Zabuza and Haku vs. Kisame (OFFICIAL THREAD)

[FmAkilla]

i say zabuza and haku

[narutoshippud]

i say zabuza and haku but kisame coul win with his water shark bomb jutsu if you was to hit zabuza and haku.:).

[rhyno511]

Well I would have to say Haku and Zabuza because Haku could just use his special jutsu and just kill him using that not just graze the skin like the battle between him and Naruto and sasuke

[itachi0110]

kisame would take this one it's that simple

[Muffinman]

This is a tough question, Together Zabuza and Haku could win, mainly because Zabuza and Kisame are most likely on par except for the massive amount of chakra Kisame has more than Zabuza, but with haku Crystal Ice Mirrors might do the job, hmmmmm but still it would be an epic battle.

[9TailedBijuu]

Having in mind that we only saw 20-25% of Kisames full power when Gai and his team fought him and we heared Neji say that he probably had more chakra than Naruto at that time.. Well if he created so much water when he was at 20% he could just drown Zabuza and Haku in ocean that he created lol. And if he used those sharks of his there would be no escape for them.
To avoid Haku's crystal ice mirrors he could just stay deep beneath the water where Haku couldn't reach him quick enough to use the mirrors and just let sharks tae care of her...

[NaruxHina_4_Ever]

I would also have to go kisame as not only for the sheer power of his jutsu and fighting style but that he knows and can counter anything Zabuza does and Crystal Ice Mirrors is useless because Haku fuses the ice with Chakra which Kisame can beat by draining it using Samehadda

[itachi0110]

correct kisame has this one like i said with no problem think of him as full power compaired to what we seen this will be over quick

[Tsugaga]

Kisame and Zabuza are both one of the swordsman of the mist but Kisame is a lot more powerful. adding haku to the battle would not be that much harder for Kisame. U can't use sasuke and naruto against the ice mirrors compaired to Kisame against the ice mi4rors because kisame is more power ful than them and could get out of it. If he even got caught.

[itachi0110]

that is true pluse he has way more chakra for his water jutsus

[Kyuubi.]

i dont think either of them would win. i would have gone with kisame but... im no sure ^^

[itachi0110]

what how r u not sure

[ghostrider]

i say zabuza and haku but kisame could win with his water shark bomb jutsu if you was to hit zabuza and haku.:).

but kisame is useless on the water because zabuza can use his water prison jutsu and haku's crystal ice m:haku: :) irrors

[darkninjaIII]

i say zabuza and haku. but without haku zabuza is dead meat.

[Tsugaga]

Kisame would win easily. There is no argument here. There is no way that Zabuza would get his water prison jutsu on Kisame. The only reason why he got it on Kakashi is because Zabuza made the water really dense so it was hard for him to move.

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

Im going with Haku and Zabuza zabuza and Kakashi on the same level
and kakashi can be Kisame so zabuza and Haku hands down

[Tsugaga]

u can't involve Kakashi. Haku and Zabuza is no match for Kakashi. It only took a while for kakashi to beat them because he had a plan and it took him a while to do everything. Kisame wins.

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

u can't involve Kakashi. Haku and Zabuza is no match for Kakashi. It only took a while for kakashi to beat them because he had a plan and it took him a while to do everything. Kisame wins.

If you talking about one on one Kakashi would have lost to Zabuza but he had that summoning

[Super Luigi]

umm Zabuza and haku

[itachi0110]

If you talking about one on one Kakashi would have lost to Zabuza but he had that summoning

wow this is one of the most hilarious posts i have ever read come on now it's a summoning it's a move everyone has different jutsus and he won also kisame would beat both of them so fast and if u would like for me to explain i will

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

Zabuza and Haku still no matter what know one says my opinion

[itachi0110]

ok why don't u explain

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

Its gonna be a pretty good fight between Kisame and Zabuza
and the added help from Haku would be over kill

