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Bushido Brown
11-24-2009, 04:29 PM
Soruce: 2ch
Credit: Nja
Verification: Confirmed




Kisame went berserk and used the Hachibi's chakra and was found by Raikage and co.
He gets hit with a Double Lariat from the brothers and is decapitated and dies. (Not sure about the decapitation but he does die)
Ao is caught by the Mizukage and pretends to be an ally at first but is found out by Mizukage right away.
She hits him in the face and brings him back to his senses.
It ends with Sai trying to tell Naruto the things that Sakura couldn't.

the kisame's body and head seem really separated and spoke the final words 'good night flying!'


the fight is settled with the 'Cross bomber' and just then his [?] body turns black and his head ejects off the body.

the final lines are as the head flies off

nitey nite.

kisame's last words

"Suiton: something or other~ VROOM! (head flies off) that's pretty...impressive....speed"

then he dies

Sound iffy to me but my sources say it confirmed and they havent failed me yet

himura~
11-24-2009, 06:00 PM
wtf---noooo!
Kisame =(

KingTW
11-24-2009, 09:10 PM
and so, after all the hype to Kisame's power and how amazingly powerful he is, he's dead. Nice job. I think that's a huge opprotunity lost to use Kisame really well in the manga. However, suppose we should've seen it coming. No Akatsuki member has survived losing their Akatsuki cloak in battle. The trend continues.

Smiley
11-25-2009, 08:26 AM
If this spoiler is true, I've officially lost all hope for this manga.

4thHokage
11-25-2009, 08:56 AM
If this spoiler is true, I've officially lost all hope for this manga.

Agreed .......Kisame better not die that way or im giving up on this manga as well

Water Lilly
11-25-2009, 12:00 PM
I highly doubt Kisame just died like that but if he did then Kishi sucks even more than I thought.

Hauclir
11-25-2009, 12:35 PM
Probably true about him dying, i cant really picture Kisame without Samehada, but this spoiler sounds stupid.

Bushido Brown
11-25-2009, 01:18 PM
Part 1

八尾までもが”暁”の手に…!?
Will even the Hachibi be captured by Akatsuki...!?

473 ブラザー
Chapter 473: Brother

鬼鮫、ビーの足を切ろうとする。
Kisame tries to cut off Bee's legs.
サブちゃん、ビーの所に向かい走る
Sabu-chan is running to where Bee is.
ビー(ここだ!)
Bee: (Over here!)
ビー振り返る
Bee turns around.
鬼鮫『!!?』
Kisame: !!?
ビー、鉛筆を鬼鮫に投げる
Bee throws a pencil at Kisame.
鬼鮫(エンピツ!!?)
Kisame: (A Pencil!!?)
投げた鉛筆は、鬼鮫の頬をかする。鉛筆は木を貫通。
The pencil cuts the side of Kisame's face (his cheeks). The pencil pierces a tree.
ビー(惜しかったな…)
Bee: (That was close...)
鬼鮫、頬から血がでてくる『これを…狙っていたんですね 確かに惜しかったですね
最初に投げつけてきたエンピツが そんな所にあったとは』
Kisame, who's face is bleeding: You were aiming at this weren't you. That was certainly a close call wasn't it. I'd forgotten that pencil you threw earlier landed over there.
ビー『…』
Bee: ...
木にいた鮫肌が動きだす 鬼鮫今度こそ~ビーに止め~
Samehada starts moving in the tree. Kisame will now stop Bee.
刀を振りおろそうとすると、手裏剣が~~ 刀折れる
Swinging the sword, a shuriken cuts and breaks the sword.
鬼鮫『!?』
Kisame: !?

雷影一行現れる
The Raikage and his escorts appear.
シー『ビー遅くなって すまない』
Shii: Sorry for the delay Bee.
鬼鮫『雷影!?なぜここが…!?』
Kisame: Raikage!? Why are you here...!?
シー『干柿鬼鮫…アンタの おかげだ あれだけでかい水の塊なら視覚で分かる
…その中に八尾とビーのチャクラが混ざってる事が感知できた』
Shii: Hoshigaki Kisame...thanks to you, we saw that massive amount of water and were able to detect the Hachibi's chakra mixed in it.
ダルイ『むやみやたらに他人のチャクラを吸い取って利用すんだもんよ
バレバレだっつーのよ』
Darui: You were reckless by sucking up other people's chakra and using it. That was daring of you.
鮫肌、ビーにまとわりつく
Samehada follows Bee.
ビー『…やっぱバレちまったな…』
Bee: ...you outdid yourself this time huh...
鬼鮫『…!』(”鮫肌”の奴 さらにチャクラを八尾に…)
Kisame: ...! (That Samehada...he likes the Hachibi's chakra after all...)
雷影『やるぞ…』
Raikage: Let's do it...
ビー『OK… ブラザー!』
Bee: Ok...brother!

