right here. (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=17204) And if you'd bother to read all that's written in the first 2 posts, you'd know the procedure for deciding winners. So go ahead and vote if you please. ;) And we don't have a poll so that there is more check on who's voting and who isn't.

Also, you can make suggestions for TNDB's you'd like to see right here in this thread, among other things, its this threads purpose too. If a particular one is very popular, it will get scheduled for next week. Till then offcourse, we're gonna be rotating the members so as to give everyone an equal and fair chance.

[Nikushimi]

Right, I knew that. ;>___>

The first post here was kinda tl;dr though.

[WhiteFang]

^ :lmao: Didn't want to sound that harsh. I was just a bit.. tired. So kinda in a bad mood. xD

Anyways, what does tl;dr mean? Something to do with differentiation? Ya know, the 'dr'?

[MinatoNamikaze]

Ok so i was just thinking of a new rule in light of experience in the member vs member battle. I think adding a rule to the effect of not being able to vote unless you have seen both participants in a debate. Just a thought though

[Nikushimi]

RW already suggested that in the versus thread between NxH4ever and Smiley.


^ :lmao: Didn't want to sound that harsh. I was just a bit.. tired. So kinda in a bad mood. xD

Anyways, what does tl;dr mean? Something to do with differentiation? Ya know, the 'dr'?

"Too long; didn't read."

[MinatoNamikaze]

No he suggested that you cant post based on whether your opinions matched. Mine is a little different cause it takes away from votes that arent really educated ones

[WhiteFang]

RW already suggested that in the versus thread between NxH4ever and Smiley.

"Too long; didn't read."

:facepalm: I feel stupid.
I've been reading too much Calculus. :susp:


Ok so i was just thinking of a new rule in light of experience in the member vs member battle. I think adding a rule to the effect of not being able to vote unless you have seen both participants in a debate. Just a thought though


No he suggested that you cant post based on whether your opinions matched. Mine is a little different cause it takes away from votes that arent really educated ones

That's a very good suggestion, Kaze.

I'll actually put it in the OP of the next battles. It should be there to prevent uneducated votes, like you said. :)


ANNOUNCEMENT

We have the winner of our very first TNDB (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=17204).

And the winner is:

Smiley (http://www.talknaruto.com/member.php?u=2792)

A hearty congrats to him, and also Adam, for being a very worthy opponent.

Smiley, you shall be receiving your badge shortly, but please specify which badge-set you'd like to choose. ^^ Sharingan or Shuriken are the two options available atm. You can check them out in the first post.

Btw, guys, get a little more active will ya? xD
Throw in some more suggestions about battles, themes etc. you'd like to see and have implemented. :D

[Smiley]

Sorry for the late response, been busy lately.

Meh, I dunno. One-tomoe Sharingan sounds pretty "Chuunin-level" as Niku would put it. So yeah, I'd like the Shuriken one.

...

I'M MORE HARDCORE THAN YOU GUYS NOW

[WhiteFang]

^ :lol: Sure. :D The shuriken it is. I'll put it in the list right away, and you should get it under your username shortly. ^^

[MinatoNamikaze]

So any idea who the next battle is goign to be between?

EDIT:

:facepalm: nvm :xd:

[WhiteFang]

^ Actually, Kaze, sweety, your a bit behind.

Its already started Here:

http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=17318

I bet you're gonna flip! :p xD

[MinatoNamikaze]

lol ^^ ya i noticed as soon as i posted it and went to check if it was up :xd: my bad

[caleb08]

Would you start 2 battles at once?
Like right now Muffin is in charge of the Niku vs. Whitefang thread.
Whitefang, you could start another thread.

And I never did say how GREAT of an idea this is.

[WhiteFang]

^ Actually, that would just become too difficult to maintain, but its a suggestion, so we can think about it.

But for now, its one battle per week. It gives sufficient time for voting, there's no diversion of attention, because of which people can concentrate on one and find exactly who they want to vote for and why.

So yeah, thanks for the suggestion. We'll try and incorporate it if possible and if my team-mates approve.

[caleb08]

Thanks for taking my suggestion into consideration.
Appreciate it.

[MinatoNamikaze]

Having 2 a week would just make it less...... attractive. Just like with a manga, if they released chapters everyday, there would not be anytime for debating or specualting or enough time to leave you dieing for more and thus looses its appeal. Thats my thoughts on the issue atleast

So do we have any idea what the next battle is going to be? If we dont, id be happy to come up with some ideas and suggestions

[Jαckums]

Dang, I missed it. Oh well, I was gonna vote for Smiley anyway.

Biggest Itachi fan -- MN or Niku. =3.
I'd like to see that as a theme.

I should start posting in the BD more often.
It'd be good to see what people think of me if I'm any good at debating, x3.

[Raikage's left hand]

Dang, I missed it. Oh well, I was gonna vote for Smiley anyway.

Biggest Itachi fan -- MN or Niku. =3.
I'd like to see that as a theme.

I should start posting in the BD more often.
It'd be good to see what people think of me if I'm any good at debating, x3.

Niku would take that by a landslide.

If you want to post ideas go ahead although the staff won't tell you if we're going to use it as each weeks new battle should be a surprise to everyone but the staff :p

[WhiteFang]

^ Lol, yeah. Another battle is up btw. xD. You can vote in that. Its in the misc section. =]

And, I have considered the Itachi fan one, but personally I don't think being a "fan" and consequently being "biased" ever merits ANYONE as a good debater. Its not a plus point, atleast, but a negative one.

[Jαckums]

Awesome. I'll check it out.

And yeah. It was mentioned once before so I thought it was allowed.
If it is solely for the best debators, some of us have no reason to participate. x3.

Me for example. I doubt i'd get even one vote when matched against someone like
DIY, Smiley, Niku, Muffin, or You.

But hey. It's not up to me. =3.
Tbh, I don't really mind either. Don't mind me :D


Niku would take that by a landslide.

If you want to post ideas go ahead although the staff won't tell you if we're going to use it as each weeks new battle should be a surprise to everyone but the staff :p

Maybe so. But we'd have to make the thread to find out :p

lolyeah. Well that is one of the points of this thread isn't it? x3.