[itachi0110]

i'm gettin off topic real quick ok so could those two beat the 2 hokage

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

Yep

[itachi0110]

wow deff not why don't u think things thro

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

I do and seeing that Sharingan is the only thing that was able to see through
Haku's move thats enough for me to go on

[itachi0110]

ok but one shark bomb will destroy it so now wut

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

he wont even get the chance to and zabuza can take care of the shark bomb

[itachi0110]

ok explain man u r just sayin dumb s*** explain how is he goin ta be in the ice mirrors 2

[naruke]

kisame would take this one it's that simple

PLEASE Zabuza and haku would beat kisame

[ghostrider]

whoa

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

Yeah i know I'm saying dumb stuff *sarcasm*
You cant just say Kisame cuz he's akatsuki .thats whats most of you are doing
Kisame doesnt stand a chance against Zabuza and Haku it took
it took naruto to use nine tailed chakra just to beat haku and he still didnt kill him. Kakashi did when haku jumped in the way of chidori.

[Akimichi]

I say that Zabuza and haku would win. Not only is it two on one, zabuza and haku are two of the strongest ninja i know.

[itachi0110]

ok listen naruto just used the 9tf power a lil bit ok just that destroyed the mirrors ok kisame was wut 30% when he fought gai and his team think of 100% wut he could do he would kill both of them in minutes like i said stupid stuff is that enough prof

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

ok listen naruto just used the 9tf power a lil bit ok just that destroyed the mirrors ok kisame was wut 30% when he fought gai and his team think of 100% wut he could do he would kill both of them in minutes like i said stupid stuff is that enough prof

You got to look at the BIG picture Zabuza and Kisame are gonna be tick for tack because they were teammates they are gonna know each others strengths and
weaknesses. Knowing that Haku is just extra help which makes it easier for Zabuza and Haku.

[itachi0110]

ok but kisame has gotten way better u gotta kno this just cuz they were teamates doesn't mean anything now wut if kisame has no weaknesses and anothe kisames moves are way better as is he look back at that fight everything zabuza did kisame can do and then some more he is just to good if anything haku is just gonna get in the way

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

ok but kisame has gotten way better u gotta kno this just cuz they were teamates doesn't mean anything now wut if kisame has no weaknesses and anothe kisames moves are way better as is he look back at that fight everything zabuza did kisame can do and then some more he is just to good if anything haku is just gonna get in the way

Nope and everyone has a weakness Haku is gonna be useful
I have proved my point

[itachi0110]

actually not everyone and no u haven't yur so wrong man

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

actually not everyone and no u haven't yur so wrong man

uhhuh
everyone has a weakness
and I did prove how they would win

[itachi0110]

no everyone doesn't and no u haven't yur so wrong

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

Ok whatever

Name one person that doesn't have a weakness

[itachi0110]

idk no but not everyone has one prove it

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

idk no but not everyone has one prove it

Everyone has a weakness
name one person that doesn't,after you prove that to me my fact stands.

[itachi0110]

nope u

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

nope u

Okay then everyone has a weakness
and it just so happen that Zabuza and Kisames weakness is both of them knowing each other techniques. We really don't even know all of Zabuza techniques or Kisames. He have to infer that they know each other techniques because they were former teammates. Name a teammate that doesn't know his partner.

[itachi0110]

hang on like i said that was many years ago he could of learned way more techs ok look at the Jiraiya and pain who won and ok wut was the 4 3 2 1 weakness

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

hang on like i said that was many years ago he could of learned way more techs ok look at the Jiraiya and pain who won and ok wut was the 4 3 2 1 weakness

Exactly you have to infer that he know they're technique and they broke up not too long ago. So they still have an idea
I agree that Kisame would kill Zabuza one on one,but he would be wounded bad
but with Haku,Kisame would be dead. Zabuza and Haku would be wounded badly like need medical attention right away before they die.
Jaraiya was out numbered that was his weakness
all the peins can die watch someones gonna go kill him now
i dont read manga but I hear about it and lets leave that subject alone