ビー 雷影走り出す 鬼鮫両手を顔の前に(印?)
Bee and the Raikage dash out, Kisame's put his hands in front of his head (seals?)
ビー 雷影コラボ技『ダブル ラリアット!!』
Bee combos with Raikage: Double Lariat!!
ビーは前から、雷影は後ろからラリアット。鬼鮫を挟む感じ
鬼鮫の首が飛ぶ
Bee does the lariat from in front, Raikage in back. Kisame is in-between. Kisame gets decapitated.
鬼鮫『さすがに速すぎますね…』
Kisame: As expected, that was quick huh...

サブちゃん走る
Sabu-chan is running.
サブちゃんの前に鬼鮫の首が落ちる
Kisame's head falls in front of Sabu-chan.
サブちゃん『ヘイっホー!!』ビックリ
Sabu-chan, surprised: Ehh!!
雷影、ビーの頭掴み
Raikage grips Bee's head.
雷影『一人でチョロチョロしおって!!』
Raikage: How dare you going at it alone!!
ビー『…利き腕じゃなくても き 効く 危機だヨウ♪』
Bee: ...even without my dominant arm, it was effective in this crisis♪

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Hiro nakamura
11-25-2009, 04:25 PM
soldier down for Madara..

Jetkid
11-25-2009, 05:57 PM
*shoots self in head*
My god, what were you fucking thinking Kishi?!?!?!?!?

The one time I read a spoiler, it's this....... <.<

4thHokage
11-25-2009, 06:38 PM
What an awful chapter I mean how does Kish kill of one of the coolest Ataiski members this way AWFUL !!!!!! No back story either on Kisame on why he joined or anything either, I mean even Diedera got a back story upset about this chapter such a lame way to die, your sword betrays you come on WEAK !!!!

MinatoNamikaze
11-25-2009, 06:48 PM
Guys u do realize that whenever we doubt kishi its bc he wants us to and then he shocks us right? Well id put money of kisame not dieing so easily

Mos Deth
11-25-2009, 07:36 PM
idk...Kishi has been rushing things lately and pulling some pretty shitty strings. I mean look at the whole Pein arc. Kishi fucked that up too.

Demon_skeith
11-25-2009, 07:38 PM
if I read the spoiler text right, I don't think kisame is really dead. but I could be wrong. but one thing is for sure, the eight tails won't be captured for awhile.

himura~
11-25-2009, 08:43 PM
Part two guys =)
From MH


By on3word.

Part 2

雪降る サムライの国
Snow falls in the country of the samurai.

侍A『下はどうなった?』
Samurai A: How is it below?
侍B『オレ達以外全滅だよ』
Samurai B: Besides us, annihilated.
侍A『まだサスケの部下が二人いるそうだ… そいつらを見なかったか?』
Samurai A: We have yet to find 2 of Sasuke's subordinates I hear...you didn't seem them?
侍B『…見てないな そいつらも死んだんじゃないか? 下はもうムチャクチャだよ』
Samurai B: ...Didn't see them. They must've died yeah? There's nothing left down there.

ミフネのお付き?左目潰れてて坊主の人
『いや…雲隠れの感知能力者が その二人の生存を確認し 我々に拘束するように
頼んで去っていった』
Mifune's escort's? left eye was damaged; he's like a Buddhist priest: No...Kumo's sensor confirmed that they are alive, and left it to us to take care of as promised.
侍B『そ そうなんですか?』
Samurai B: O-oh, so that's it?
ミフネお付き、刀を出し『そこの二人…ヨロイを脱げ』
Mifune's escort unsheaths his sword: You two...remove your armor!
侍B『…』
Samurai B: ...