[MinatoNamikaze]

Dang, I missed it. Oh well, I was gonna vote for Smiley anyway.

Biggest Itachi fan -- MN or Niku. =3.
I'd like to see that as a theme.

I should start posting in the BD more often.
It'd be good to see what people think of me if I'm any good at debating, x3.

lmao thatd be a tough one. I used to show my Itachi fanness alot more when i had alot more time to be on TN. But if people knew how much i liked Itachi it would be a lnadslide in my favor tbh :p I have an unhealthy obsession with Itachi. I cant go into detail caue i would look like a complete dork :lmao: :lol: But anyway, i like the idea of the battles being a secret.

@Jackum What are you talking about, you could easily get points against all the peopl eyou have mentioned. You underestimate yourself :lol: :hug:

[Nikushimi]

lmao thatd be a tough one. I used to show my Itachi fanness alot more when i had alot more time to be on TN. But if people knew how much i liked Itachi it would be a lnadslide in my favor tbh :p I have an unhealthy obsession with Itachi. I cant go into detail caue i would look like a complete dork :lmao: :lol: But anyway, i like the idea of the battles being a secret.

Your confidence is admirable.

But what I possess is more than confidence.

It is audacity.



So I don't doubt that you are strongly inspired by and dedicated to Itachi. However, it would take a lot of convincing for me to actually believe that there's anyone as Itachi-obsessed as I.

[WhiteFang]

Geez, Itachitards, we know of your fandom whole-heartedly. So its not like you have something to prove. :p

On the other hand...
there is no other Kakashitard around.... >.>

On the bright side though; no competition. :nuts:

[Jαckums]

lmao thatd be a tough one. I used to show my Itachi fanness alot more when i had alot more time to be on TN. But if people knew how much i liked Itachi it would be a lnadslide in my favor tbh :p I have an unhealthy obsession with Itachi. I cant go into detail caue i would look like a complete dork :lmao: :lol: But anyway, i like the idea of the battles being a secret.

Ahah. Yeah. x3.


@Jackum What are you talking about, you could easily get points against all the peopl eyou have mentioned. You underestimate yourself :lol: :hug:

http://i39.tinypic.com/2z6b8co.png

I'm definate I wouldn't. But thanks :D


On the other hand...
there is no other Kakashitard around.... >.>

On the bright side though; no competition. :nuts:

I'm semi-Kakashitard, ;D.

[MinatoNamikaze]

Your confidence is admirable.

But what I possess is more than confidence.

It is audacity.



So I don't doubt that you are strongly inspired by and dedicated to Itachi. However, it would take a lot of convincing for me to actually believe that there's anyone as Itachi-obsessed as I.

lmao I accept your Itachitard challenge :lol: :lol: :xd: :hug:


Geez, Itachitards, we know of your fandom whole-heartedly. So its not like you have something to prove. :p

On the other hand...
there is no other Kakashitard around.... >.>

On the bright side though; no competition. :nuts:

:xd:

[Nyanki]

Thought I'd let everyone know the 4th battle is up (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=17479).

Unlike the others so far, this one's for the RPG section.

[MinatoNamikaze]

Im just gonna through out some ideas for member vs member battles just for possible use later on.

Number 1 kakashi fan

Number 1 Itachi fan

Best theory creator

Number 1 sasuke fan

Ill add more if i think of some

[caleb08]

Im just gonna through out some ideas for member vs member battles just for possible use later on.

Number 1 kakashi fan

Number 1 Itachi fan

Best theory creator

Number 1 sasuke fan

Ill add more if i think of some
Are you saying for instance.
A battle like:
Whitefang (Kakashi fan) vs. Nikushima (Itachi fan)?
Or something like:
MinatoNamikaze vs. Nikushima (who's the number 1 itachi fan)?

[MinatoNamikaze]

Are you saying for instance.
A battle like:
Whitefang (Kakashi fan) vs. Nikushima (Itachi fan)?
Or something else?

No like who is TN's biggest kakashi fan like Fang or so and so

[caleb08]

No like who is TN's biggest kakashi fan like Fang or so and so
Oh yea well thats what I said after I edited my post.

[WhiteFang]

Announcing the winner of our latest brawl:

D.I.Y Death (http://www.talknaruto.com/member.php?u=9187)

Congratulations to DIY for the deserved win, and also to Smiley for being tough opposition as always.


ANNOUNCEMENT! PLEASE READ

This is to inform everyone that the next TNDB has been delayed and shall be taking place coming Sunday. This is due to the site being down for the past couple of days and lack of contact and coordination between the mods. We are sorry for the delay and inconvenience. Stay tuned for Sunday!

[MinatoNamikaze]

But isint the battle already up fagn? Its another RPG one i thought... Maybe were talking about 2 differnt things :xd:

[Nyanki]

I think what happened was that the task was brought to the RPG Staff's attention on Thursday. And when the TN downtime hit, we still hadn't come to any sort of idea that we could work with (it's hard choosing just a few people, especially if you're dealing with other issues as well).

But we Pinkies swiftly discussed it all out when TN reopened, and there you have it. Our awesomeness just wasn't expected. xD

This time, it's Kimen vs. CK (http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=17670), the badge battle of the brothers. RPers, go check it out!

[Nikushimi]

Are you saying for instance.
A battle like:
Whitefang (Kakashi fan) vs. Nikushima (Itachi fan)?
Or something like:
MinatoNamikaze vs. Nikushima (who's the number 1 itachi fan)?

I don't know who this "Nikushima" fellow is, but his username is very similar to mine.

Except for that last letter.

Also, I'm not familiar with the RPG section or its regulars. Unfortunately I can't vote in this next one. D:

[D.I.Y Death]

I don't know who this "Nikushima" fellow is, but his username is very similar to mine.

Except for that last letter.

Also, I'm not familiar with the RPG section or its regulars. Unfortunately I can't vote in this next one. D:

Its your female counterpart and she's as ugly as a troll :(

[MinatoNamikaze]

Its your female counterpart and she's as ugly as a troll :(

ouch thats harsh. So anyone know what the next battle is?

[Raikage's left hand]

In regards to the GC battle royale battle the winnar in first place was the glorious WhiteFang.