[itachi0110]

ok but kisame will win look at it like this haku died by kakashi zabuza died by a bunch of men kisame took on lee ten ten neji and look and GAI with 30% wut do u think he would do to zabuza and haku at 100% let me give u a hint he would demolish them

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

ok but kisame will win look at it like this haku died by kakashi zabuza died by a bunch of men kisame took on lee ten ten neji and look and GAI with 30% wut do u think he would do to zabuza and haku at 100% let me give u a hint he would demolish them

Zabuza didnt care if he got hit

[itachi0110]

because he couldn't do anything and why was that

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

because he couldn't do anything and why was that

he could he just wanted to be with Haku

[itachi0110]

ok his arms were screwed

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

I will debate this later i don't feel like it anymore

[itachi0110]

lol that's right i won

[SAM#1]

Well if you look at it,

Zabuza and Kakashi were about equal

Kakashi and guy are fairly equal

guy could barely beat a 30% Kisame,

so if (roughly) guy = kakashi = zabuza that means Zabuza would get destroyed by Kisame.

and Haku was say a bit stronger than Zabuza, but haku would need to be waaaay stronger for the two of them to beat Kisame because judging by my 'maths' two Zabuza's wouldn't beat Kisame, hell even 3 would have trouble if you see that guy, who is similar could barely beat a 30 % Kisame.


this isn't my actual opinion though, just an idea.

I think that Zabuza and haku would win because they know Kisame, plus even though Guy could only beat a 30% Kisame, that doesn't actually say that much because some styles suit other styles, for instance, guy and kakashi are about equal, yet I think Kakashi would have a WAAAY better chance of beating Kisame than Guy.

On the other hand, the creator said Kisame will be here till the end so maybe he has powers that we haven't seen yet? We need to see Kisame show his true powers before we say anything.

It would be interesting to know if Zabuza was strong enough to be in the akatzuki though.

I wish Zabuza was still alive though, if the just said he was too injured to continue instead of killing him there could have been some good twists with him and kisame.

[Tsugaga]

Kisame wins. who disagrees?

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

Kisame wins. who disagrees?

I disagree
I kinda proved my point earlier

[SAM#1]

the problem is that we haven'e really seen Kisame at full power, or enough of Zabuza or Haku to be 100% sure.

[Tsugaga]

Zabuza and Haku were at full power. and Kakashi is way stronger than haku and Zabuza. Kakashi easily beat Zabuza and sasuke was able to see Haku a little so I am sure that Kakashi could see haku easily and all it took was a little Kyuubi chakra and a punch to the face and Haku was done. with this known Kisame wouldn't break a sweat.

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

Zabuza and Haku were at full power. and Kakashi is way stronger than haku and Zabuza. Kakashi easily beat Zabuza and sasuke was able to see Haku a little so I am sure that Kakashi could see haku easily and all it took was a little Kyuubi chakra and a punch to the face and Haku was done. with this known Kisame wouldn't break a sweat.

Yeah but kisame doesnt have kyuubi or sharingan
so that statement you just said doesnt even matter

[SAM#1]

plus if you remember Zabuza actually beat Kakashi first when he trapped him in that thing (i can't remembr what it was). Kakashi even said 'its over run away' to naruto, saske etc because he knew he was defeated.

the Kakashi of right now would have done better, but Zabuza would have improved aswell.

no doubt Kisame improved over the 3 years, which Zabuza would have also done if he had lived.

actually, did we actually see Zabuza die? I remember he laid down nezt to Haku, but maybe he survived?