他の侍達も集まり出す。
Other samurai gather round.
侍B ヨロイの顔部分を外し(水月)『あらら…バレてたみたいだね』
Samurai B removes his helmet (Suigetsu): Haha...we've been given away huh.
侍C(重吾)『やはり あまりいい案ではなかったな』
Samurai C (Jugo): As thought, it wasn't such a good plan after all.

(Rest of part 2)

洋服が(クグツ)鎌に刺さってる。
The sickle is holding the puppet by it's clothes.

青『ハア ハア 助かりました…』
Ao: Ha Ha I've been saved...
水影『何があったの?』
Mizukage: What happened?
青『敵の術にかかり… 体の自由がきかなくて… 助からなければ死んでいました』
Ao: I was caught in the enemy's jutsu...I couldn't control my body and would have died had you not saved me.
青は、クグツに鎌を投げた瞬間水影が助けた模様。
In that moment Ao, as a puppet was thrown at the sickle, the Mizukage saved him.
長十朗『いや~危ないところでしたよ ホントに』
Chojuro: This place was really dangerous.
水影『自由がきかない 減術科何かの術ね…』
Mizukage: To lose the ability to control your body, this type of debilitating jutsu, it's...
青『… 心転身の術の系統です…』
Ao: ... from the same family line as the Shintenshin no jutsu.
長十朗『感知タイプの先輩でも さすげに助けが間に合うか不安でした?』
Chojuro: Even as a senior sensor type, we were worried we wouldn't make it in time.
青『心配をかけて すまない…』
Ao: I'm sorry to have worried you...
水影『… その右目… 奴らは白眼を狙ったようね』
Mizukage: ... that right eye...they were after the Byakugan.
青『あやうく潰されるところでした… すみません… この手の縄を解いてもらえませんか?』
Ao: I was almost done in...forgive me...do you think you can untie my hands now?
水影、青の手を触り『ええ… その右目の術も… 私が解いてあげますよ』
Mizukage unties Ao: Eh...I'll undo your right eye's jutsu too.
青『すみません… 助かります』
Ao: Forgive me...you really saved me.
水影、縄を解く~~
Mizukage undoes the rope.
洋服が(クグツ)鎌に刺さってるの見ながら長十朗『!  何だろ…アレ?』
Chojuro, while looking at the puppet: ! What the heck is that?

クグツ(青)(ダメだ!! そいつはまだ心転身の術を解いてはいない!!!)
The Puppet (Ao): (It's no use!! The Shintenshin no jutsu hasn't been undone yet!!
青(フー)(うまくいった… 水影が右目の術を解けるなら好都合… 白眼を潰して すぐに心転身を解ける…)
Ao (Fuu): (That went well...it's convenient that the Mizukage would remove that right eye's jutsu for me...when the Byakugan is destroyed I'll cancel the Shintenshin.
クグツ(青)(…そうだ! このチャクラ木の葉のアイツだ! 感知タイプだった奴だ!
サスケの連れてた女が感知した時 オレと同じように それを逆感知したリアクションを
していた…)
Puppet (Ao): (...That's it! This chakra is that Konoha ninja's! He's a sensor type! When he sensed that girl following Sasuke, like me, we had that same reaction.
会談のことを思い出すクグツ(青)
Ao remembers the events from the conference.
クグツ(青)(こいつも二人がここへ近づいてきてるのが分かってたのか! はなからこれを
狙ってやがったな!)
Puppet (Ao): (He was able to sense that the Mizukage and Chojuro were coming! He's been waiting for this!
水影『これでよし!』
Mizukage: Alright, here we go!
縄は結ばれたまま 青(フー)『?』
Ao (Fuu) still tied up: ?
水影『ヒラメカレイを貸して長十朗』
Mizukage: Lend me HirameKarei Chojuro.
長十朗『?』
Chojuro: ?
水影『アナタは青じゃない… 私はその右目の術を解くことはできません…
この事は青もよく知っています それに青は長十朗の前でカンタンに謝ったりしません…』
Mizukage: You aren't Ao are you...Even I can't undo the jutsu of that right eye...Ao knows this very well. And the real Ao wouldn't have apologized like that toward Chojuro.
青(フー)『…カマをかけたのか… 食えないババアだ』
Ao (Fuu): ...my cover's been blown huh...you cunning hag.