Second place is a tie between Adam and Venus.

Congratulations to all participants.

[MinatoNamikaze]

Why did we close the konoha vs akatsuki thread?? Sure i got a neg rep for no reason cause im not saying anything stupid, but fang and i had a good little debate going there

[@li]

@minatonamikaze
well, every one was saying that the battle would be chaos and there is no certain way of knowing who would win the battle due to various circumstances that come into play, as alot of users agreed with that theory, there was no purpose in keeping the thread open.. since the question asked was already answered.
Though, i am sorry if your debate got interrupted. I had no intention of doing that but since majority already concluded, there simply was no point :)
unless of course, if whitefang does want to carry on the debate with you, you can reopen the thread. :)

[D.I.Y Death]

Why did we close the konoha vs akatsuki thread?? Sure i got a neg rep for no reason cause im not saying anything stupid, but fang and i had a good little debate going there

Was that really a shock? You were the only one not saying that the battle could go to any side easily due to it being a total gong show.

[WhiteFang]

I guess that thread is just much better off closed. That's because it really doesn't have a conclusion. Too many factors. We'll not be able to account for them properly, ever.

Though you and were having a nice little debate, it was basically pointless. We can continue it in the Discussion thread if you want though, but I'm forewarning that I have exams and won't be as active for the upcoming week or so.

[0ba]

Kisame alone could flood the whole Konoha and kill everyone. :xd:

'sup, Fang-chan?

[WhiteFang]

^ Move this convo here:

http://www.talknaruto.com/showthread.php?t=16750

Talk as much as you want. xD

What's up? Nothing. Everything's down. Dx Exams. Stupid internet dying again. 'Nuff said.

[MinatoNamikaze]

So any news on an upcomming member vs member battle??

[X-Drake]

Why did we close the konoha vs akatsuki thread?? Sure i got a neg rep for no reason cause im not saying anything stupid, but fang and i had a good little debate going there

Becuase Akatsuki > Konoha....No contest...


Pain does what he done to destroy it....Everyone is hurt...Itachi sets amatrasu burning everywhere....Zetsu takes the chakra of everyone manly Tsunade...Kazaku cuases mayhem...Kisame bijuu's everyone....Deidara helps pain with a next explosion...Konan kills Tsunade...No one can help them....Sasori and his Army makes sures everyone dies....The pain bodies do there stuff....

ITs rape...Maybe only the House of Hyuuga can help...Thats it..

[MinatoNamikaze]

Becuase Akatsuki > Konoha....No contest...


Pain does what he done to destroy it....Everyone is hurt...Itachi sets amatrasu burning everywhere....Zetsu takes the chakra of everyone manly Tsunade...Kazaku cuases mayhem...Kisame bijuu's everyone....Deidara helps pain with a next explosion...Konan kills Tsunade...No one can help them....Sasori and his Army makes sures everyone dies....The pain bodies do there stuff....

ITs rape...Maybe only the House of Hyuuga can help...Thats it..

My meoery may be a little off but i thnk it was cloased bc akasuki would loose. But thats old news now

[D.I.Y Death]

My meoery may be a little off but i thnk it was cloased bc akasuki would loose. But thats old news now

Depends on the objective. If total destruction is wanted without any regard for collateral damage Deidara and Pein is all they actually need to reduce Konoha to 1/100th of its population and reduce all the buildings to rubble.

If its a Konoha vs Akat battle where everyone knows what's happening Konoha has a good chance at beating the bad guys.

[Nikushimi]

Circumstance is also important. If it's a planned assault that Konoha has no knowledge is coming, then there are Akatsuki members (i.e., Itachi, Pain, Deidara, etc.) who could plausibly solo by using large-scale AoE destructive techs and/or exploiting intimate knowledge of the village's security.

I'm pretty sure that the full force of Akatsuki at one time would completely waste Konoha with minimal effort, though. Look what Pain did by himself... Just add the rest of the Akatsuki on top of that.

[WhiteFang]

^ I'm behind. D: Tell me why we're discussing this?

As for my take on the situation and why it was closed:

It was closed because, as Nikushimi mentioned, the thread was very circumstantial and had a host of variables.

In that particular thread, Jiraiya was alive. And even Sandaime, though I'm not sure. And Naruto was a Sage and in the village and blah blah blah. So basically, Niku-kun, your scenario of extrapolation of putting all Akatsuki on top off what Pein did won't work. Further, in a battle of that magnitude, and the chaos, who's to say that stalwarts like Jiraiya or maybe Itachi, won't get killed by a simple stray kunai?

Which is why that thread was basically going in circles which was leading to unpleasant exchanges, and hence was closed.

Anymore questions?

[Jαckums]

I was just reading over the badge rules and noticed this.


As the members accumulate badges, they will progress through 7 levels, based on the criteria stated below:

Level 1: Winning 3 one-tomoe Sharingans/Bronze shurikens gets you to Level 1 and allows you have a one-tomoe Sharingan/Bronze shuriken under your username.

Level 2: Winning 2 two-tomoe Sharingans/Silver shurikens in addition to the above gets you to Level 2 and upgrades your existing one-tomoe sharingan/Bronze shuriken to a two-tomoe sharingan/ Silver shuriken respectively.

Level 3: Winning 1 three-tomoe Sharingan/Gold shuriken in addition to the above gets you to Level 3 and upgrades your existing two-tomoe sharingan/Silver shuriken to a three-tomoe sharingan/Gold shuriken respectively.

Level 4: Winning 1 custom badge in addition to the above gets you to Level 4 and allows you to upgrade your existing three-tomoe sharingan to a Mangekyou Sharingan of your choice OR if you have been following the Shurikens, its gonna get upgraded to Asuma's kewl trench knives, so you can choose the set you like better! ;).
Also, you can put that custom badge under your username if you so please.

Level 5: Winning 3 more custom badges in addition to the above gets you to Level 5. You can put 3 custom badges of your choice in addition to your Sharingan/Shuriken under your username. Which means, at a particular time, you can have 4 badges under your username. In addition, now, when you vote in a future TN Debater Battle, your vote will carry 2 points.

Level 6: Winning 5 custom badges in addition to the above gets you to Level 6. Getting to this Level will get you perks, like extra PM space, any custom badge of your choice and a custom user-title.

