Pein vs. Madara (OFFICIAL THREAD)

[sproxy]

well Madara has the EMS that can bend space and time
Still not garunteed that he still has it from my proof above.


and time and is the strongest character in naruto
NOt proven and this is a really dense thing to say


while pein has the rinnegan and almost as strong as madara
wow you should give up in here with a comment like that.


so i don't know
Smartest thing you said in this whole post.

[Masterofdeath]

ok. seriously this thread is a bootleg version of the one I already made. Please, make your own new and original threads.

[Raikage's left hand]

ok. seriously this thread is a bootleg version of the one I already made. Please, make your own new and original threads.

This is the official thread....

[Masterofdeath]

whats the difference?

[Raikage's left hand]

whats the difference?

All others besides this one are just spam.

[sHaoLin_ruGby]

you know whats officiaL:

Pein gonna get his a** handed to him !

by naruto, not tobi/madara... etc

[Peinsagod]

if they ever fought Madara would GET OWNED because pein first has the rinnengan which we don't know much about except that you can use any ninjutsu you see (aka. the space/time jutsu)



also there are 6 peins (7 actually but the real one doesn't fight) and madara would have to fight them all and they would just get revived because he doesn't know peins secret and so can't win




plus each of peins bodies has a specific type of attack which it excels at many times the lvl of other ninja and can use there talents together well in unision and as backup, protection, and a plan thought by one would then be picked up by all of them simulteineously(sry misspell) and would be able to do it without a moments notice.

[Smiley]

[COLOR="Blue"]if they ever fought Madara would GET OWNED because pein first has the rinnenganwhich we don't know much about except that you can use any ninjutsu you see (aka. the space/time jutsu)

No. Rinengan = security camera. That's it. We don't know more than that.

Madara is Aizen. Pain is the first espada.
You get the picture.

Shazam.

[TheYellowFlash10]

if they ever fought Madara would GET OWNED because pein first has the rinnengan which we don't know much about except that you can use any ninjutsu you see (aka. the space/time jutsu)

Madara would never get owned ultil someone can damage him xD


also there are 6 peins (7 actually but the real one doesn't fight)

Proof?
Or you are only speculating?


and madara would have to fight them all and they would just get revived because he doesn't know peins secret and so can't win

There would be no problem as he was fighting 8 Konoha Ninjas with so ease that they couldn't get a hit and he was just playing with them


plus each of peins bodies has a specific type of attack which it excels at many times the lvl of other ninja and can use there talents together well in unision and as backup, protection, and a plan thought by one would then be picked up by all of them simulteineously(sry misspell) and would be able to do it without a moments notice.

Again, this isn't useful as all of their attack would be evade very easily by"Tobi"

[Masterofdeath]

It is clear Madara is the stronger, smarter, and more experienced of the two. Which means that madara wins.

[MinatoNamikaze]

How can this even be debated with knowing nothing about Madara?? We only know his time/space jutsu which we have actually never seen. So this battle is just full of everyone biased opinion

[Munboy Dracule O'Brain]

Pain Rokudou do not stand a chance against Madara. The real Pain might.

[Smiley]

Yea, I agree. Just one thing, it's Pain Rikudou. While "Roku" does mean six, there appears to be some sort of language exception when making word formations like that.

[Jαckums]

This battle is simply not debateable. We have no knowledge of Madara's abilities, besides his time/space jutsu. This battle is just theories, and opinion. A debate relies on information, knowledge and facts. Something we don't have on Madara.

[Ido]

Well, Madara is a power ninja, and your Jack, this battle is not really debatable. But, I do think Pein would actually lose, I mean, For all we know, Madara could be the last enemy that Naruto is gonna fight. Pein has no chance against Madara. Plus, even tho Pein has the Rinnegan, Madara has the Mangekyo Sharingan, this will be kinda an exciting fight to watch, on TV :p
But, Madara would win hands down.

EDIT: Plus, we don't know all of Madara's abilities, so yeah, not debatable.

[Jαckums]

You can't know that Madara will win, just by assuming he's going to be strong. That's why its not debateable. Because we don't know anything. lol. I find it funny how you said its not debateable, then said "Madara wins, hands down".

:xd: :p

[Ido]

You can't know that Madara will win, just by assuming he's going to be strong. That's why its not debateable. Because we don't know anything. lol. I find it funny how you said its not debateable, then said "Madara wins, hands down".

:xd: :p

I know, after i read it again, i figured i didn't really make sense, then got to lazy to edit it :p

Anyways, not debatable. xDD
Just one jutsu won't give us enough to see that Madara will win.
So, i guess Default?