バチン
Punch

Part 3

水影、青を殴る
Mizukage hits Ao.

青倒れてる『わ…私が言ったんでは…ないてんですが…』
Ao, collapsed: W-was it something I said...
水影『あら 元にもどったのね』
Mizukage: Hm, it seems he's back to normal now.
長十朗『ヒラメカレイの方じゃなくてよかったですね』
Chojuro: Good thing she used the side of Hiramekarei.


ダンゾウ一行
Danzo's line.
フー術が解け、トルネの背で目覚める
Fuu's jutsu undone, he awakens on Torune's back.
ダンゾウ『どうだ?』
Danzo: How was it?
フー『すみません… 失敗に終わりました』
Fuu: Sorry...it ended in failure.



ナルト一向
Naruto, intently.
ナルトの前にサイ
Sai in front of Naruto.
カカシ『分身だな…』
Kakashi: It's a bunshin...
ナルト『サイ… お前何で…』
Naruto: Sai...why did you...

サイ『さっきサクラが君に言おうとして言えなかった 本当の事を言うよ』
Sai: Earlier, what Sakura was telling you. I will tell you what she could not.
ナルト『?  …本当の事?』
Naruto: ? ...is this for real?


八尾無事救出…!!そして単独行動に出たサイがナルトに告げるのは…!?
Hachi was reclaimed safely...!! And Sai, moving independently, informs Naruto...!?

終わり。サーセイ★
The End.

Water Lilly
11-26-2009, 11:30 AM
I agree with MN and also D.I.Y,I mean that Pein arc was totally pathetic :rolleyes: I don't think we've seen the last of Kisame. ^^

Ariel
11-26-2009, 03:55 PM
the chapter is out:

http://www.9panels.com/manga/naruto/#issue/473/

Bushido Brown
11-26-2009, 04:00 PM
I dont think Kisame is dead, probably will use this as a way to escape knowing he has no chance of winning agains four high level shionbis, but if he is really died im going to be pissed. This fight was suppose to blow our minds, but was worster than the Sasuke v. Itachi fight. I really want to here what Sai has to say to Naruto, and see how Seigetsu and Juugo own these foddlers. I gave the chapter a 2.5

himura~
11-26-2009, 06:10 PM
Yay! I am glad that Ao is safe! I really do want to see more of this Mist-nin group, ditto the Rainin. Poor Kisame =(...Sabu, too--I'd hate to see a head of a killer on the ground like that! Omoi (is that the darker guy with the white fro?) is so chill, I already like him.

Aww I loved Suigetsu and Juugo's cover. Yay for our dynamic duo, I can't wait to see them fight! And I do ponder what Sai is going to tell Naruto!

NaruxHina_4_Ever
11-26-2009, 06:41 PM
If next weeks one is any spoiler then it looks like i was right about how Kishi is gonna flip flop on NaruxSaku using Sai as the medium (Which IMO just doesn't make sense).

anywho I still need to wait for the chapter proper to comment (The video thing don't work well on this laptop)

Demon_skeith
11-26-2009, 07:58 PM
kisame's death seems fishy to me, but have to wait and see next weeks chapter to say for sure.

DeathAngel
11-26-2009, 09:51 PM
The chapter is out.:)
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v50/c473/

sHaoLin_ruGby
11-27-2009, 12:29 AM
KB is so Lame... he heLd out dying so sh couLd throw a freakin penciL??? are you freakin kidding me??? then out of nowhere his one handed brother joins him and he's the man again... that was totaL BS !

Kankurotto
11-27-2009, 02:00 AM
Wow.... well the end of that battle seemed weird to me. I'm not disappointed yet not satisfied either. o_O

Kisame is one weird of a character lmao. Still smiling like that in his last moments.

Mos Deth
11-27-2009, 03:53 AM
That was probably one of the wost Deaths in Naruto. Of course Deidara and Kimimaro top this for lame and pathetic deaths but this is up there.

Jackums
11-27-2009, 04:37 AM
Disappointing. :l

I don't think Kisame's dead.

DeathAngel
11-27-2009, 07:51 AM
Disappointing. :l
I'm disappointed as well. It should be an epic fight but it ended around 3-4 chapters.:(


I don't think Kisame's dead.
But I don't think Kisame can survive like Hidan after getting his head cut.