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

plus if you remember Zabuza actually beat Kakashi first when he trapped him in that thing (i can't remembr what it was). Kakashi even said 'its over run away' to naruto, saske etc because he knew he was defeated.

the Kakashi of right now would have done better, but Zabuza would have improved aswell.

no doubt Kisame improved over the 3 years, which Zabuza would have also done if he had lived.

actually, did we actually see Zabuza die? I remember he laid down nezt to Haku, but maybe he survived?

he died and your right Zabuza did beat Kakashi,but he got saved when saske or naruto threw a kunai at the water

[itachi0110]

ok first u never proved yur point u were wrong ok think about it i kno yur not really stupid so fer once in yur life think naruto had i tiny bit of chakra and kisame is more than 20x powerful than wut naruto's chakra was and think about it kisame at 30% he was really good all that stuff he was doin think of 70% more it's over i proved my point mirrors won't work and it didn't take alot to beeat either one zabuza or haku one shark and it's over

[Smiley]

plus if you remember Zabuza actually beat Kakashi first when he trapped him in that thing (i can't remembr what it was). Kakashi even said 'its over run away' to naruto, saske etc because he knew he was defeated.

the Kakashi of right now would have done better, but Zabuza would have improved aswell.

no doubt Kisame improved over the 3 years, which Zabuza would have also done if he had lived.

actually, did we actually see Zabuza die? I remember he laid down nezt to Haku, but maybe he survived?




Zabuza did not beat Kakashi.

That doesn't matter all, he died and has not improved. He's on the same level he was back then.


all it took was a little Kyuubi chakra and a punch to the face and Haku was done.

That didn't finish Haku, he was actually in a pretty good shape when Naruto punched him, but decided to quit hence he let his master down.

I would say: Haku and Zabuza.
First thing's first, Kisame can't get out of that mirror jutsu thing.

[SAM#1]

Zabuza did not beat Kakashi.

That doesn't matter all, he died and has not improved. He's on the same level he was back then.



That didn't finish Haku, he was actually in a pretty good shape when Naruto punched him, but decided to quit hence he let his master down.

I would say: Haku and Zabuza.
First thing's first, Kisame can't get out of that mirror jutsu thing.

No what i mean there was that we saw Kisame's power (30%) 3 years after we saw Zabuza's so in that 3 year span he could have improved dramatically, so theoretically Zabuza could have improved a similar amount. Its all a mute point though i know as zabuza is dead.

But technically Zabuza did beat Kakashi. Yes kakashi beat him twice afterwards, but if it wasn't for naruto he never would have had the chance as zabuza could have killed him.

The kakashi of today would have beaten the Zabuza of back then though.

[Smiley]

But technically Zabuza did beat Kakashi. Yes kakashi beat him twice afterwards, but if it wasn't for naruto he never would have had the chance as zabuza could have killed him.

Oh. So you mean the first time they fought.. Well.. Umm.. I forgot the details a bit but I know KAkashi had to protect that old guy and his team so he had more in mind than just killing Zabuza.

That, by the way has nothing to do with the topic. XD

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

Oh. So you mean the first time they fought.. Well.. Umm.. I forgot the details a bit but I know KAkashi had to protect that old guy and his team so he had more in mind than just killing Zabuza.

That, by the way has nothing to do with the topic. XD

He head naruto,sasuke,and Sakura protecting the old man
Zabuza could have killed Kakashi with in minutes but it got interupted

[Smiley]

Yeah, right. Same like he kicked his ass on the bridge. He sure showed him there.

[itachi0110]

ok listen kisame can get out of the mirrors in seconds listen to wut i'm sayin a lil bit of chakra from the ntf destroyed the mirrors ok kisame is way stronger than that lil bit of chakra listen and stop repeatin yur selves just listen fer once ok kisame gets put in mirrors gets out in seconds kills haku in seconds all thats left is abuza kisame will kill him

[Smiley]

kisame is way stronger than that lil bit of chakra listen and stop repeatin yur selves

Wow. Did you even read what we were discussing?
The last couple of posts weren't about Kisame at all.

And yes, he would probably be able to break the mirrors.
That yet, doesn't mean he won.