Level 7: Winning 7 custom badges in addition to the above gets you to Level 7, the final level.
I always assumed you upgraded your badge by winning a member battle.
Eg. Win your second battle and you get to upgrade from one-tomoe to two-tomoe.

I honestly don't think many people are going to get anywhere near a mid-level badge with the rules as they currently are. Mainly due to TN's lack of activity, plus the obvious reasons of having to win so many battles.

I think it should be simplified, as I explained. Or at least changed, to make it a little less difficult.

[0ba]

I was just reading over the badge rules and noticed this.


I always assumed you upgraded your badge by winning a member battle.
Eg. Win your second battle and you get to upgrade from one-tomoe to two-tomoe.

I honestly don't think many people are going to get anywhere near a mid-level badge with the rules as they currently are. Mainly due to TN's lack of activity, plus the obvious reasons of having to win so many battles.

I think it should be simplified, as I explained. Or at least changed, to make it a little less difficult.Yeah, you have to win more battles to upgrade your badges. That's what makes it difficult, and makes you more 'awesome' when you eventually win it. We aren't doing enough battles and selecting the same people over and over again will only make others feel left out. You just have to wait your turn. For example, you've been in 2 battles already. Others should have the chance to win too.

[Jαckums]

Yeah, you have to win more battles to upgrade your badges. That's what makes it difficult, and makes you more 'awesome' when you eventually win it. We aren't doing enough battles and selecting the same people over and over again will only make others feel left out. You just have to wait your turn. For example, you've been in 2 battles already. Others should have the chance to win too.


It's not about me. I'm saying for anyone it's going to take way too long to gain ranks.

It's not just a challenge, it's extremely difficult. There's TN's lack of activity, plus the fact that the same person won't be in a battle twice in a short-ish period of time. Then there's the fact that you only have a 1 in 2 chance of winning a member battle. Even less if it's a 3-way or multi-member battle.

Simply having it as "every won battle upgrades your badge a level" will still be quite difficult, but it's much more reasonable than the current rules.

[WhiteFang]

I was just reading over the badge rules and noticed this.


I always assumed you upgraded your badge by winning a member battle.
Eg. Win your second battle and you get to upgrade from one-tomoe to two-tomoe.

I honestly don't think many people are going to get anywhere near a mid-level badge with the rules as they currently are. Mainly due to TN's lack of activity, plus the obvious reasons of having to win so many battles.

I think it should be simplified, as I explained. Or at least changed, to make it a little less difficult.

What 0ba said. And also what I'm gonna say.


Yeah, you have to win more battles to upgrade your badges. That's what makes it difficult, and makes you more 'awesome' when you eventually win it. We aren't doing enough battles and selecting the same people over and over again will only make others feel left out. You just have to wait your turn. For example, you've been in 2 battles already. Others should have the chance to win too.


__________________________________________________ _________________


It's not about me. I'm saying for anyone it's going to take way too long to gain ranks.

It's not just a challenge, it's extremely difficult. There's TN's lack of activity, plus the fact that the same person won't be in a battle twice in a short-ish period of time. Then there's the fact that you only have a 1 in 2 chance of winning a member battle. Even less if it's a 3-way or multi-member battle.

Simply having it as "every won battle upgrades your badge a level" will still be quite difficult, but it's much more reasonable than the current rules.

First of all, the difficulty you've mentioned, I've had it in mind for a little while. The reason the rules are set-up the way they are because they were set-up at a time when TN was much more active than it is now.

But given TN's current level of activity; I understand how upgrading the badges is an uphill task and may actually put off people. Which is why, even before you posted, I was about to discuss some changes with the rest of the Staff.

In any case, it's never going to be made as simple as "Upgrade your badge with each battle you win" because that will simply rid it of it's charm, like 0ba explained. However, we'll most probably reduce the number of battles required for each upgrade. Atleast till when the activity picks up a bit more. Because you see, we always have to keep the future in mind too. If we have a large number of people running around with badges, it will reduce their sanctity.

Any more suggestions/queries?

[Jαckums]

First of all, the difficulty you've mentioned, I've had it in mind for a little while. The reason the rules are set-up the way they are because they were set-up at a time when TN was much more active than it is now.

But given TN's current level of activity; I understand how upgrading the badges is an uphill task and may actually put off people. Which is why, even before you posted, I was about to discuss some changes with the rest of the Staff.

In any case, it's never going to be made as simple as "Upgrade your badge with each battle you win" because that will simply rid it of it's charm, like 0ba explained. However, we'll most probably reduce the number of battles required for each upgrade. Atleast till when the activity picks up a bit more. Because you see, we always have to keep the future in mind too. If we have a large number of people running around with badges, it will reduce their sanctity.

Any more suggestions/queries?

Yes, I understand the reasoning for the rules being the way they are, as TN was obviously a lot more active when the badges were brought in. I just thought I'd bring it up, seeing as how we're told to voice our opinions.

Also, I don't think it takes any of the awesomeness away from the badges by making a level gain each member battle won. It's rare that a member will be in a battle multiple times, at least not within a short period. In the time since the member battles were introduced, I've been in two battles. I'm not complaining, as that's more than some people. I'm just saying that, even though they've been around for quite some time now, individual people aren't going to be in multiple member battles often. Plus the fact that they aren't guaranteed a win. It'll take far more than a year for someone to even get to a high level in terms of badges. Unless it's someone like yourself or Smiley, who obviously have a lot of debating skills.

As I've stated already, I've been in a total of two battles (just using myself as an example. No complaining intended). Double the time the member battles have been going and that's, hypothetically, another two battles for me, with a 1 in 2 chance of winning (or less for 3-way or multi-member battles). Along with the high difficulty involved in gaining badge ranks and the fact that there are a total of seven levels, it's going to take forever for me to get anywhere near a higher level badge. Same goes for any other members.

Unless TN's activity miraculously shoots up soon, it's going to remain that way. Although, it's all up to the staff, so there's my opinion on the matter. The rest is left with you. Thanks for the reply too.