And does anyone think that Killerbee will take Samehada as his new weapon? Not a bad idea to me.:rolleyes:

taiyana_chan
11-27-2009, 08:43 AM
The dude's head was off and he was talking.
He ain't dead.

Water Lilly
11-27-2009, 01:16 PM
There's no way Kisame's dead,he wouldn't go down that easy.Hidan lost his head and he survived.Akatsuki are major freaks with bizzare powers and abilities so I'm sure Kisame's gonna reattach his head somehow.:xd:

Xinobi
11-27-2009, 02:25 PM
I can not believe it... I am speechless... I don't know whether to be disappointed or what...

Jackums
11-27-2009, 07:05 PM
@DeathAngel: Listen to the woman, bro.

The dude's head was off and he was talking.
He ain't dead.

X-Drake
11-27-2009, 07:35 PM
Loved it....Kisame was one of my favs, but he was too cocky. He got Raikaged...After sauce thats kool..

Kirabi+Raikage = HAXXED TO THE MAX

Mos Deth
11-27-2009, 08:49 PM
Loved it....Kisame was one of my favs, but he was too cocky. He got Raikaged...After sauce thats kool..

Kirabi+Raikage = HAXXED TO THE MAX

Not to be a buzz kill but Raikage is probably one of the dumbest characters out there. I mean for christ sake he purposely tanked an Amaterasu because he was impatient. The only reason why Kisame got his ass beat so badly was because his sword betrayed him and it became a 2 vs 1 match.

X-Drake
11-27-2009, 09:51 PM
Not to be a buzz kill but Raikage is probably one of the dumbest characters out there. I mean for christ sake he purposely tanked an Amaterasu because he was impatient. The only reason why Kisame got his ass beat so badly was because his sword betrayed him and it became a 2 vs 1 match.

Your not a buzz kill..Cuase your opinion is yours and I reject it :lol:

He tanked it cause he can, and he raped suace.

Kisame lost because he was up against Kirabi. Who never took him serious and was worrying about punta and sabu while fighting and not turning into hachibi.

Raikage is the man right now.

Demon_skeith
11-27-2009, 10:40 PM
Your not a buzz kill..Cuase your opinion is yours and I reject it :lol:

He tanked it cause he can, and he raped suace.

Kisame lost because he was up against Kirabi. Who never took him serious and was worrying about punta and sabu while fighting and not turning into hachibi.

Raikage is the man right now.

pretty much this, raikage won't back down from nothing which makes him a kick ass ninja.

MinatoNamikaze
11-28-2009, 12:13 AM
pretty much this, raikage won't back down from nothing which makes him a kick ass ninja.

And im pretty sure that if raikage had a chance to fight susano hed run head first into its sword and try to tank it.... Unfotunatly, thatd be the reason for the nomination of a new raikage

LostLegend
11-28-2009, 04:28 AM
(Above made me lol)

This chap.... Anyone getting the gut feeling my "prediction of the story" was COMPLETELY the opposite?

And anyone sensing another "gaara to the rescue" that has been done too much now? (The Aoi and Raikage things)

Not the best chap, closes everything, opens the Sai thing. Now Tobi's the last Akatsuki.
Not that great a way for shark to go out. He said they were too fast for him but what Jutsu was he trying to do? (Doppelganger? Looked like some water thing, same as when he attacked Gai)
And what the heck did he mean when he said "That's what you were aiming for!"
(Perhaps he cut off part of his headband and that way, the doppelgangers would have it on and the real version wouldn't or the opposite or something?)

Yeah, going back to reaching at straws.
Oh, that Sai truth may be something about Genjutsu. But it was something she couldn't tell him... Hmm... Mabye she knows about the Sasuke thing? Mabye she still loves him? Hurm.
(Not my area of expertise, the tailed beasts are)

Demon_skeith
11-28-2009, 12:12 PM
And im pretty sure that if raikage had a chance to fight susano hed run head first into its sword and try to tank it.... Unfotunatly, thatd be the reason for the nomination of a new raikage

true, but how many ninja in the naruto world would actually go at it straight on instead of backing off?

majinsharingan
11-28-2009, 04:46 PM
If you're gonna write off the only decent bad guy left, at least have him be killed by a decent good character.
I mean damn the only reason he didn't win is because his sword betrayed him.
Raikage showing up, yeah that's realistic but RAIKAGE and KILLER BEE?
He might has well have been killed off by Konohamaru except then again, that would actually mean something because it was Konohamaru.
Two new characters, two terrible new characters...just no.