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

my point is that Haku got hit while naruto was in his NT state and still got up
and acted liike nonthing happened

[itachi0110]

ok well guess wut idc cuz the thread is kisame vs. zabuza and haku so stay on topic and i didn't say once he gets out of he mirrors he won cuz even if he gets in it it's pointless cuz he's out in seconds and he will win this one think it thro

[Smiley]

my point is that Haku got hit while naruto was in his NT state and still got up
and acted liike nonthing happened

That's what I said too.
I was arguing against that Zabuza would easily kill Kakashi if the fight wasn't interrupted. If I remember well, fight was interrupted by Haku who pretended to have killed Zabuza in order to save him.


i didn't say once he gets out of he mirrors he won

No, but you said that once he gets out, he kills both of his opponents and he wins. Theoretically, it is the same thing. ^.^
And please, Itachi1010 put some dots and commas there, I'm usually having difficulties to understand what you meant to say :/

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

That's what I said too.
I was arguing against that Zabuza would easily kill Kakashi if the fight wasn't interrupted. If I remember well, fight was interrupted by Haku who pretended to have killed Zabuza in order to save him.

not that fight,I'm talking about the second one when it was one on one.

No, but you said that once he gets out, he kills both of his opponents and he wins. Theoretically, it is the same thing. ^.^
And please, Itachi1010 put some dots and commas there, I'm usually having difficulties to understand what you meant to say :/

not that fight,I'm talking about the second one when it was one on one

[itachi0110]

ok but still he wins this one............................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ......

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

What ever thats your opinion

[itachi0110]

ok and u have yurs and i'm just tryin to prove my point u kno the same thing yur doin

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

ok and u have yurs and i'm just tryin to prove my point u kno the same thing yur doin

I know,but I proved mine already

[itachi0110]

ok u didn't prove anything it's wrong

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

ok u didn't prove anything it's wrong

I did and there were like 3 other ppl that disagreed with u too
so are we all wrong?

Maybe 2 other i dunno

[itachi0110]

ok please just think about it, and it doesn't matter if it's 3 on 1 i'm still right so to answer yur ? yes yur wrong

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

ok please just think about it, and it doesn't matter if it's 3 on 1 i'm still right so to answer yur ? yes yur wrong

Whatever dude...You think you are,but im just gonna let you think
we dont want an arguement

[itachi0110]

lol then why u on talknaruto lol wrong website if u don't want that

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

lol then why u on talknaruto lol wrong website if u don't want that

no last time we got banned and we don't want that again

[itachi0110]

lol i kno good point but i don't swear on this site anymore so i don't care if i argue with someone

[Smiley]

not that fight,I'm talking about the second one when it was one on one

If you're referring to the bridge fight, then I don't know what you're talking about. After Naruto had arrived he rushed into Haku's mirrors and started fighting him along with Sasuke. He didn't at all take part in Zabuza/Kakashi fight.

And about the topic fight.. I don't have an opinion.. yet.

[itachi0110]

i agree kakashi would of died

[Tsugaga]

Kakashi could have gotten out of the water prison jutsu if he wanted to. He later told team seven that he acted as if he was trapped so they would work together. And after Haku got punched by Naruto it took him about three minutes to get up. Kisame would be able to see Haku way better than Sasuke could so Haku's speed won't beat Kisame. And it doesn't matter if Kisame doesn't have Kyuubi chakra, what I am saying is what Naruto used is nothing compared to what Kisame has. Also Kisame and Zabuza are both Mist sword demons but Kisame is about 10x Zabuza's power. And Kisame is also the best and most powerful water jutsu user alive that I know of.

[itachi0110]

true and kisame has just as much chakra as 9tf correct me if i'm wrong

[Smiley]

You're wrong.
-.-

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

You're wrong.
-.-

agreed

[hyuga_fan]

kisame would pwn zabuza and haku
this is all u do
send ur sharks after haku(the gender confused)
and shred the flesh right off of zabuza like thanksgiving turkey

[Teh Bomb Bijuu]

kisame would pwn zabuza and haku
this is all u do
send ur sharks after haku(the gender confused)
and shred the flesh right off of zabuza like thanksgiving turkey

Its not gonna happen like that

[itachi0110]

yes it would

[WhiteFang]

Kisame could actually destroy Zabuza and Haku. He's a master of water techs. and the Samehada is superior to Zabuza's huge katana.