[WhiteFang]

Yes, I understand the reasoning for the rules being the way they are, as TN was obviously a lot more active when the badges were brought in. I just thought I'd bring it up, seeing as how we're told to voice our opinions.
Offcourse. And I'm glad you did. :D


Also, I don't think it takes any of the awesomeness away from the badges by making a level gain each member battle won. It's rare that a member will be in a battle multiple times, at least not within a short period. In the time since the member battles were introduced, I've been in two battles. I'm not complaining, as that's more than some people. I'm just saying that, even though they've been around for quite some time now, individual people aren't going to be in multiple member battles often. Plus the fact that they aren't guaranteed a win. It'll take far more than a year for someone to even get to a high level in terms of badges. Unless it's someone like yourself or Smiley, who obviously have a lot of debating skills.

As I've stated already, I've been in a total of two battles (just using myself as an example. No complaining intended). Double the time the member battles have been going and that's, hypothetically, another two battles for me, with a 1 in 2 chance of winning (or less for 3-way or multi-member battles). Along with the high difficulty involved in gaining badge ranks and the fact that there are a total of seven levels, it's going to take forever for me to get anywhere near a higher level badge. Same goes for any other members.

Actually, first of all, if we go with the "a badge upgrade a battle" method, seeing that each badge-set has 4 badges, the member in question will have nothing left to upgrade to in just 4 battles, and then will have to wait just for custom badge battles, which are less frequent.

As for myself or Smiley (and I'm flattered you consider my debating skills are worth such a special mention) the debating skills are really not what's relevant. Basically, the battles are mostly so decided that everyone gets an equal chance, as far as possible, or it's by popular consent. Say, like X number of people say that we'd like to see a battle b/w Y and Z, so we'll conduct that, on popular demand.

Thirdly, the issue of turns coming very less frequently for a particular member, in which you took yourself as an example, I'd like to clarify that that won't be the case. It's been so slow because the Weekly Battles have been interspersed with a decent number of long hiatuses ever since their inception, and have not gone as smoothly.

^ We're trying hard to change the above scenario currently, but as you can see, the response to the latest battle has also been dismal. So we're trying to figure something out.


Unless TN's activity miraculously shoots up soon, it's going to remain that way. Although, it's all up to the staff, so there's my opinion on the matter. The rest is left with you. Thanks for the reply too.
Thankyou for sharing your concerns and opinion too, Jack. :hug: It's appreciated. Only active and interacting members can help us improve and plug loop-holes. :D

[Nyanki]

First, I would like to point out what day is coming up in a few. St. Patrick's Day. A day of green, the color of our dear BD section. Maybe we should start doing something special on this day yearly. :D

the member in question will have nothing left to upgrade to in just 4 battles, and then will have to wait just for custom badge battles, which are less frequent.^This. I agree with this.

The only suggestion that comes to mind for me is that you....Let me use the shurikens as an example to help make it easier. :D Since they all have the same name and such.

Victory 1: Bronze Shuriken
Victory 2: Upgrade to Silver Shuriken
Victory 3: Upgrade to Gold Shuriken
Victory 4: Get another Bronze Shuriken (2 badges now)
Victory 5: Upgrade to Silver Shuriken
Victory 6: Upgrade to Gold Shuriken
Victory 7: Get another Bronze Shuriken (3 badges now)
Victory 8: Upgrade to Silver Shuriken
Victory 9: Upgrade to Gold Shuriken
Victory 10: Trade in them all for a Trench Knife badge. (1 badge now)

So you get a badge, upgrade it to it's Lvl 3, then get another. One at Lvl 3, you get a new Lvl 1 and start the upgrading process over. Once at 3 Lvl 3's, you trade it in for the Lvl 4. 10 is a nice round number, isn't it?

But yeah, the way it goes in selection, the pickings try to go to people who haven't been in a battle yet, which isn't always entirely possible. If we can up our game though, the battles will happen regularly as they should. Ideas are sometimes hard to come by, which is why suggestions are always welcome. :D

[Jαckums]

Actually, first of all, if we go with the "a badge upgrade a battle" method, seeing that each badge-set has 4 badges, the member in question will have nothing left to upgrade to in just 4 battles, and then will have to wait just for custom badge battles, which are less frequent.

They have to win four member battles. It's not likely a member will win every battle they're in either, so they will likely have to participate in at least 6 battles before they get to the 4th badge. That is quite a lot, seeing as how each member has to wait their turn and won't be put into battles frequently in a short period of time.

The time that would take would be quite long.


As for myself or Smiley (and I'm flattered you consider my debating skills are worth such a special mention) the debating skills are really not what's relevant. Basically, the battles are mostly so decided that everyone gets an equal chance, as far as possible, or it's by popular consent. Say, like X number of people say that we'd like to see a battle b/w Y and Z, so we'll conduct that, on popular demand.

I get what you're saying. I just meant that, due to your debating skills, you're much more likely to get votes in comparison to someone like myself (I don't want to mention any particular members, so I'll just stick to me).


Thirdly, the issue of turns coming very less frequently for a particular member, in which you took yourself as an example, I'd like to clarify that that won't be the case. It's been so slow because the Weekly Battles have been interspersed with a decent number of long hiatuses ever since their inception, and have not gone as smoothly.

^ We're trying hard to change the above scenario currently, but as you can see, the response to the latest battle has also been dismal. So we're trying to figure something out.

Even with more frequent battles, there are quite a few members that need to have their turn.

It's good that the staff are trying to get it working again, but it'll still take a long time to get higher level badges with the current rules. Although, since you said you're working on something a little easier, I'll leave it there.


Thankyou for sharing your concerns and opinion too, Jack. :hug: It's appreciated. Only active and interacting members can help us improve and plug loop-holes. :D

It's all good, Fangeh. :hug:


The only suggestion that comes to mind for me is that you....Let me use the shurikens as an example to help make it easier. :D Since they all have the same name and such.