Not to be a buzz kill but Raikage is probably one of the dumbest characters out there. I mean for christ sake he purposely tanked an Amaterasu because he was impatient. The only reason why Kisame got his ass beat so badly was because his sword betrayed him and it became a 2 vs 1 match.

Definitely agree with this.

NPS
11-28-2009, 07:08 PM
wow sucky chapter i cant believe kisame went out that way
i hoped he survived through some unrealistically crazy way.
amd lol danzo and team fail so badly.


Not to be a buzz kill but Raikage is probably one of the dumbest characters out there. I mean for christ sake he purposely tanked an Amaterasu because he was impatient.
but you got to admit he's pretty badass lol

Jackums
11-28-2009, 07:39 PM
true, but how many ninja in the naruto world would actually go at it straight on instead of backing off?

The stupid ones.

Demon_skeith
11-28-2009, 09:11 PM
The stupid ones.

really? I don't see anyone stupid in this pic except maybe sasuke

http://dl01.mangashare.com/manga/Naruto/463/015.jpg
chapter 463 page 16-17 (http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-463/page015.html)

majinsharingan
11-29-2009, 12:11 PM
^^Please tell me that's sarcasm.

LostLegend
11-29-2009, 01:33 PM
Oh, guys where is Zetsu's Dark Half? The light half died but what happened to the Dark?

Demon_skeith
11-29-2009, 02:01 PM
^^Please tell me that's sarcasm.

can't say it is.

majinsharingan
11-29-2009, 02:10 PM
How is Sasuke stupid...yet Raikage isn't?

X-Drake
11-29-2009, 03:04 PM
How is Sasuke stupid...yet Raikage isn't?

loool please tell me thats sarcasm...

When you see the biggest, Tallest, Fastest, amatrasu dodger, black man titled the RAIKAGE. You don't fuck with him. And when he got a problem with you, you don't fuck with him.

Sasuke fucked with him. After he liager bombed him. Dodged his amtarusu. Broke his susano'o...Beat him...Sasuke thought that shielding himself with amatrasu is gonna do anything. HELL NO.


Sasuke was stupid. Had not gaara saves suace..This manga would be over since its Naruto part 2 : sasuke.....
:D

Jetkid
11-29-2009, 04:27 PM
I refuse your reality and substitute it with my own!!

http://i45.tinypic.com/2qtzh8n.jpg

Water Lilly
11-29-2009, 04:35 PM
Drake I don't mean to be disrespectful but that Raikage argument was just plain silly or actually stupid.
What do you mean when Raikage has a problem with you you don't fuck with him?
If that was the deal then nobody would have the guts to say something to him because by your logic everyone would be afraid of him which totally isn't true.Eventhough the Raikage almost crushed him he is too reckless well he was too reckless.So yeah to me Raikage is nothing special and definitely not a badass character.
How can you say Sasuke was stupid for facing him?I'm sure Naruto and anyone else would have done the same thing if they were caught in a fight against him,they wouldn't just flee.Now if Sasuke ran away from the battle because he would be scared for his safety that would be a stupid and cowardlyact but he faced him head on.

majinsharingan
11-29-2009, 04:49 PM
Drake I don't mean to be disrespectful but that Raikage argument was just plain silly or actually stupid.
What do you mean when Raikage has a problem with you you don't fuck with him?
If that was the deal then nobody would have the guts to say something to him because by your logic everyone would be afraid of him which totally isn't true.Eventhough the Raikage almost crushed him he is too reckless well he was too reckless.So yeah to me Raikage is nothing special and definitely not a badass character.
How can you say Sasuke was stupid for facing him?I'm sure Naruto and anyone else would have done the same thing if they were caught in a fight against him,they wouldn't just flee.Now if Sasuke ran away from the battle because he would be scared for his safety that would be a stupid and cowardlyact but he faced him head on.

Lilly, of course it was a stupid argument, he either knows this and is kidding or isn't oblivious to that fact. Regardless, it's best left alone.
You are right though.
Raikage and Killer Bee are two of the most overrated characters and overall bad characters in the manga.