[itachi0110]

thank u at least someone is smart enough to kno

[Mattus]

You're wrong.
-.-

No actually he's correct.
Kisame has either a little more or a little less chakra than the 9-tails.

[Smiley]

As far as I know Kisame has about chakra as 3 or 4 tailed Kyuubi at his maximum.
When he confronted team Gai at his 30% Neji said he had about as much chakra as Naruto did on the chuunin exams, and Naruto was then at about 10% Kyuubi's power hence he didn't release even one tail.
Which makes Kisame's 100% equal to Kyuubi's 30% or 40% which is about 3 or four released tails.

[hyuga_fan]

thats just too much thinking involved in that...equation

[itachi0110]

ok but that was only 30%

[hyuga_fan]

u totally took what smiley said out of context...

[itachi0110]

what are u talking about i have been sayin that sriously go back to my previous posts and u will see u really don't kno what your talking about, stop tryin to act cool and just debate

[hyuga_fan]

wat do u think that i am doing

[itachi0110]

ok sayin "u totally took what smiley said out of context..." is wrong i have been saying that

[Smiley]

First, don't chat here.
Second, Hyuuga fan is right.
You missed the point of my post.

[hyuga_fan]

she was saying that kisame's chakra amount equals that of a 3 or 4 tailed kyuubi
but ur saying that kisame is only 30%
that means ur saying what she said over again

[Smiley]

she was saying that kisame's chakra amount equals that of a 3 or 4 tailed kyuubi

It's he ^^

[hyuga_fan]

It's he ^^

sorry i always mix that up with ppl

i did it to majin because a little while ago he had lots of girls as his sigs and avatars so i just assumed...
it should be mandatory for ur genders to be posted
i am sorry again

[itachi0110]

ok and all i was saying is that was said when he was at 30%

[Smiley]

.. And you haven't got the point yet.
Re-read my post.

[hyuga_fan]

lol

[Tsugaga]

Kisame can't have more chakra than the NTF cause the NTF has no limit to it's chakra. I know Kisame has an extremely large amount of chakra but does he have unlimited chakra?

[hyuga_fan]

no his chakra is not limited but it is quite large

the kyuubi may have unlimited chakra because it is a physical form of chakra but smiley was saying the kyuubi inside of naruto not the kyuubi itself

there is a difference

kisame is equal to naruto going 3 or 4 tails

[Tsugaga]

Oh. so Kisame wins. There is no way he wouldn't.

[hyuga_fan]

see how could i am

i can sway even the most stubborn of ppl(not u just a bold statement that means that IM GOOD) lol

[itachi0110]

ok kisame wins no matter wut

[Tsugaga]

Theres no way he wouldn't.

[itachi0110]

i kno i have given so much info but people just keep on goin with the same thing over and over

[Tsugaga]

I know wut yur sayin. I don't know why.

[Peinsagod]

Zabuza and Haku

[itachi0110]

that's the thing they won't i aleady proved that

[Peinsagod]

lol im just reviving old arguements

[itachi0110]

ok but i told u why they won't win so u tell me how they will

[Peinsagod]

yes kisame has a lot of chakra but the second haku catches him in ice prison he could kill him instantly he wont be as lenient as he was to naruto and sauske plus it took all of narutos strength and the 1t kyuubi cloak just to break the ice so that would be hard as hell also zabuza has to be around his strength becuse they are both swordsman of the mistso even if he was somehow strong enough to break out of the ice mirrors he would have to contend with a high lvl shinobi and a swordsman of the mist and they all use water so they all would know at least a few of the others abilities

[itachi0110]

ok there was no first tail it was just the chakra and kisame is more powerful than up to one tail, one shark bomb jutsu and the mirrors are over

[Peinsagod]

what how could he do that the ice mirrors are crazy strong plus the how is he stronger than a 1t naruto and you didnt even answer the part where he will have to fight 2 ppl almost as powerful as he is

[itachi0110]

um not even close to his power, look the only time naruto used one tail is against sasue correct me if i'm wrong, and kisame can beat itachi just look at this
itachi> haku & zabuza
kisame> itachi
which means
kisame> zabuza & haku
correct yes it is

[kunai 44]

Kisame is a hokage level ninja trained to hunt bijuu,Zabuza and Haku couldn't even beat Naruto,Kakashi,and,Sasuke.Kisame wound win hands down.