[akumasenpai]

check it i will say that if it is a battle of current strength then pein wins because madara himself admitted that he lost a lot of his power. if he was stong enough then he wouldnt need to manipulate sasuke

[Kuro Nagashi]

Okay until i see Madara fight im going to have to give this to Pein, but if i assume some of Madara's abilitys, such as time/space ninjutsu and other high rank jutsu pein might prevail as he has that giant village destroying tech

[Masterofdeath]

How can this even be debated with knowing nothing about Madara?? We only know his time/space jutsu which we have actually never seen. So this battle is just full of everyone biased opinion

I must agree with you that this is a stupid debate to have at this moment because we can't fully determine based on hype alone (talking about Madara). We must wait to see Madara in action.

[D.I.Y Death]

Pain Rokudou do not stand a chance against Madara. The real Pain might.

I'm sorry but in hind sight this is pretty funny considering the real Pein is a cripple.

[MinatoNamikaze]

I'm sorry but in hind sight this is pretty funny considering the real Pein is a cripple.

lol ya im fairly certain konohamaru could beat teh "real" pein. :lol:

Anyway id say Madara takes this. Pein has already shown his full stregnth and its only logical to assume Madara will be more powerful caus ehe will come in later

[D.I.Y Death]

lol ya im fairly certain konohamaru could beat teh "real" pein. :lol:

Anyway id say Madara takes this. Pein has already shown his full stregnth and its only logical to assume Madara will be more powerful caus ehe will come in later

That is logical but not proven so I refuse to comment on who will win until I see Madara fight.

[MinatoNamikaze]

That is logical but not proven so I refuse to comment on who will win until I see Madara fight.

Ya thats how i feel. Its really just a guess that madara will be stronger but no proof either way so i wouldnt argue it if you decided to disagree cause it would just be a biased debate :D

[Raikage's left hand]

lol ya im fairly certain konohamaru could beat teh "real" pein. :lol:

Anyway id say Madara takes this. Pein has already shown his full stregnth and its only logical to assume Madara will be more powerful caus ehe will come in later

You do realize there are also 4 higher realms above Samsara...right..?

Just saying were Kishi to use the other realms then logically Nagato still has plenty to offer by himself.

[Nikushimi]

Madara wins. He can teleport to where Nagato is and FTL euthanize him, rendering his Rikudou bodies effectively dead.

[duckofdoom99]

Madara wins. He can teleport to where Nagato is and FTL euthanize him, rendering his Rikudou bodies effectively dead.That is quite ridiculous as we don't know how far he can teleport, but I would bet there is a limit. Also, that is completely against the spirit of the battle which is the 6 bodies against madara. Other than that we don't know what he can do so whether or not he would win is unknown and can't be determined yet.

[D.I.Y Death]

That is quite ridiculous as we don't know how far he can teleport, but I would bet there is a limit. Also, that is completely against the spirit of the battle which is the 6 bodies against madara. Other than that we don't know what he can do so whether or not he would win is unknown and can't be determined yet.

He's still technically right. Madara could assassinate every last one of them before they knew what was going on and just to add insult to injury he could do it with a nail file.

[MinatoNamikaze]

He's still technically right. Madara could assassinate every last one of them before they knew what was going on and just to add insult to injury he could do it with a nail file.

very true cause unlike the fourth he requires no seals

[Nikushimi]

That is quite ridiculous as we don't know how far he can teleport, but I would bet there is a limit. Also, that is completely against the spirit of the battle which is the 6 bodies against madara. Other than that we don't know what he can do so whether or not he would win is unknown and can't be determined yet.

Madara teleported instantly from where he was fighting the Itachi Capture Squad to where Itachi and Sasuke's battle had taken place. And when Kakashi gets to the top of a tree and observes the location from afar, we see that the distance is easily a dozen or so miles. So, yes, Madara could simply teleport to where Nagato is and kill him.

But even if he didn't do that, he could still continuously teleport while fighting the Pain Rikudou and take them all out with little difficulty. I really don't see how this is a fight, Madara can be anywhere he wants at any given time and he can't be hit by any of Pain's attacks. He even blocked a slash from Suigetsu with just his arm.

[Smiley]

Madara obviously wins. He is the Aizen to Pain's the Cero Espada.

Minato also made it obvious in his conversation with Naruto. Madara is the real leader of Akatsuki, the real threat.

[Nikushimi]

Madara obviously wins. He is the Aizen to Pain's the Cero Espada.

Shhh! Spoiler, much?

You're right, though. Minato made it clear that Madara was the one to really worry about, while Pain was just his pawn.