Victory 1: Bronze Shuriken
Victory 2: Upgrade to Silver Shuriken
Victory 3: Upgrade to Gold Shuriken
Victory 4: Get another Bronze Shuriken (2 badges now)
Victory 5: Upgrade to Silver Shuriken
Victory 6: Upgrade to Gold Shuriken
Victory 7: Get another Bronze Shuriken (3 badges now)
Victory 8: Upgrade to Silver Shuriken
Victory 9: Upgrade to Gold Shuriken
Victory 10: Trade in them all for a Trench Knife badge. (1 badge now)

So you get a badge, upgrade it to it's Lvl 3, then get another. One at Lvl 3, you get a new Lvl 1 and start the upgrading process over. Once at 3 Lvl 3's, you trade it in for the Lvl 4. 10 is a nice round number, isn't it?

But yeah, the way it goes in selection, the pickings try to go to people who haven't been in a battle yet, which isn't always entirely possible. If we can up our game though, the battles will happen regularly as they should. Ideas are sometimes hard to come by, which is why suggestions are always welcome. :D

Trust Stacy to come in with the new idea so quickly. Haha.

I like this. It's much more simple and looks a bit easier, although it will still take quite a while to achieve the final badge. I won't complain though, I prefer it over the current system. This or anything similar, I'll support.

[WhiteFang]

^ Hm. I guess it's pretty much sorted then. I have a reformed version in mind, similar to Stacy's which will allow members to get to the mid-levels relatively easily, as compared to the current scheme. I've put it up for discussion with the Staff too, let's see what comes of it. :D

And once again, much thanks for your views (and also you thinking that I'll get more votes than you.. =P)

[WhiteFang]

Okay. So Stacy and myself had a bit of a discussion in Staff Chat (also disagreements).. and this is what I thought of. This is by no means final, but I'd love to hear suggestions and what you guys think about it, seeing that you're the ones being directly affected by it.


The reformation I have in mind is this:

As the members accumulate badges, they will progress through 7 levels, based on the criteria stated below:

Level 1: Winning 1 one-tomoe Sharingan/Bronze shuriken gets you to Level 1 and allows you have a one-tomoe Sharingan/Bronze shuriken under your username.

Level 2: Winning 1 two-tomoe Sharingan/Silver shuriken gets you two Level 2 immediately and allows you to have a two-tomoe sharingan/Silver Shuriken under your username.

Alternatively, winning another one-tomoe sharingan/bronze shuriken in addition to the Level 1 requirements gets you to Level 2 and upgrades your existing one-tomoe sharingan/Bronze shuriken to a two-tomoe sharingan/ Silver shuriken respectively.

Level 3: Winning 1 three-tomoe Sharingan/Gold shuriken gets you to Level 3 immediately and allows you to have a three-tomoe sharingan/Gold Shuriken under your username.

Alternatively, if you have won three one-tomoe sharingans/bronze shurikens, you can exchange them to get to Level 3 and upgrade your existing badge to a three-tomoe sharingan/Gold shuriken.


Level 4: Winning 1 custom badge in addition to the above gets you to Level 4 and allows you to upgrade your existing three-tomoe sharingan to a Mangekyou Sharingan of your choice OR if you have been following the Shurikens, its gonna get upgraded to Asuma's kewl trench knives, so you can choose the set you like better! ;).
Also, you can put that custom badge under your username if you so please.

Level 5: Winning 2 more custom badges in addition to the above gets you to Level 5. You can put 3 custom badges of your choice in addition to your Sharingan/Shuriken under your username. Which means, at a particular time, you can have 4 badges under your username. In addition, now, when you vote in a future TN Debater Battle, your vote will carry 2 points.

Level 6: Winning 2 custom badges in addition to the above gets you to Level 6. Getting to this Level will get you perks, like extra PM space, any custom badge of your choice and a custom user-title.

Level 7: Winning 3 custom badges in addition to the above gets you to Level 7, the final level.

^ Easier now, I think. Now, some people should be able to comfortably journey to the mid-levels.

[Jαckums]

Okay. So Stacy and myself had a bit of a discussion in Staff Chat (also disagreements).. and this is what I thought of. This is by no means final, but I'd love to hear suggestions and what you guys think about it, seeing that you're the ones being directly affected by it.

I definitely like this better than the previous. Anything along these lines is fine with me.

It still displays fair difficulty, which is good. You've got my approval.

[MinatoNamikaze]

Looks good to me i think. If anyone ever gets newhere past level 3 ill be surprised but its good to have a system in place. Nice job : )

[Nyanki]

My thoughts on the matter were that we should make the battles more number-based. So on how many wins rather than earning specific badges in an order.

Some people are going to be better at winning normal battles, while others theme ones. We all are good at different things. Not only do you have to win both to get into higher levels, but if you start out with some custom, you have no level. I don't feel that's really fair. Not to mention how custom don't mean anything until you've already upgraded your standard badge to the highest first.

So yeah, my thoughts were basically make the levels number-of-wins based. And if there's a feel that certain badges are "more difficult" to win than others and should be treated differently, then make it be point-based. And higher badges are worth more points.

Or, my final idea, just forget the level system. Just let badges upgrade and their shininess do the talking. :lol: Keep a win tally in the BDNT, but that's it.

But yeah, that's just my thoughts on it.

[Jαckums]

My thoughts on the matter were that we should make the battles more number-based. So on how many wins rather than earning specific badges in an order.

Some people are going to be better at winning normal battles, while others theme ones. We all are good at different things. Not only do you have to win both to get into higher levels, but if you start out with some custom, you have no level. I don't feel that's really fair. Not to mention how custom don't mean anything until you've already upgraded your standard badge to the highest first.

So yeah, my thoughts were basically make the levels number-of-wins based. And if there's a feel that certain badges are "more difficult" to win than others and should be treated differently, then make it be point-based. And higher badges are worth more points.

Or, my final idea, just forget the level system. Just let badges upgrade and their shininess do the talking. :lol: Keep a win tally in the BDNT, but that's it.

But yeah, that's just my thoughts on it.

Nice job, Stacy. This is how I originally thought the battles were going to work.

I find this way more fair/preferable too. Fang's version is still okay with me, although I'd rather this.

Both are very nice ideas and either is an improvement on the previous.

[Nyanki]

Yeah, it is a step up going with either idea.

I know the problem with my last suggestion though, with tossing out the levels altogether, is in the fact that only 3 badges max can fit under the display area. Which was why the levels were invented to begin with, I believe. So then people don't have to look up how many someone won or something like that.