[Flaming_Prince]

I think it would be a close battle, but I think Kisame would eventually win.

[itachi0110]

it won't be a close battle kisame wins in a matter of mins

[Peinsagod]

um not even close to his power, look the only time naruto used one tail is against sasue correct me if i'm wrong, and kisame can beat itachi just look at this
itachi> haku & zabuza
kisame> itachi
which means
kisame> zabuza & haku
correct yes it is

Kisame is not stronger than Itachi he said it himself when they were staring at Jiraya kisame said "maybe you could go toe to toe with him but i dont think i could." see so kisame is not as strong therefore what you just said was an opinion not based on fact

[itachi0110]

Kisame is not stronger than Itachi he said it himself when they were staring at Jiraya kisame said "maybe you could go toe to toe with him but i dont think i could." see so kisame is not as strong therefore what you just said was an opinion not based on fact



that was then it's three years later and if u go back itachi says that kisame can beat itachi for all the times he has been by his side he knos all itachis weaknesses and strengths, and if u haven't forgot itachi had gotten very ill and weak.

[FmAkilla]

that was then it's three years later and if u go back itachi says that kisame can beat itachi for all the times he has been by his side he knos all itachis weaknesses and strengths, and if u haven't forgot itachi had gotten very ill and weak.

kisame cant beat Itachi

[itachi0110]

yes he can but this is for another thread.

[SAM#1]

A 30% Kisame nearly beat Gai, Neji, Tentne and Lee all on his own so I think Kisame would destroy Haku and Zabuza.

[Arashi Fuma]

Well:

Kisame was beat by 8 gates Gai(post time skip).
Zabuza was beat by Kakashi
Haku was beat by Demon Naruto who is most likeley on par with kakashi. mabeye stronger.

Pre time skip: kakashi>= gai>Zabuza>= haku
Post time skip and pre time skip: gai(post)>>>Kakashi(pre)>= gai(pre)>zabuza>= haku
fill it all in:


Gai(8 gates post)>>>>Kisame>>>Gai(nun kucks post)>Gai(post)>>>Kakashi(pre)>= Gai(pre)>Zabuza>= Haku

So together, Haku and Zabuza could only beat mabeye Gai(post no nun kucks)

So Kisame takes this.

[Smiley]

Kisame was beat by 8 gates Gai(post time skip).

Nope. 30% shoten Kisame was beaten by six-gated Gai.

[Arashi Fuma]

Nope. 30% shoten Kisame was beaten by six-gated Gai.

Thank you for that. Kisame 100% owns them in a blink.

[Cliche]

Is this kisame in shippuden? If so it doesn't make much sense...zabuza and haku could have learned a variety of new techniques in 3 years time. Anyways, if its before the time-skip, then I actually think Kisame, if its after..not sure

[J3T]

okay lets see zabuza has a huge sword that can cut through anything haku can use crystal ice mirrors that can only be broken with superhuman strength and is amazingly quick and kisame's sword can absorb chakra and cannot break the crystal ice mirrors and will DIE!!!!!!!!
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[TOTCD]

Zabuza would win they are no match for him.

[Teikox7]

LOL! Kisame has this one in the bag easily. Yes, Zabuza and Haku is badass...but compared to Kisame they are nothing.

[D-Kaiser]

Zabuza and Haku outnumber kisame 2 to 1. Kisame is simply outmatched, since Zabuza has another special sword, which regenerates as it draws blood.