NejiTaker
11-29-2009, 06:34 PM
Double Lariat FTW, hahaha. I've a nagging suspicion that it's not the ultimate end of Kisame yet, though.

Demon_skeith
11-29-2009, 06:48 PM
I have to disagree with you Doctor Octogonapus, in my opinion raikage and KB are the most interesting created characters in the manga so far. Where as the raikage is a buffed up, serious, version of might guy and KB is what jinchūriki should be (minus the singing and easy going attitude).

going on from when I called sasuke stupid, sasuke wasn't very smart thinking his susano/amatrasu shield would stop the powerhouse raikage who at the time was being a avenger for KB.

majinsharingan
11-29-2009, 07:29 PM
I have to disagree with you Doctor Octogonapus, in my opinion raikage and KB are the most interesting created characters in the manga so far. Where as the raikage is a buffed up, serious, version of might guy and KB is what jinchūriki should be (minus the singing and easy going attitude).

going on from when I called sasuke stupid, sasuke wasn't very smart thinking his susano/amatrasu shield would stop the powerhouse raikage who at the time was being a avenger for KB.

Killer Bee is not unique whatsoever. The only way he could be more stereotypical is if he was on TV and not in a manga.
Raikage is just obnoxious.
They're both strong, that's fantastic however that doesn't mean they're good characters.
The second paragraph is a massive fail.
It's fire that consumes all and never stops.
Saying he was stupid was assuming that ameratsu would beat Raikage is just foolish.
We had no evidence that ameratsu could be beaten like that.

Basically, Raikage, like you said is like Gai, the only difference is he provides no humor whatsoever and overall has a much lower testosterone level so in all seriousness what's the point of having him around?

Dreamer
11-30-2009, 12:44 AM
Wow......didnt see this coming at all. How can someone die just like that :huh: Event though it was a miserable end for Kisame it was a bit refreshing to see some type of gore in the manga :D

Demon_skeith
11-30-2009, 11:08 AM
Killer Bee is not unique whatsoever. The only way he could be more stereotypical is if he was on TV and not in a manga.

he should be on tv in a few months.


Raikage is just obnoxious.

there are a lot of people in naruto that are obnoxious, you can't hate raikage for that alone.


They're both strong, that's fantastic however that doesn't mean they're good characters.

I never implied that because their strong that their great.


Saying he was stupid was assuming that ameratsu would beat Raikage is just foolish.
We had no evidence that ameratsu could be beaten like that.

and now we do have evidence that ameratsu will fail to strength that is boosted by a jutsu.


Basically, Raikage, like you said is like Gai, the only difference is he provides no humor whatsoever and overall has a much lower testosterone level so in all seriousness what's the point of having him around?

because he is a character of his own. Raikage is all about rage and quick thinking where as killer bee is cool and thinks things out.

and if your willing to ask why to have raikage around, you best be saying the same about many other characters like tenten, Shino, Choji, and Temari.

WhiteFang
11-30-2009, 11:37 AM
Chapter was kinda phail except the Mizukage bit.

I hope there's some miracle and Kisame lives to die another day, after some more show-off. Because this was quite.. unimpressive from him.

Water Lilly
11-30-2009, 12:28 PM
Lilly, of course it was a stupid argument, he either knows this and is kidding or isn't oblivious to that fact. Regardless, it's best left alone.
You are right though.
Raikage and Killer Bee are two of the most overrated characters and overall bad characters in the manga.

Yeah I know that Matt but I still couldn't resist telling Drake something back. 8)

LostLegend
11-30-2009, 01:49 PM
Oh, guys where is Zetsu's Dark Half? The light half died but what happened to the Dark?