[WhiteFang]

My thoughts on the matter were that we should make the battles more number-based. So on how many wins rather than earning specific badges in an order.

Some people are going to be better at winning normal battles, while others theme ones. We all are good at different things. Not only do you have to win both to get into higher levels, but if you start out with some custom, you have no level. I don't feel that's really fair. Not to mention how custom don't mean anything until you've already upgraded your standard badge to the highest first.
Well, I'm still pretty much opposed to the idea of making it only number based, because it takes away from the "difficulty" involved in winning certain battles. Winning a 3 way battle with a probability of 1/3 is way tougher than a one on one. Then there's themed ones in which, first, getting selected itself requires a specific trait/capability.
Basically, people winning tougher battles deserve more credit, in simple terms, imo. Which is why I made jump-up levels in my latest design. It basically equates winning a 3 way battle to winning two one on one battles. Which seems like something fair to me, though I could be wrong.


So yeah, my thoughts were basically make the levels number-of-wins based. And if there's a feel that certain badges are "more difficult" to win than others and should be treated differently, then make it be point-based. And higher badges are worth more points.
We could work on a point based system. I'm totally open to it. What do you have in mind? As I envision it at the moment, something like collecting points for different battles (with more difficult battles being worth more points) and then exchanging said points for badges? So.. it's like we have a sale of sorts? But this will only apply to regular badges, I think. Because custom badges can only be won in specific themed battles? I mean, you can't just up and "buy" say, Eric's "Biggest Asshole" badge.


Or, my final idea, just forget the level system. Just let badges upgrade and their shininess do the talking. :lol: Keep a win tally in the BDNT, but that's it.

But yeah, that's just my thoughts on it.
Nah. :p It's more fun if you have something to look forward to. Remember that the "higher" levels come with perks.


Yeah, it is a step up going with either idea.

I know the problem with my last suggestion though, with tossing out the levels altogether, is in the fact that only 3 badges max can fit under the display area. Which was why the levels were invented to begin with, I believe. So then people don't have to look up how many someone won or something like that.

Well, this is kind of another problem I have with making it win based only. New badges require new user-groups, and making it win-based will make the upgradation considerably faster. Making it win based, is just too... bland, too? Just said it for lack of a better word.

[Mattus]

Thank you to Stacy for pointing out that this belongs in the main section.

[LostLegend]

I won the debator against some other member once. Never received anything lol. (Bronze Shuriken perhaps?)

Plus, I think the battles (As seems to be the current thought) Should be number of wins based. I don't excel in getting my point across but I can stand my ground :P

[Nikushimi]

My motivation to debate here has dropped down to like...absolute zero. First of all, the battledome here isn't very active; I come back after a month or two hiatus and find threads I posted in during my last run still on the first page, with MY post as the last post. Plus, I have to put up with databook hate ("hatabook"?) and blatant defiance of canon statements. I swear to God, if I have to put up with one more person who says Tsukuyomi can't kill, I'm going to have an aneurysm. I'm only back now because I bothered to check my e-mails this month, and I got an automated message for a PM Fang sent me that links to this thread.

Plus, if you guys were smart, you'd make Samehada and Raikage's Left Hand badges. :zaru



DEY SEE ME TROLLIN', DEY HATIN'...

[X-Drake]

My motivation to debate here has dropped down to like...absolute zero. First of all, the battledome here isn't very active; I come back after a month or two hiatus and find threads I posted in during my last run still on the first page, with MY post as the last post. Plus, I have to put up with databook hate ("hatabook"?) and blatant defiance of canon statements. I swear to God, if I have to put up with one more person who says Tsukuyomi can't kill, I'm going to have an aneurysm. I'm only back now because I bothered to check my e-mails this month, and I got an automated message for a PM Fang sent me that links to this thread.

Yup...Sums me up as well...Can't be bothered to debate or even post much in the book store...>_<

[Raikage's left hand]

My motivation to debate here has dropped down to like...absolute zero. First of all, the battledome here isn't very active; I come back after a month or two hiatus and find threads I posted in during my last run still on the first page, with MY post as the last post. Plus, I have to put up with databook hate ("hatabook"?) and blatant defiance of canon statements. I swear to God, if I have to put up with one more person who says Tsukuyomi can't kill, I'm going to have an aneurysm. I'm only back now because I bothered to check my e-mails this month, and I got an automated message for a PM Fang sent me that links to this thread.

Plus, if you guys were smart, you'd make Samehada and Raikage's Left Hand badges. :zaru



DEY SEE ME TROLLIN', DEY HATIN'...

Fuck yea, badges in my image. Make sure they also have gigantic schlongs and just ooze manliness.http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo105/Jackk_15/TADA/TADA.gif

I agree with you though. Dumbshits who don't accept Databook or character statements shouldn't be allowed in the battledome.

Also, urge to troll rising...

[WhiteFang]

My motivation to debate here has dropped down to like...absolute zero. First of all, the battledome here isn't very active; I come back after a month or two hiatus and find threads I posted in during my last run still on the first page, with MY post as the last post. Plus, I have to put up with databook hate ("hatabook"?) and blatant defiance of canon statements. I swear to God, if I have to put up with one more person who says Tsukuyomi can't kill, I'm going to have an aneurysm. I'm only back now because I bothered to check my e-mails this month, and I got an automated message for a PM Fang sent me that links to this thread.

Plus, if you guys were smart, you'd make Samehada and Raikage's Left Hand badges. :zaru



DEY SEE ME TROLLIN', DEY HATIN'...

The databook is allowed now, Nikushimi, except the stats.

I'm slightly rusty so I'll go ahead and say that "Tsukuyomi can kill" is not cannon fact, it's more been implied than stated as absolute fact and people may have different perspectives of that. You can go ahead and argue that out. If of course, you produce a page from a cannon source which states in absolutes that "Tsukuyomi can kill." and the opposing party still disagrees with you; PM a mod, and we'll look into it. :)

A sword badge set is in the pipeline. We've discussed it before.
As for this.. "hand" badge-set, let me see some more support for it here in this thread and we can get that as well.

Anything else?


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Also, urge to troll rising...
Which will consequently cause my urge to infract to rise.