No-one answering this makes me thing everyone blocked me in the crowd of Raikage versus Sasuke 0.o

Water Lilly
11-30-2009, 02:38 PM
No-one answering this makes me thing everyone blocked me in the crowd of Raikage versus Sasuke 0.o

I didn't even notice Zetsu died,well at least one half of him ^^;
It wouldn't surprise me if the black half would be alive and than the other side would pop out of it or something.:xd:

NaruxHina_4_Ever
11-30-2009, 03:52 PM
Yeah, going back to reaching at straws.
Oh, that Sai truth may be something about Genjutsu. But it was something she couldn't tell him... Hmm... Mabye she knows about the Sasuke thing? Mabye she still loves him? Hurm.
(Not my area of expertise, the tailed beasts are)
I think by the truth he means what Sakura is planning.
The fact she is going after Sasuke herself.
The same truth she refused to tell Naruto


Oh, guys where is Zetsu's Dark Half? The light half died but what happened to the Dark?
Well the light half had alot of clones running around and it is assuming they can "die" as and leave the dark half alive.
It wouldn't surprise me if some of Zetsu simply returned and fused back together

majinsharingan
11-30-2009, 10:28 PM
Wow......didnt see this coming at all. How can someone die just like that :huh: Event though it was a miserable end for Kisame it was a bit refreshing to see some type of gore in the manga :D

We've seen gore.
Enough gore. I want some goddamn decency! If you're gonna kill off the only good villain left, do it WELL!


he should be on tv in a few months.

I meant American TV. Not anime.


there are a lot of people in naruto that are obnoxious, you can't hate raikage for that alone.

Yes but none come close to him.


I never implied that because their strong that their great.



Your post could've been read that way my bad.


and if your willing to ask why to have raikage around, you best be saying the same about many other characters like tenten, Shino, Choji, and Temari.

Two things.
1, That part was less serious than the rest of my post.
2, Those are all minor characters. Raikage is main cast.

4thHokage
12-01-2009, 12:18 AM
Lets just all pray that Kisame did a Substitution jutsu because if he really died in that lame way Kish must be on drugs or drunk when he wrote this manga.. Kisame was just way to cool to die this way, and ONce again NO BACK STORY ON KISAME WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Raikage's left hand
12-02-2009, 07:13 PM
Killer Bee is not unique whatsoever. The only way he could be more stereotypical is if he was on TV and not in a manga.
Raikage is just obnoxious.
They're both strong, that's fantastic however that doesn't mean they're good characters.
The second paragraph is a massive fail.
It's fire that consumes all and never stops.
Saying he was stupid was assuming that ameratsu would beat Raikage is just foolish.
We had no evidence that ameratsu could be beaten like that.

Basically, Raikage, like you said is like Gai, the only difference is he provides no humor whatsoever and overall has a much lower testosterone level so in all seriousness what's the point of having him around?

>Killer bee
>not unique
>no other character like him in the manga.
>only host to straight up dominate it's beast.

Get the fuck out and take your fail with you. Raikage and Killerbee added some much needed badassery into this steamy pile of crap that was once worth reading and to top it off they're so sterotypically black it's just awesome. You probably just don't like black people. You racist.

On another note, this fight was good. No retarded blood lines. No sharingan faggotry. Just straight up punch out between two powerhouses that was short and didn't out stay it's welcome.

majinsharingan
12-02-2009, 07:17 PM
>Killer bee
>not unique
>no other character like him in the manga.
>only host to straight up dominate it's beast.

Get the fuck out and take your fail with you. Raikage and Killerbee added some much needed badassery into this steamy pile of crap that was once worth reading and to top it off they're so sterotypically black it's just awesome. You probably just don't like black people. You racist.

On another note, this fight was good. No retarded blood lines. No sharingan faggotry. Just straight up punch out between two powerhouses that was short and didn't out stay it's welcome.

I'm not even gonna bother responding to the first paragraph.

The fight itself was good. Samehada and the ending was bullshit. Idc if they are stronger and should've killed him, having the only decent villain left in the series be killed off by two bad not to mention NEW characters is just a terrible move on Kishimoto's part.

Raikage's left hand
12-02-2009, 07:30 PM
I'm not even gonna bother responding to the first paragraph.

The fight itself was good. Samehada and the ending was bullshit. Idc if they are stronger and should've killed him, having the only decent villain left in the series be killed off by two bad not to mention NEW characters is just a terrible move on Kishimoto's part.

I wouldn't respond to the first part if i was a racist either.

Are you trying to say because you hate black people Killerbee and Raikage are bad characters? because, that's simply not true. Kisame's pretty much all fan wank anyway. Being killed by a double lariat from two angry black men is the way all characters should be killed...and finally, there was only one good villain in the entire series and that was Orochimaru.