[Pokeaotics]

I'd love to see a reboot of this. Hopefully RPG. Jus sayin.

[Kuro Nagashi]

*knows I'm not a mod here or anything but blahh*

What exactly do you mean by 'RPG'?

[Pokeaotics]

Oh, just that the first battle would be an RPG battle. :P

[Kuro Nagashi]

Oh, the badge battles? Aren't I slow? :xd:

[Pokeaotics]

So is that a no?

[Mattus]

No, that's a "they forgot about this thread"

[WhiteFang]

So is that a no?
I read your cute little deleted message as well.

And, no.


No, that's a "they forgot about this thread"

No.

It's a "they're busy with a lot of things and will get to this, so please be patient"

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But yeah. We have been thinking of starting them up for quite a while now. Me moving the weekly battle badges alongside the awards not long ago was a step in that direction.

With that said, once these do start up again, they shall be shifted to the Awards Audi. And not just the BD and RPG, but other parts of the forum shall be integrated in the weekly battles as well. Actually, this is why sorting it is taking some time. We need to coordinate it all and want to give you the final, finished product. We've learnt from mistakes in the past and this time are doing something to ensure that the battles continue to happen in a smooth flow once they start and there aren't repeated hiatuses in between.

I hope this explains things.

[Dreamer]

So is that a no?
Things were a bit stalled with this whole integration of the awards auditorium. We wanted to get that up and running before we moved on to the weekly battles. Our plan is to add the weekly battles to that forum and the decision-making about battle order will be decided then.

I hope this along with Fang's explanation answers your question. If not feel free to PM me. I much rather that than sarcastic posts :)

[Mattus]

But yeah. We have been thinking of starting them up for quite a while now. Me moving the weekly battle badges alongside the awards not long ago was a step in that direction.

With that said, once these do start up again, they shall be shifted to the Awards Audi. And not just the BD and RPG, but other parts of the forum shall be integrated in the weekly battles as well. Actually, this is why sorting it is taking some time. We need to coordinate it all and want to give you the final, finished product. We've learnt from mistakes in the past and this time are doing something to ensure that the battles continue to happen in a smooth flow once they start and there aren't repeated hiatuses in between.


Sounds good to me, especially the last part. I look forward to seeing the finish project =)

[Pokeaotics]

Well that's all I wanted, someone to say whether they were working on it or not, not the actual details. And now I know that you are, which is good... Thanks.
And Fang, what post was that? I only deleted it to avoid a double post, I don't remember what it was. xD

[WhiteFang]

Sounds good to me, especially the last part. I look forward to seeing the finish project =)
:) I'm hopeful for that as well.


Well that's all I wanted, someone to say whether they were working on it or not, not the actual details. And now I know that you are, which is good... Thanks.
And Fang, what post was that? I only deleted it to avoid a double post, I don't remember what it was. xD
Well yes, of course. I understand the impatience. I am a bit frustrated about it, too. But some things can't be helped. irl bothers you incessantly. >_> But we are trying our best. Everyone wants to see it up and functioning.

This:

Lol. (:
Now if only Fang would return to us... :/
Well Dreamer mod's this section....

[KyubiiRage]

That would be a good idea. Atleast the Dome wont be as boring.

[Mattus]

Yeah does this place even still exist? I almost want to cuss out someone just to give Dreamer something to do.

[Dreamer]

^ :lmao:

It's being discussed man, trust me. I'm coming up with a few things as well. Some stuff should be going down that would free up some of my time so I can hopefully inject some life into our beloved BD. But once we start it's on us, debaters, to keep the BD active and fun.

[Pokeaotics]

It's been a month. Any news on this?

[Dreamer]

Patience Jet, just got on spring break now after a pretty hardcore semester at school. And there are a few things holding us up in staff-land atm. I'll be working on it this week for sure.

[Dreamer]

For those who haven't seen it yet, the weekly battle threads are up again. This week features a battle between fellow BDers Raikage's Left Hand and NaruxHina_4_Ever. So if you haven't already, head out there and drop a lil' comment.

[link] (http://www.talknaruto.com/naruto/showthread.php?21647-NaruxHina_4_Ever-vs.-Raikage-s-left-hand-Battledome)

[Dreamer]

Added the Naruto Battledome Directory as a sticky in the Naruto BD manga sub-forum. There are still a lot of battles missing (30 pages worth to be exact), but is it really necessary to dig all those up when most of them aren't even relevant anymore? I also want your input on the organization of the directory itself. I tried to make it as simple and straight to the point as possible.

Directory (http://www.talknaruto.com/naruto/showthread.php?22570-Naruto-Battledome-Directory)

[Jαckums]

Added the Naruto Battledome Directory as a sticky in the Naruto BD manga sub-forum. There are still a lot of battles missing (30 pages worth to be exact), but is it really necessary to dig all those up when most of them aren't even relevant anymore? I also want your input on the organization of the directory itself. I tried to make it as simple and straight to the point as possible.

Directory (http://www.talknaruto.com/naruto/showthread.php?22570-Naruto-Battledome-Directory)Thank you! This will be very useful.

@the bold; well, I imagined the directory would also act as an indicator thread to let us know which battle thread/scenarios have already been created so we don't make duplicates, so it sort of makes sense to include every thread in the section. I myself want to create a few new threads but don't want to search the entire section to see if they've already been made, and besides the fact that it's tedious, I don't find the search function entirely reliable. So yeah, I personally think the whole section should be done.

[Dreamer]

Alright guys, the final version of the directory is finally up. Hopefully this will keep things a bit more organized and it will be a lot easier to keep up with things happening in the BD. Let me know what you guys think and if there's anything you would want to suggest to possibly improve it :)

I would also like to thank Jet and Kuro (especially Kuro) for helping me out with this long and tedious project. Thanks a lot fellas ;]

Naruto Battledome Directory (http://www.talknaruto.com/naruto/showthread.php?22570-Naruto-Battledome-Directory&p=1134862#post1134862)

[Jαckums]

NEW DIRECTORIES

I've made a directory for the the dubbed battledome, and there will also be a directory coming up for the subbed battledome, too. You can view the dubbed directory here (http://www.talknaruto.com/naruto/showthread.php?23728-Dubbed-Battledome-Directory).